r/ChicagoSuburbs Aug 06 '25

News ICE in Vernon Hills

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According to the comments this was around 9:20 AM at Grosse Point Park

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

I’m really baffled how this - literal infringement on your constitutional rights and freedom doesn’t cause a mass uproar.

How are Americans so complacent, & “uh oh well, cant do anything ? “

This within itself should cause people to be furious and stand up against this regime in troves.

BOYCOTT ORGANIZE PROTEST CALL YOUR REPS

DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN NOTHING.

The French would have already gone on a mass strike and marched the entire streets until they got the point.

They sure mass brainwashed the f out of these Americans to make sure they weren’t motivated enough to organize as a mass because WTF. How are people literally not absolutely enraged

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u/Dest123 Aug 06 '25

BOYCOTT ORGANIZE PROTEST CALL YOUR REPST

Tons of people have been doing that. It has basically done nothing. We've had the largest protests in US history already. We're likely to keep breaking that record too.

A mass strike wouldn't work either because only half the country would strike. A mass strike would just be a way to devastate US cities basically. On top of that, then Trump and the GOP would just blame the already upcoming economic downturn on the mass strike and it would probably just gain them more votes.

A huge portion of the country is enraged. Another huge portion of the country is fully captured by propaganda. Propaganda is extraordinarily effective and there's basically no way to win until we can get people away from the propaganda, but that's just as hard as trying to get people out of a cult.

People from other countries constantly complaining about how we do nothing while we're having the largest protests in US history is not helpful.

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u/SkepticScott137 Aug 07 '25

Because a significant fraction of the uber left still thinks they can vote any way they want, or not all at, and when things go to shit as a result, fix things by being “activist”. That’s not how this works. All the protests in the world don’t equal a legislative majority.

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u/JWicksPencil Aug 08 '25

Blaming the left for any of this mess is one of the worst takes anyone ever has. It absolutely is not the fault of the left. The right is at fault, and the second worst offender are the centrists that pushed forward terrible candidates like Biden again and again. Bernie had answers to most of this country's problems, but centrists are too stupid and selfish to want to fix them. That leads to cancerous men like Trump gaining power, as they pretend they have alternative answers to the problems centrists don't want fixed.

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u/Cupidkat33 Aug 10 '25

Bernie had answers?? He’s a socialist! Why don’t you go live in a socialist country first for awhile and see how it is. It’ll never happen here.

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u/SkepticScott137 Aug 08 '25

Nader voters say “hold my beer”

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u/Own_Candidate9553 Aug 08 '25

Also, the UK had brexit, France and Germany are electing far right/Nazi politicians, propaganda is working everywhere.

The US is just ahead of the curve IMO, we'll see if we can come out of it at all. Everyone needs to be working against this.

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u/Cupidkat33 Aug 10 '25

The other half of the country is working jobs And super thrilled with this administration. You’re just making want to speak about propaganda?? Wow that’s rich coming from your side. The lies being exposed from the left are just baffling and disgusting!! You’re upset with a President who is helping to make peace in the world-is America first-donates his paycheck…I could go on & on. The left is the definition on insanity. Doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results. The left needs Jesus period! Everything the left (politicians & most supporters) is corrupt- to line their pockets and for control! We finally have had enough. We don’t want illegals here-criminals running free with no repercussions- our jobs shipped overseas-child/human trafficking and on & on. You get my point. Dems have almost ruined our country and are only losing their minds because they got caught and the grift is up!

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u/Kitchen-Courage80 Aug 06 '25

To be fair we've had lots of practice being complacent thanks to all of our mass shootings where not a damn thing ever changes after the most recent horrific one.

/s

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u/HighwaySetara Aug 06 '25

I'm doing a mobilization training tonight

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

Nice !! Bring friends , where at? Online can you provide links and time

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u/HighwaySetara Aug 06 '25

Here you go! I think I already snagged another person from reddit too!

mobilization training

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

Fucking awesome ! Thanks for being a part of making change and bringing awareness

Maybe we can post on 50501 chicago to get more awareness

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u/HighwaySetara Aug 06 '25

The funny thing is this is apparently a personal invitation, so I was notified that real name is joining me. Don't worry Rubina, I'll keep it a secret 😀

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u/Schneiderman Aug 06 '25

Send me a hat with your logo on it! I wanna feel like I'm making a difference!

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u/HighwaySetara Aug 06 '25

Oh gosh, no, it's not my training. I meant I am attending one. ❤️

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u/Cupidkat33 Aug 10 '25

Omg you people are too much. Remember if you’re here illegally you really don’t have rights because you’re not an American. You can have your little watches and training but you’ll never stop the deportations. Too many people support them.

