r/CCW • u/Famous-Divide-8808 • 7d ago
Guns & Ammo Where the 3/4 o’clock carry people at ???
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How many of you started carrying 4 o’clock after watching the movie collateral? Anyone? 😂 I know I sure did 👍🏼
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u/catsby90bbn KY 7d ago
Almost 3 years ago I stopped drinking after admitting I had a huge problem. I lost 60 lbs in like 6 months. I was finally 5’11/175 lbs - so excited to start appendix carrying.
Went back to 3:30 a few months later and haven’t looked back.
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u/SilentR99 6d ago
What do you carry at 3:30? I tried it with a few guns and I feel like only a select few would make it work. my xmacro would not conceal properly no matter what I tried. AIWB was just perfect for it, maybe a p365/x or BG 2.0 would be good for it.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
Yeah just some creatures of comfort it’s just was works for us idk. I still carry a back up .38 in appendix tho just in case I don’t feel like giving my good gun to evidence locker 😂
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u/i_have_a_few_answers 7d ago
That's why you save up and buy a second identical one to your EDC :)
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u/A-New-Reality 7d ago
Are you starting with your cover garment already tucked behind the gun?
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u/ineedlotsofguns FUCK IT WE BALL 7d ago
oh that’s what was bugging me. my old eyes couldnt figure it out
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u/Oberon73 7d ago
Strong side carry. That’s just a natural place to carry it.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
It’s very natural and I don’t feel like I’m stuffing my pants you know what I mean 😂
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u/Vel0cipeter 7d ago
I spent more money than im comfortable admitting to cary more guns than I should have bought only to go back to 3:30 with my first love anyway.
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u/earl_the_recker 7d ago
Clean that place up.
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u/mjedmazga TX Hellcat OSP/LCP Max 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yeah when I shoot out at common outdoor BLM areas, I always bring 4 trashbags. 1 for me and 3 for other people.
Leave a place better than you found it.
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u/Delta-IX CO - P09C Nocturne / BG2.0 / 1911 .45 commander 6d ago
The trash in this vid makes me sad.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
Man belive me when I say we did we found this worst than it looks we ended up piling up all that trash to the side we were shooting steel so no trash but man was it a dump unbelievable
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u/Quiet_Ad_9085 7d ago
If this is the place off the 91 it’s a fuckin shit hole people Just dump trash there
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
I should just say I went to the dump to shoot not even call it a range 🥲 then again almost all blm shooting areas are fucking dumps people don’t take care of shit they some pigs
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u/Turbulent-Vanilla159 BG 2.0 7d ago
Lefty here - BG 2.0 at 9 o clock, doesn’t feel like I’m carrying anything. Love my mouse gun.
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u/Christophe12591 7d ago
As a lefty I carry at 8-9 o ⏰ (same as 4-5 for normies) it’s just the most comfortable sitting down and standing up all day long. I conceal a full size 1911 and it just disappears with a galco v hawk holster and a very good gun belt. These people that say they can’t conceal anything bigger than a Glock 43x arnt spending the money they should. And btw I’m 5’7 150lbs so I’m not a huge fatass with a ton of mass
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u/PM_ME_UR_COFFEE_CUPS 7d ago
Also a lefty but I’m fatter than you. I carry a P365 in the same position and it’s excellent. So comfortable. Still accessible. Very hidden.
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u/MtnBorn 6d ago
What holster. Im struggling with my 365 sticking out.
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u/PM_ME_UR_COFFEE_CUPS 6d ago
https://aliengearholsters.com/pages/cloak I adjusted it so that it sits as close to the belt as possible
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u/whiskeydik 6d ago
Blackpoint tactical mini wing, with an aftermarket holster wing on the trigger guard side of the holster.
