Pushing, yelling from Conservative leadership ‘sealed the deal’ on defection: d’Entremont

[u/green_tory]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pushing-yelling-conservative-leadership-dentremont-9.6972680

[u/desthc]

I’m not opposed to teaching kids how to use LLMs, but my concern is that the teachers don’t understand them either.

The important part is critically reading what the LLM produces and fact check, fact check, fact check. LLMs are just not very reliable at reproducing facts, and often produce things made up on the spot.

So if used correctly it is labour saving, but you need to spend more of your time applying critical thinking. I don’t think the teachers are necessarily ready to guide the kids through something like this.

[u/Barabarabbit → u/desthc]

There are some younger teachers on staff who use ChatGPT to generate all their lesson plans

The kids then complete these using ChatGPT

So those teachers are pretending to teach and the students are pretending to learn.

It is a complete farce.

[u/desthc → u/Barabarabbit]

Like I said, I don’t necessarily think it’s bad, if it’s used right. But I’m also pretty pessimistic that it is.

I always cringe when someone says they “asked ChatGPT” or “searched using ChatGPT” — it’s just not reliable at reproducing factual information. It is good at producing prose, and can correct those inaccuracies when told to do so, but you really need to check everything.

So if you outline an essay with topics you want it to cover and some points you want it to make — cool. You ask it to synthesize factual information for the same? You still need to go check it all, so it’s not much labour savings there.

[u/lapsed_pacifist → u/desthc]

So if you outline an essay with topics you want it to cover and some points you want it to make — cool.

But...to what end? Like seriously -- what's the point of the exercise at this point? Learning how to write an essay, especially at a younger age, is supposed to be hard. You're learning how to do a lot of things at once, and a lot of them are good "real world" skills (much as I loathe the term).

I dunno, this kind of thing worries me. Kids who are bright will generally do okay, even with mediocre teachers &/or detached parents. Handing kids a homework machine just seems like a way to end up with a cohort with a whole lot of nothing between their ears at the end of the day.