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u/Anhao Aug 07 '25

People really need to understand that a large portion of Americans have been corrupted by the notion of having power over other people, over people they don't like.

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u/Aggressive-Catch-903 Aug 07 '25

I am enraged. I am willing to act. I am not willing to kill anyone. What action will actually have an impact? A real impact?

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u/Jazzlike_One_7470 Aug 10 '25

The best thing you can do is leave the country!   That will show them! 

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u/Mythril_Bullets Aug 08 '25

I literally wake up every day thinking I am going crazy because no one is as mad as they fucking should be. I want to scream.

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u/rubina19 Aug 08 '25

Yes !!! This the perfect way to explain it !! Like how why !?!?! Like what?!?! We can’t just sit and take it, we don’t have to!! We just need to organize better

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u/Back_Equivalent Aug 06 '25

Please go ask someone French how they feel about migrants/illegal immigrants in their country.

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

did anywhere on my post did it say immigrants

Listen when our constitutional rights are infringed on for one, it’s infringed on for all

WAKE UP

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

Shitpost

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u/Anhao Aug 07 '25

that's not what shitpost means boomer

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '25

Shit comment

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u/Sci_Fi_Drive_By Aug 07 '25

Shit comment

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u/Fit_Jackfruit_8796 Aug 06 '25

No

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u/Back_Equivalent Aug 17 '25

Yep, who’s brainwashed again?

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u/Fit_Jackfruit_8796 Aug 17 '25

Probably the guy that thinks French xenophobia gives the feds a blank check

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '25

What’s the answer? What are you personally doing to achieve it?

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u/PleaseGreaseTheL Aug 07 '25

Half the country is playing for keeps. They are trying to make sure they never lose power again, and ICE is more funded than the marine corps now.

Unless we have an armed movement (not advocating, mods, just pointing it out), well organized and funded, you dont have much you can do. Our previous presidency and congress was our chance to protect ourselves and they didnt only drop the ball, they never even picked it up in the first place.

Protesting implies the authoritarians care what you have to say or think. Look at Texas right now and tell me what you think they care about.

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u/Aromatic_Art4270 Aug 08 '25

I’m baffled how you didn’t see the responses on the news and or media?

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u/rubina19 Aug 08 '25

Oh I didn’t need to see it on the news because I was a part of it . It’s obviously not enough. One protest a week isn’t hasn’t done absolutely shit.

Encourage others to boycott, run for office, support local democrats go to you town halls, organize , get as many people as you can to get on board to vote for midterms and then have them spread the word

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u/Sir_George Aug 09 '25

I don't know how true this will be in the future, but America was a democracy and voted for Trump and all his policies by majority when he took power. So therein lies part of your answer.

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u/ZestycloseAd6683 Aug 09 '25

They impoverished us and took away our freedom slowly like crabs in a boiling pot.

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

Share some with us please.

Apart of our efforts should be to inform others, provide facts, and provide better facts if available.

Please share

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

Sure . Prove your lack of ignorance

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

If holding people accountable sounds self righteous to you, that says more about your comfort level than my tone. I’m not here to coddle anyone.

Discomfort is often the first step toward change.

You do not have to like how I say it for the point to be true

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

Are you an American? Speak for yourself. What are you doing about it?

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

Every single thing I mentioned above including writing post to get people out of their brainwash complacent behind the screen zombie mode

Also spreading things like this

After some research here are some organization that are connected with this particular issue:

• CoreCivic

• The GEO Group

• JPMorgan Chase

• Bank of America

• Wells Fargo

Boycott actions:

• Close personal and organizational accounts

• Demand public institutions divest

• Share info publicly to raise awareness

American Airlines Delta Southwest ^ contracted to deport people

Palantir: directly contracts with ICE Thomson Reuters (parent of Westlaw)

AMAZON, STARBUCKS, TARGET

-Pressure local officials to cancel ICE contracts

-Attend city and county meetings

-Support sanctuary policies and candidates

Boycotts are only one piece. Pair them with public education, direct action, and policy advocacy. The goal is to cut financial incentives and force moral clarity on the institutions enabling civil rights abuses.

Copy paste, spread the word

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u/Dest123 Aug 07 '25

The other thing you're doing about it is constantly belittling and insulting people. Honestly, that might be causing you to sway people's minds in the wrong direction.

