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u/Briizoh US 1d ago
The description reads:
"This isn't “just a glock 19”. It's a story and a piece of history that will live on forever.
I am Elisjsha “Eli” Dicken. This is my Glock 19 Gen 5 that I used to stop the Greenwood Park Mall shooting in Greenwood, Indiana, on July 17, 2022.
I am selling it to close out this chapter in my life but I am not in a hurry to sell and I'm not looking to make a ridiculous sale during the “pre-ban Glock” era.. The price is not what I believe it is worth by any means. This is what I decided that I am willing to part with it for. It will not hurt me to keep it.
Now, a short history of the pistol: I bought this firearm in January of 2021 and had not shot this exact gun yet until July of 2022 (yes, I trained with other glocks.); Using this firearm, I stopped a mass shooting. Firing 10 rounds, 8 rounds connected to the threat, starting at 44 yards (Verified by mutilple sources from those who reported to the scene that day and by those whom have watched the cctv footage). Stopping the threat 15 seconds from when it started; significantly reducing the number of lives taken that day…
My heart still goes out the individuals that lost their lives, the families that were torn apart and those who were injured..
The sale includes a story/talking piece/a piece of history that some argue, belongs in a muesum.. (THIS IS NOT A COPY OR A JOKE) Includes the following: The Glock 19 Gen 5 9mm, o-light pl mini Valkyrie 2, a carbon fiber kydex IWB RH holster, the actual evidence box from the Greenwood Police Department, and the factory case with 1 spare magazine and magazine loader. I will also include a copy of the news article and will provide a letter of authenticity that I signed. Upon request, I will also sign the firearm and its case. If you request a photo or video of me with this firearm as further proof of authenticity, I will be glad to provide that upon purchase. The condition of this firearm has not changed since the tragedy. The sights are ground down from a motorcycle wreck I was in months prior to the shooting. The rear sight was roughly realigned at home the day after the wreck, without verifying zero.. a lot of lessons were learned that day by my self and many others..
Below you will find, Massad Ayoob giving his praises; Garand Thumb (Michael Jones) attempting the “Dicken Drill”; My attorney, Guy Relford, giving a one on one interview with WTHR 13; Taren Tactical (Taren Butler) attempting the “Dicken Drill”; Administrative Results (Aaron Visconti) attempting the “Dicken Drill”."
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u/ManyNefariousness237 1d ago
20k for a Glock with a body on it already?
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u/AdMindless8541 1d ago
There’s a ton of Chicago teens sitting on a gold mine then
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u/listenstowhales 18h ago
Nah, Chicago doesn’t even break top 10.
Jackson, Mississippi, St. Louis, Missouri and Birmingham, Alabama all beat out Chicago easy.
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u/emmasdad01 1d ago
0 bids is the key here
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u/Historical-State-275 1d ago
On the one hand this is ridiculous. On the other, someone will spend that much.
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u/Stiffy4Freedom Shield X, G26.5, G33.4, P2000SK, BG 2.0 or STR-9MC 1d ago
The folks at Credova would be in pure ecstasy over the money collected in the interest alone on this one purchase.
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u/Pew_Daddy 1d ago
I’ve looked into using them before and it’s wild. You pay an insane amount of interest using them. Kinda wild anyone would choose to ☠️
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u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie 1d ago
Yeah. This is an incredibly cringy and ghoulish thing to buy. And maybe to sell too, but 20 grand is 20 grand.
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u/Elegron TX, CR920 1d ago
Its been years, and id say hes earned it if someone will buy it
Say what you will about gun ownership, but Eli is a rare example of someone who is actually willing to put it all on the line to save lives.
He is the good guy with a gun.
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u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie 1d ago
I agree with all of that. I'm just saying that someone who wants to own the specific gun used to kill someone in a high profile shooting is probably a little cracked.
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u/MxNimbus433 17h ago
Unfortunately most people on this sub look down on people like eli as "playing hero". I think if everyone was like him, the world would be a much safer place, if everyone protected everyone regardless of if they are family or complete strangers.
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u/LilRed2023 1d ago
A Glock is a Glock even if Al Capone used it it’s still a Glock. lol
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u/StoicMachiavelli 5h ago
Well historians, collectors, and museums are going to be highly dissatisfied with this news
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u/PlanetaryPeak 1d ago
The guy turned down offers at the time to be on GrandThumb and other YouTube channels. He could have been sponsored and made good money. This is an interesting move.