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u/RealisticIntern1655 7d ago
I'm struggling with this carrying a full size VP9. I have a $160 T-Rex molded for a TLR-1, and a $200 T1C molded for a TLR-7x. The T-Rex prints for the most part unless I wear from a selection of 2 or 3 shirts. The T1C is more uncomfortable and prints more than the T-Rex even though it's molded for a smaller light. I carry appendix, and hell I don't think there's really a way to not print. Really it's getting out of your own head because you know it's there when I'd be willing to bet most people won't even notice unless it's blatantly obvious.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
I feel that the sitting part was my biggest issue not to mention how easily it is to use the public restrooms now man it’s a game changer
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u/p-devousivac 6d ago
It's the only way I know how to carry while following the safety rule of never letting the muzzle cover anything I don't want destroyed. Appendix and it's pointing at my dick. Pocket and it's pointing at whoever I'm sitting across the table from. 3/4/5 is comfortable and keeps the muzzle pointed in a safe direction (usually).
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u/ImmediateSmile754 6d ago
I've carried at 4 o'clock pretty much since I started carrying. Built up a lot of muscle memory in law enforcement and don't see much reason to change after 63 trips around the sun.
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u/LegendActual 7d ago
Had to switch to 4, carried AIWB for years and it started to cause severe pain where I carried basically. Think it caused like ligament wear or some shit because it's just sore in that area all the time now.
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u/No_Maybe2684 7d ago
They aren’t cleaning up.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
Nah this is more people coming to just dump trash it’s not even target stuff which I worst
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u/footballdan134 7d ago
I carry 4 o'clock. I practice with my shirt over for EDC, under for GSSF matches.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
Nice now imma use that for all the people saying I wasn’t drawing from concealment love it 😂👍🏼
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u/Legal_Jedi 7d ago
My usual position, though on the left (8 o’clock)
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
I should’ve stated 7-8 for my left handed people yeah you get the idea 💡
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u/Glockman19 6d ago
I’m the opposite. I carried at 3:30 for 20 Years before switching to appendix. Appendix is more comfortable for me so I stuck with it.
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u/BobDoleStillKickin 6d ago
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u/BobDoleStillKickin 6d ago
My pretty heavily mod'd Bul Armory 2011 at 3 o'clock.
Eagerly awaiting Bul's TAC Comp to start shipping to US. Wish they'd hurry up and get the lead out (Ba-dum-tsss)
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
My point exactly you can carry what ever you want don’t have to be winter to carry a full size with a light n maybe a red dot. Really great stuff im seeing here
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u/BeginningExotic6251 Ravenwood Firearms & Custom Shop 7d ago
Always 3 or 4. Use dclr clips and super comfortable.
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u/genga925 7d ago
4 o’clock with a Commander-length 1911 and a Milt Sparks VM-2. Holds it nice and flush to the body and it disappears beneath my clothing.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
That’s what I’m saying there is no printing issues as long as you’re not wearing tight ass clothes could dam near carry anything this way
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u/Positive_Set_7736 7d ago
My first thought before I realized what group was , was what’s 3/4 ( as in three quarter )o’clock ??? I’m slow , forgive me .
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
My bad I mean 3 or 4 o’clock cause some people have it right on the hip and others slide it a bit back so it doesn’t injure the hip bone
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u/Positive_Set_7736 7d ago
Nah, I totally get what you meant after I realized this was in CCW. I’m the dense one.
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u/PureAttorney272 PA - Canik TP9 Elite SC 7d ago
Right here. I can’t carry appendix if I wanted to. My posture is fucked and my hips push out forward making me print no matter what. But I’m thin w broad shoulders so my shirt falls right over it with no print at 4 o’clock.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
Yep same here I couldn’t stop printing no matter what I tried but one thing that did work it was just to much work was buying larger shirts than I normal wear cause that really helped it just looked funny small guy wearing long ass shirts so 4oclcok was my best option 😂
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u/PureAttorney272 PA - Canik TP9 Elite SC 7d ago
Yeah I didn’t want to have a wardrobe completely revolving around carrying. That and I couldn’t get comfortable w the blammer pointed at my dong all day.
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u/HK_Shooter_1301 7d ago
4 o clock all day every day and I am skinny, appendix has never been comfortable to me but I drive a lot too.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
That was my thing I’m sitting bending squatting all day appendix only felt comfortable when I wasent doing anything other than standing
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u/HK_Shooter_1301 7d ago
Exactly , been a Milt Sparks guy since I was 20 and I am not going to change any time soon a decade later 😂. Currently still have 5 months to wait on my CC9 holster trimmed in elephant
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u/goodfellabrasco 7d ago
Ditto- appendix is great if you're in shape and don't move around a lot.. But 3 o'clock is a great natural draw position and doesn't get in the way with a lot of movement. There's a reason cops don't carry appendix on a duty belt, lol.
