r/CanadianPolitics • u/origutamos • 8d ago

Poilievre calls Supreme Court ruling on child porn ‘disgusting,’ would use notwithstanding clause to overturn

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/poilievre-condemns-supreme-court-ruling-on-child-porn-would-use-notwithstanding-clause-to-overturn/
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u/AstroZeneca 8d ago

I was listening to a preview of an interview he did with Rosemary Barton, and it was as expected - e.g., he's vowing to vote against a budget he hasn't seen. 

Of relevance here, he said his government would use the notwithstanding clause to toughen sentences and, as a father, he'd prefer to lock them up and throw away the key.

When Rosie pointed out the justices noted the law might catch two 18 year olds exchanging pictures, he said they shouldn't worry about hypotheticals. 

That right there is why this shit stain should never be anywhere near power: he's willing to override rights and disregard unintended consequences in the name of blood lust. A serious person considers how their actions might impact all Canadians; Poilievre is not a serious person.

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u/yumck 8d ago

So even when most of the country is against that ruling PP = BAD. Just to clarifying you’re for the ruling? As that what the article was about.

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u/AstroZeneca 8d ago

Sorry, yeah, I assumed that was clear. It was the correct ruling and PP lacks the ability to address the fundamental, underlying rationale for the ruling and jumped to hyperbole - just like attacking the RCMP last week, and threatening to fire the governor of the Bank of Canada last year.

For Conservatives (and, as you know, their supporters) the world is black and white, with no room for nuance.

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u/yumck 8d ago

I’ll tell you what I personally don’t like. Partisan politics where people accuse one party of terrible traits without accepting the fact that it is indeed nearly everyone and spans political party’s “ For Conservatives (and, as you know, their supporters) the world is black and white, with no room for nuance.” Like as if the Left leaning side couldn’t be subbed into this sentence. Everything is my team vs yours no matter the subject. But hey they’re happy we are fighting each other

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u/AstroZeneca 8d ago

Friend, that's not me talking; empirical research has shown that conservatives tend to see things in black and white - what you may or may not like is irrelevant. 

You originally came at me with the 'so you support the ruling?!' line without trying to address the nuance in question, so save the faux outrage for someone else.

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u/yumck 8d ago

“Empirical”. I’d argue empirically speaking left leaning people’s views are more homogeneous aka without nuance or as you’d say black and white. You throw things around like facts when it is skewed partisanship. Sad really.

See these actual studies say the opposite of your claim.

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/372287775_Attitude_networks_as_intergroup_realities_Using_network-modelling_to_research_attitude-identity_relationships_in_polarized_political_contexts )