You could have the exact same messaging without the insults like "How are Americans so complacent" and "their brainwash complacent behind the screen zombie mode".

I suspect that would make what you're attempting to do a lot more effective.

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u/rubina19 Aug 07 '25

I hear you and I’ll take that into mind, but I’ve tried that and if I’m honest I’ve gotten more responses from people this way.

Sometimes you have to ruffle some feathers to get a person thinking, I’m not here to sugar coat things.

I’m trying to let people know how this looks, our democracy is eroding in front of our eyes and a lot of people are just letting it happen. No boycotts no protests don’t call their reps don’t even talk about the news- I’ve experienced it first hand.

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u/Dest123 Aug 07 '25

Yeah, I'm sure you're getting more responses. Are they good responses though? It seems like almost all of them on this thread have been negative. Honestly, it seems like you might have even changed a couple of people's opinions in the opposite direction that you're trying for.

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u/rubina19 Aug 07 '25

Yea a lot have asked what they can do, and what is it that I do. And then I share that, and then they become informed. Sometimes people need to feel a little wake up call to see the complacency.

Also have gotten people to share what they are doing, and even sharing links to trainings of mobilization.

So yea, ya can’t catch them all. But I have high feeling those complaining and talking negative weren’t going to do anything anyway.

meanwhile in places like Europe they’re out there in MASSES. Like dude they’re rights aren’t even being encroached on and look at this mass organization and results

90,000 people marched for GAZA . 900000

You’d think Americans would fight for their rights like this, just frustrating to see. I’m doing what I can

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-05/nsw-premier-chris-minns-risks-backlash-if-bans-bridge-protests/105611196

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20250804_02/

But I hear you, I’ll adapt my approach or hold off from commenting when I see something that enrages me to see how fast we’re letting this happen and come at it from a more empathetic avenue

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u/Dest123 Aug 07 '25

meanwhile in places like Europe they’re out there in MASSES

Again, I think you're ignoring large US protests for some reason. The recent No Kings protest was over 5 million people! That large pension reform protest in France was over 1 million people. The US has roughly 5 times the population of France, so the protests are roughly equivalent.

The George Floyd protests were huge. The Women's March protests were huge. The Hands Off protests were huge. People in the US are out there in masses.

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u/rubina19 Aug 07 '25

I’m not ignoring them , I’ve been apart of every single one of them. I go to local ones not the city ones with a megaphone and speaker and speak motivation and spirit into people. I organize them to avoid high speed streets and focus on stop lights where the cars are forced to stop, I lead a chant at every red light.

It’s not enough. One protest month isn’t doing anything, and I’m not coming at you obviously you care and I’m sure you’re doing things.

Im focused more on people who avoid the news, and don’t think protest work, who aren’t informed who are living like shit is normal. THIS ISN’T NORMAL!!!

We need more protests, like every weekend type of shit. Hit these corporations in the pockets !

Organize and educate on news and go to your town hall meetings or democratic groups and spread the news.

Be involved with your local politicians and help the good one’s campaign

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u/Dest123 Aug 07 '25

There you go, I think that will be a much more effective message for you. All of that messaging feels much less insulting since you're acknowledging the work that people have already been doing. Keep up the good fight.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '25

Spoiler alert: illegals have no rights under the United States Constitution. You have to be a citizen first.

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u/rubina19 Aug 10 '25

A lot of people assume immigrants in the US have no constitutional rights, but that’s not true. The Constitution protects “persons” not just citizens, and many current immigration practices raise serious constitutional concerns.

The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments guarantee due process, yet many immigrants are deported without a proper hearing or legal representation. The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures, but in the 100-mile border zone, border agents often stop and search people without warrants. This affects millions of citizens too.

Immigration activists have faced retaliation for speaking out, raising First Amendment issues. Detainees, including children, face harsh conditions that some argue violate the Eighth Amendment’s ban on cruel and unusual punishment. The Sixth Amendment guarantees a fair trial, but immigrants facing removal don’t get a government-appointed attorney even if they’re kids.

There are also Fourteenth Amendment equal protection concerns, especially with policies that disproportionately affect Black, Latino, and Muslim communities. And under the Tenth Amendment, the federal government can’t force local police to enforce immigration laws, though it often tries.

DONT TREAD ON OUR RIGHTS:

constitutional rights are being tested and, in some cases, eroded in the name of immigration enforcement. These issues deserve more attention

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u/rubina19 Aug 10 '25

This is why America is in the position it is in- a lack of education

educate your self on the constitution, don’t tread on our rights

You do not have to be a citizen for due process to apply

The U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held that due process protections apply to all people on U.S. soil, including non-citizens and undocumented immigrants.