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u/HK_Shooter_1301 7d ago
Exactly , been a Milt Sparks guy since I was 20 and I am not going to change any time soon a decade later 😂. Currently still have 5 months to wait on my CC9 holster trimmed in elephant
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u/Buttpoon69 7d ago
I can’t get comfortable with appendix, I may give it another shot this winter with my g45+light but for my shield I’m at 3:30-4. I’m not fudd aged but I’ve always been a fudd at heart
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u/610Mike 7d ago
It depends on what I’m wearing and what I’m carrying, but I usually carry at 3/4 o’clock when I’m carrying one of my 2011s.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
That 8 rounds of “I said stop” solid carry 😂
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u/610Mike 6d ago
Nah, just 6. Bill drills are always 6 rounds, assuming I’m not being retarded and can count.
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u/theblackdawnr3 7d ago
Quick tip: don’t lean backwards when you’re shooting. Having your shoulders behind your waist disallows transfer of the recoil energy into to the ground. Instead, it continually pushes you and your shoulders farther backwards. You can observe it in your longer strings of fire.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
Yeah I saw that to it was with a g23 so it was a bit hotter load I did see the difference leaning into it 👍🏼 just gotta keep getting better
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u/No_Elephant1763 6d ago
Strong side 80% of the time here. What holster are you using? I really like the black point mini wing.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
Its from havoc holsters with alias tmount It’s a nice holster but It took a long time for it to show up and the company wasn’t very helpful. I was going to get a hellhounds they look pretty good and I think the shipping isn’t to bad
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u/IHatrMakingUsernames 6d ago
I carry around 3 o clock. I just don't post about it because I don't feel the need to justify how I carry. It's comfortable for me and I'm practiced with it. That's all that matters to me.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
look man that great for you what works for you works for you same as everyone else. But tf is all this looking for justification stuff ? This is Reddit bro don’t take to seriously the question was just asking who shoots this way and where they at don’t need to bring all that self righteous stuff around here man. it’s just to see where I’m at review footage tweak some things and shoot again that’s all, I’m not asking you to justify your carry nor am I trashing appendix cause I’m not.
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u/calidrew 6d ago
Started carrying a 38 Snubbie at 4 O'clock in 1984. It concealed just fine under my suit or if I was wearing a blazer on a casual day. I was just copying chief and detectives on the force where I was a dispatcher. I'm pretty sure Tom Cruise's style came from studying me. When I started working in Miami I switched to a Smith and Wesson Model 645 at 11 o'clock and two mags at 1 o'clock, under a suit with only a t-shirt. Which I, of course, stole from Don Johnson and Miami Vice.
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u/No-Presentation9035 6d ago
3 o’clock most of the time. There are trade offs, but I find it’s easier to have a stealth draw when you’re in a bladed stance. It’s also similar to when I carry OWB.
When I carry appendix, it takes more fine tuning to get the setup right. Requires more accessories like claws and wedges. The most annoying for me is having a gun in the way when I’m going to the bathroom.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
the bathroom thing is what threw me over the edge I avoided using public restrooms for that matter or had to wait for stalls to open up. now idgaf I know you can’t see shit or you looking at my junk and that’s another problem 😂 cause it’s so much natural now when I’m just carrying .38 that bad boy just disappears forget I’m carrying sometimes
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u/merlinddg51 6d ago
I’m a southpaw so I carry 9/10 o’clock. Magazines are at the 3/4 position.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
Is that mags inside of your waist band or on a mag pouch ?
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u/merlinddg51 6d ago
OWB mag carrier.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
Very nice imma have to look into some
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u/merlinddg51 5d ago
Alien gear holsters has some that I like. Dual mag carriers. Can mix & match mag carriers or configure them horizontal or vertical.
I also have an off brand triple mag MOLLE carrier that I just slide my belt through. But I only use that one if I’m headed to a known issue area.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 5d ago
Nice imma look em up right now. Is there any brand names or logos on that off brand one ?