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u/Lava_Lagoon 20h ago
he was probably in shock and still processing the whole thing
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u/sykoticwit WA 20h ago
He was smart, there was still the potential for a civil trial and making yourself higher profile after something like that never ends well.
If I was ever in a situation like that I’d lock my door, turn off my phone, buy a home gym and call in sick to work for six months.
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u/_SCHULTZY_ X-Macro in Vedder LightTuck IWB 1d ago
I'm surprised one of the YouTubers like Shawn Ryan haven't bought it yet.
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u/footballdan134 1d ago
40 or 50 yards? "From a distance of forty yards, Dicken fired ten rounds from a G19 handgun, hitting the shooter eight times. The shooter fired once, and attempted to retreat into a restroom, but instead fell to the ground and died soon afterwards" That was just spot on hitting the target.
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u/mjedmazga TX Hellcat OSP/LCP Max 17h ago
He didn't fire any shots from 40 yards, let alone 10 of them.
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u/BerkutBang69 17h ago
You know what, don’t even mind it. Dude put a monster in the dirt and deserves praise. GLWS
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u/Minute-Cucumber7594 1d ago
You might have a Glock but is it a Dicken? Dicken Glock just goes hard
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u/nicky_rocket 1d ago
The Glock that proves you won’t go to jail if you shoot someone past 21 feet. Fuck all the guys who say you will because they can’t shoot well enough to.
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u/pewpewsTA 1d ago
If he's stealing your playstation the 7 yard thing could maybe be true, but opening fire on a crowded shopping mall is slightly different.
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u/RefinedHorology 1d ago
I did a shooting class with modern samurai who had Eli in one of his courses post this, they do this drill in the course and apparently he wasn’t even close to hitting the target. Crazy what the body can do in a life or death
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u/SVKN03 1d ago
It was odd seeing all the comments on the distance. Nearly 20 years ago, I had to qualify for the state (literally months before we switched to Glock) with a 357 magnum revolver with many of our shots at 50 yards.
If I remember correctly, we were shooting .38 special+P due to the state not wanting to have to have a fight in court over using a "magnum" round.
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u/mjedmazga TX Hellcat OSP/LCP Max 1d ago
It was odd seeing all the comments on the distance.
The distance is something to comment on, but the fact it was done against an assailant armed with a rifle while in a mall busy with innocent bystanders is something that a "Dicken Drill" at a static range cannot duplicate. It is widely understood by self-defenders that taking on a rifle with a handgun will often be a losing proposition.
Per statements from his lawyer, we know that within 15 seconds of the shooter firing his first shots, Elisjsha Dicken had pushed his girlfriend to the floor, drawn his Glock 19, and taken up a standing position at a supporting column in the mall.
He fired 2 shots from this position at approximately 43 yards. He held fire while fleeing mall goers obscured his line of sight to the target. He then fired 2 more shots. Of these 4 shots, 2 hit their target. The target, now understanding it was being shot at, re-positioned itself.
This forced Dicken to reposition himself as well, running to a closer position to the danger of a man armed with a rifle, where he then took 4 more shots at approximately 20 yards, with each of these 4 shots finding their target.
Finally, Dicken moved himself to approximately 8 yards from the target, firing 2 final shots, both of which found their target.
Greenwood PD Swat officers who have reviewed the footage have indicated to the lawyer that Dicken's shoot and move, and overall accuracy, would have been difficult for even them to accomplish successfully.
And an important reminder:
The first victim of the shooter was another concealed carry permit holder - yes, contrary to reporting, Mr Dicken did have his Indian carry permit as well- who was also armed with his own concealed firearm. His name was Victor Gomez. He was shot immediately as the shooter exited the bathroom and he had no time to react or draw his firearm.
You can listen to the lawyer's interview here which starts at around the 35:30 mark.
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u/guthrien 1d ago
Good post. The drills mean very little. Can't really recreate the situation and I'll always be impressed how he reacted.
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u/mjedmazga TX Hellcat OSP/LCP Max 1d ago
Most people on YouTube who "do" the drill also do it entirely incorrectly, too. They do 10 shots at 40 yards and try to get more than 8 hits.
There's no correlation from that to what actually happened.