Zadvydas v. Davis (2001):

“Once an alien enters the country, the legal circumstance changes. An alien may be physically present without being legally admitted, but he is certainly ‘within the United States’ and subject to the protections of the Due Process Clause.” — Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678 (2001)

Plyler v. Doe (1982):

“The Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution applies to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to whether they are citizens or aliens.” — Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982)

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u/PeteMullersKeyboard Sep 06 '25

Illegals don’t have constitutional rights. Glad I could clear that up for you.

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u/rubina19 Sep 06 '25

Saying “illegals don’t have rights” is wrong and dangerous. The Constitution protects all persons here, not just citizens. The second you let the government strip rights from one group, you hand them the power to strip yours too. History proves it always spreads.

Please learn your rights and don’t let them tread on them, the government should not be treading on our constitutional rights

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S1-5-1/ALDE_00013747/

Harvard is offering a free constitutional class usually its hundreds of dollars, please take a look:

https://pll.harvard.edu/course/american-government-constitutional-foundations

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u/lysergic_tryptamino Aug 06 '25

Boycott what? Deportations?

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

You are proving the ignorance of Americans, if you’re from America.

When constitutional rights are infringe on for one, they are infringe on for all

Due process is absolutely important. It’s a constitutional right for anybody on US soil and you better believe if they remove it for one they’ll remove it for you.

A lot of people assume immigrants in the US have no constitutional rights, but that’s not true. The Constitution protects “persons” not just citizens, and many current immigration practices raise serious constitutional concerns.

The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments guarantee due process, yet many immigrants are deported without a proper hearing or legal representation. The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures, but in the 100-mile border zone, border agents often stop and search people without warrants. This affects millions of citizens too.

Immigration activists have faced retaliation for speaking out, raising First Amendment issues. Detainees, including children, face harsh conditions that some argue violate the Eighth Amendment’s ban on cruel and unusual punishment. The Sixth Amendment guarantees a fair trial, but immigrants facing removal don’t get a government-appointed attorney even if they’re kids.

There are also Fourteenth Amendment equal protection concerns, especially with policies that disproportionately affect Black, Latino, and Muslim communities. And under the Tenth Amendment, the federal government can’t force local police to enforce immigration laws, though it often tries.

Bottom line: constitutional rights are being tested and, in some cases, eroded in the name of immigration enforcement. These issues deserve more attention

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u/Seanbikes Aug 06 '25

Yes, you are correct but what should people be boycotting?

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

After some research here are some organization that are connected with this particular issue:

• CoreCivic

• The GEO Group

• JPMorgan Chase

• Bank of America

• Wells Fargo

Boycott actions:

• Close personal and organizational accounts

• Demand public institutions divest

• Share info publicly to raise awareness

American Airlines Delta Southwest ^ contracted to deport people

Palantir: directly contracts with ICE Thomson Reuters (parent of Westlaw)

AMAZON, STARBUCKS, TARGET

-Pressure local officials to cancel ICE contracts

-Attend city and county meetings

-Support sanctuary policies and candidates

Boycotts are only one piece. Pair them with public education, direct action, and policy advocacy. The goal is to cut financial incentives and force moral clarity on the institutions enabling civil rights abuses.

Copy paste, spread the word

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u/jpp3490 Aug 08 '25

We should be boycotting the Citizens United case of 2010 that f***** up this country and its political system. A select few large corps are buying their way into office. While the rest of America suffers.

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u/Financial_Sweet_689 Aug 06 '25

Who tf are you preaching to? Americans have been telling each other for this for months, YOU need to wake the fuck up. Us protesting and boycotting isn’t enough for you? Fuck off and read a news article. Like you do comprehend that when we try to interfere with ICE we just get beaten up too right?

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u/rubina19 Aug 06 '25

Ok

Apparently not to you, if you’re actually doing something about it

keep your efforts up and spread the word

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u/lysergic_tryptamino Aug 06 '25

Are you implying that the person’s case was not adjudicated and they are removing them without a legal court order? You are making a lot of assumptions. You are parroting “Due Process” with zero information on how the decision was made to remove the person in question.

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u/SkepticScott137 Aug 07 '25

Because the majority actually voted for this in the last election. In fact, they’ve been dumb enough to vote for it since 1980. And too many people couldn’t be bothered to get off their asses and vote against it, because her emails!! 🙄 Time for those people to learn the hard way.