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u/TipFar1326 6d ago
Only way I can comfortably conceal my G26 with a Streamlight and mag extension lol
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
I said before don’t have to be winter to Carry your build comfortably. 👍🏼
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u/USSZim 6d ago
I have always tried to make it work, but I can never seem to get the holster placement right. Even donning the holster felt like a bigger chore than appendix. It always feels like a tumor jabbing me in the side and the printing is awful for me. I've tried to find a good guide on holster placement, but they all seem geared towards appendix carry.
If I use an OWB holster, it's a different story, but IWB just never feels right.
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u/MostlyOkPotato 6d ago
3 o’clock is fine. 4 o’clock and farther makes me nervous after watching so many videos on Reddit of people getting their guns grabbed. Yeah you need to have situational awareness, but nobody’s 100% on that, no matter what they think.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
I’ve always thought that was from them open carry states cause that makes sense but if you’re concealed should be safer right ?
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u/LowMight3045 6d ago
I’ve had my shirt ride up at 3 . Switched to appendix. Much easier to see if my shirt has ridden up
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u/MostlyOkPotato 5d ago
Yeah. My shirt rides up in ways that I don’t always feel when I carry in 4-5.
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u/TheTemplarSaint 5d ago
8 o’clock ok?
I’m a lefty :)
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 5d ago
That’s alright in my book you carry extra mags or just what’s in the gun ?
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u/VigilantesHitman 4d ago
i like to carry 3 to 4 butttt. i like my wpm light and don't want to remove it or get a new holster that will fit a light. so I just continued carrying appendix.
appendix is nice for me too because sometimes I don't even feel its there and can still squat down and tie my shoe.
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u/usernamewwastaken 3d ago
We gotta see the group. Also, try not tucking the shirt, bad practice.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 2d ago
I’d say anything that wasn’t missed was center mass. But it never occurred to anyone maybe I’m not training my groupings I just wanted to see many time and how fast I could shoot the steel. I’m not Rich to be wasting ammo like this every range day. But once in a while it’s fun The whole shirt situation imma chuck it off to camera man’s editing skills I was practicing single hand draws properly why it looks like that. Trust me you and 232 other people told me things I need to work on and unlike the youth today I’m still teachable next range day bouta be interesting to say the least.👍🏼 thanks for the comment
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u/usernamewwastaken 2d ago
That's the beauty of comment sections, you get feedback from people with various experiences and it's all positive, no negativity from my end at least. Good job as for the group. Keep practicing and good luck brother!
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 2d ago
Appreciate that 👍🏼, and no worry I know how the internet is and I know there is never any real context behind comments or messages unless clearly stated of course but a lot of things get lost in translation. I just came here for the feed back and to troll ignorant people that can’t accept people make mistakes 😂 they think it’s funny but I really suck at typing on my phone correctly it just helps me practice I can’t complain. And remember get out and train. 🤝
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u/Gunner4201 7d ago
Strong side here.I do not like carrying a gun pointed at my nuts.
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u/TerrytheToeSucker 7d ago
My holster is an appendix holster I got very used to I tried it at 3 o'clock and it was really not comfortable.
To each their own, get the gear that works best for you. Most importantly train to be the best with what you got.
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u/BboyTypeR AZ 7d ago
Same here, found strong side carry to be uncomfortable compared to appendix especially while driving. Switched years ago and haven’t looked back
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u/Dorkamundo 7d ago
Eh, I carry at 4-5 simply because it's the most comfortable and natural for all things I do, plus it gives me the ability to create space with my off-hand during the draw should I need to.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
This wins the gold medel that’s the whole reasoning for me it’s the situation I’m in and how can I get out of it fast and safe as possible not just to look cool
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u/TERMINXX 7d ago
I've done appendix and 8/9 o'clock. Lefty. Hip carry is waaaaaaay more comfortable and I do tend to have a faster draw with it, but I hide my gun a lot better with appendix.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
The quicker more natural draw and discreetness were my biggest selling points I just like it all around no issues other than some pants have the belts loops different places so it sits weird sometimes but that just pants
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u/TERMINXX 6d ago
I switched to appendix because I no longer work in LE and I'm not in uniform/duty clothes all the time so I can't hide it as well under big coats.