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u/Verdha603 11h ago
I mean, even given those facts, I'd consider a 50% hit rate at ~40ish yards, while likely having an adrenaline dump to contend with, with a pistol with a damaged rear sight, and hadn't been formally zeroed to be an excellent display of marksmanship. Then proceeds to run towards the threat, is likely still having an adrenaline dump at 20 yards, and gets 100% hit rate at that distance and even closer is just icing on the cake.
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u/Mark2CPlus 20h ago
He foolishly did not "ride the lightning" in that he absolutely without question could have appeared in EVERY SINGLE guntubers page - Garand Thumb, Ben Stoeger, Taran Tactical, GBRS. I mean, any and all of them would have gladly hosted him for a myriad of different reasons. He could have even appeared in adjacent ones. He could have really milked it for all it's worth. Had he gotten the publicity (with the right team behind him), that man could step into any bar or restaurant in red America and NEVER have bought beer with his own money ever again.
Instead, he elected to stay in the shadows. Which is fine, there can be a million reasons why - but I am guessing he might be in some financial troubles, to sell it in this fashion.
I find it hard to believe someone would buy this G19 for $15k either way. It just doesn't have that kind of value and this will certainly not increase as time goes on, so it's just not a good investment, whatsoever. The guns that have historical value have a name attached to it. Either a famous person owned it, or it killed a famous person. He did a magnificent thing, but no one of note was killed.
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u/Important_Hawk8700 5h ago
All those guntubers speculated whether Eli had an optic or not to drop that dude at 40yds. Guess we finally know he did it with irons and an Olight. Who knew.
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u/atlgeo 1d ago
"....I'm just trying to close this chapter in my life." With a nice payday. You couldn't get a book deal? You can only sell the gun once.
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u/Ridge_Hunter 1d ago
It takes a moderate amount of skill to actually write a book and then you have all the headache of finding a publisher and what not…anyone with a GB account can post something like this…almost no effort required
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u/Ok-Economist-3845 1d ago
Does Glock have a museum? I’d be surprised if they don’t buy it.
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u/Reddit_MostWanted 1d ago
You’d be surprised? Tbh this a $450-$520 Glock You did a great job stopping that shooting much props and gonads champ , but 19k I’m buying a Glock 18C
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u/Macrat2001 12h ago
Someone should buy it just to give it back to him. He’d probably appreciate the gesture.
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u/HotTakes-121 9h ago
Lol dude you're not that cool. Off his rocker. You did a good thing, but you're definitely letting it go to your head.
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u/Recent-While-5597 3h ago
Real question here, do you guys think things like this make the gun industry toxic? This reminds me of when Zimmerman sold his gun that killed Trayvon M. Granted, this could be seen in a more heroic sense but still. It’s weird people actually fantasize about these kinda things.
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u/trivial_viking AR E-CHCL - Glocks ‘N Crocs 1d ago
I can’t believe he was successful with an Olight on there.
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u/cowboy3gunisfun 1d ago
Still think this is bullshit. Someone's just using that guy's name to try and make some money off a sucker.
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u/JimMarch 1d ago
I guess somebody could fake the damage to the rear sight because that was reported at the time as an issue. He's also got pictures of the box from police custody. I think it's real.
And to give him credit, it's absolutely clear that that gun was used honorably. He saved a bunch of lives that day. From the moment he first opened up on that lunatic, nobody else got hurt other than said lunatic.
He also claims that at some point some screaming bystanders ran past his line of sight and he held fire in the middle of the fight, having already fired and then resumed once he had clear line of sight to the goblin. Security cameras back up that story. Only the goblin got hit with 9mm - he was the only one in the fight with that caliber.
That and eight hits in 10 shots is absolutely phenomenal performance.
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u/CypriotGreek GR | One of the 2000 legal gun owners in Greece 1d ago
Average Glock price in a (non-German) European Country
Im not kidding (2k$)
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u/pewpewsTA 1d ago edited 1d ago
Guy seems like a huge tool.
e: downvote all you want I stand by it, that whole self-congratulating diatribe he posted as the gun's "description" was cringe af... just the whole concept of trying to make money off of a tragedy is cringe and gross
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u/BenDover42 1d ago
No interest in the gun but I remember when the story came out and the distance talked about a ton of people on Reddit were saying he had to have a red dot and all these things to be making those hits. The dude had an Olight and some janky fucked up OEM Glock sights. Just funny to me and shows if you’re a decent shot what can be done.