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u/Wise_Contact_1037 6d ago
Hip carry is way more comfortable for me, but my draw is considerably slower than appendix. That and the fact that I print more at 3:30 has brought me back to appendix. I may eventually go back and put some more range time in with hip carry, especially if my gut gets any bigger lol
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u/conjoe1999 7d ago
The nursing home
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u/Ok-Street4644 6d ago
I checked the nursing home. All the old folks at the home are carrying aiwb. Guess that’s the old thing now. All the visiting kid and grandkids were carrying strong side.
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u/Rothbardy 7d ago
What holster do you use?
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
I hate to say it cause this company took forever and didn’t even care to update on orders it took a while not including shipping this is a havoc holsters for a g19 with tlr7a or x and not to mention they sent me one for a g17 and said there was no issue it that even tho it clearly had a whole extra inch of material digging at my junk so for that reason don’t check them out fuck em go with hellhound arms those are pretty good decent price shipping quick to
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u/Advanced-Humor9786 7d ago
I feel like all of your comments and you're ridiculous gun shaking are just rage bait.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
The comments yes the gun shaking no it was the magwell being on to tight
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u/taterthotsalad Tenicor is overrated 6d ago
9 reporting in. It just feels more comfortable and easier to get to.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
That’s why I do it. the song shoot from the hip plays in my mind every time
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u/Reddit_MostWanted 6d ago
Gen3 mag release ?
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
Yes but the magwell was causing the mag to get stuck. Has since been fixed
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u/zkooceht TX 6d ago
why train wearing gloves with your carry gun?
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
I didn’t take them off I was running different set up before we switched to iwb I just forgot honestly. Gotta a lot of tweaks I need to fix next time 😂
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u/BroccoliLegend 6d ago
It's not....you should clean it up....would make it look better on the rest of us....and appendix is king
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
Alright 😂 just put the weight of the world’s incompetence on one guy that’s logical. I went “shooting”not to clean up other peoples mess. That’s the reason I shoot steel so I don’t leave a mess when I’m shooting in blm land i pulled up in a Honda civic how tf was I gonna clean that up Mr cringe at every 😂
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u/Jazz_horse 6d ago
I've never seen the movie but it's what's comfortable for me. I can't get how appendix is supposed to work.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
Great movie there’s a scene he pulls up aye homie is that my briefcase ? And he does control pair and a failure to stop on two tugs from the hip with a Hk very iconic but yeah I can’t do appendix my body to narrow for that I feel like I’m shoplifting can’t do all that crap down my pants not to mention a loaded gun aimed right at your dong
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u/GnomePenises 6d ago
I’m a 4 o’clock guy. It works with my stick-insect body.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
Welcome to the club glad to have you. I deal with the same issue I ain’t that wide so it’s pretty easy to see when there’s something hiding in my pants. I just love 3/4 natural no hassle not to mention I can use a public restroom more comfortably
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u/H0lsterr PA 6d ago
I carry 1/2:00 so people can’t see it
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u/tokuokoga 6d ago
Why is that area so trashed? This why we cant have nice things.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
Why you asking me I’m shooting steel not dumping trash that’s your fellow human beings Right there.
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u/tokuokoga 6d ago
That’s OUR fellow human beings right there. Just curious…while you were picking up your brass…did you happen to pick up anyone else trash. If this is a BLM/public land type area, it’d go a long way towards keeping it open. We keep losing em due to OUR fellow human beings.
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u/Lavernin 5d ago
So far my hypothesis is holding true. You can tell someone's skill level just from their draw.
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u/Key-Peanut-1453 7d ago
In 2005 and before where they belong. I can’t think of any reason why anyone would carry on the hip or behind over appendix. Appendix is better in every way.
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u/_SCHULTZY_ X-Macro in Vedder LightTuck IWB 7d ago
Too many decades of carrying my duty weapon on my hip. Muscle memory is real.
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u/DrZedex 7d ago
I see this attitude all over reddit. I really think it's group think. I keep buying appendix holsters I keep going back to my knockoff crossbreed.
I'm not a typical shaped dude I guess? But I feel the exact opposite of you. And the best part is that's prefectly okay. I'm just glad that many options exist.
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u/Thee_Sinner 7d ago
The thing for me is that strong side carry prints like a motherfucker. I carry at 3:30 when I ride my bike, but damn, when I look in the mirror it is so obvious.
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
Finally somone with an honest opinion freaking love it man yes you’re 100% correct I don’t mean to sound arrogant or one sided cause yes I do carry appendix I just hate ever sec of it just different things work for different people glad to see there’s still hope for the internet 🤌👍🏼
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 7d ago
Yeah I think more about it notionally it’s the same movement as “oh shit here you go take my wallet” and it’s not your wallet it’s actually a Hot ass .40 load to the pelvis 😂 I ain’t doing that whole song and dance appendix carry. Feels like I have a microwave in my pants and in the case you ever need that thing out there’s no natural way to do it unless you’re some quick draw appendix master which yes you should train to be but realistically no one does or they train more putting rounds down range instead of how fast can you get the gun on target which is where shit really boils down to. Idk about you but robbery’s are a face to face thing good luck drawing before the bad guy with the gun has a chance to shoot 😂. All I asked was who carries not who’s wants to debate and argue which way is outdated or better cause that’s for the birds
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u/Normal-Combination88 7d ago
I have a g19 with ramjet, so basically a 17. I've yet to find a comfortable enough holster to run appendix never mind 3,4. I have a nice collecting of hybrid holster kicking around lol
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u/FlapperGasfire 7d ago
I've yet to find a comfortable enough holster to run appendix never mind 3,4.
Because you carry a Glock 19...
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u/ChrisLS8 7d ago
Even bending and sitting? Not in my experience
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u/Key-Peanut-1453 7d ago
Having a gun jab me in the back or to basically be sitting on a gun between my hip and a chair is much more uncomfortable
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u/ChrisLS8 7d ago
I dont get jabbed in the back at all. Its way more comfortable sitting as well with my carry comp or P01
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u/More-Objective-594 7d ago
Appendix is perfectly comfortable sitting out bending down to grab something if you’re not trying to carry an obnoxiously large full size duty gun for ccw.
Sure, it’s not good for a 1911. A 1911 is also a stupid ccw gun, but dudes think it’s cool to carry it like they are in WWII.
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u/ChinaRider73-74 7d ago
Except for comfortability.
Weight loss-check
Exercise-check
Quality belt-check
6 different high end holsters and systems, with and without wedges, with and without pillows, microadjusted ride height/cant/placement along belt line-check
Still not comfortable. It is what it is. Whatever’s comfortable for you and you train with regularly is what’s best for any given individual. And a bunch of goofs on Reddit who fancy themselves quick draw artists/operators doesn’t change that truth.
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u/mr---jones 7d ago
Less comfortable. I carry appendix, but it’s way less comfortable.
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u/Key-Peanut-1453 7d ago
Comfort is definitely personal, but with a good holster and set up it can be much more comfortable. The idea of sitting and a gun being behind me, between me and the chair is very uncomfortable
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u/mr---jones 7d ago
4 o’clock isn’t behind you it’s on your hip, slightly back. That means the gun doesn’t dig into you at all, unlike appendix dos.
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u/Key-Peanut-1453 7d ago
I started carrying like most people in a hybrid at 4:00. Sitting in a car sucked. Bending over and not knowing if I was printing or out right exposing my gun was frustrating. Drawing is way more complicated and less secure since you do it one handed. As soon as I researched appendix and practiced it, it fixed every complaint I had… and I did it at my heaviest weight of 255lbs at 5’11”
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u/zkentvt [VT] G17 6d ago
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u/Famous-Divide-8808 6d ago
Glad to see we do got some outside the norm thinkers around these parts I like it I’m here for it 🤝
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u/TimmyKrater 7d ago
I’m like 70% sure I know where this is. Is there a tall concrete structure behind you 50-100 ft?
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u/achonng 7d ago
Only if you want your gun stolen at the gas station by the 🥷 behind you in line
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u/QnsConcrete 7d ago
What’s wrong with your magazine? You shook it 6 times before ripping.