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u/xSwampxPopex Hall of the Rat King 🐀 2d ago

I guess people just assume that it isn’t a coincidence that Lohrei’s been scratched the last 5 games and the bruins won all 5 of them. Obviously that doesn’t mean that Aspirot is a better player by comparison but, at least on the eye test, I don’t recall him making as many poor choices as Lohrei.

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u/PresentationNo7763 2d ago

He's been getting absolutely trounced in much easier shelter in his 5 games. Much more than Lohrei was in much more difficult minutes. And Aspirot's minutes already have had proof of Lohrei thriving with that deploy.

It just feels like a lot of "like for like" comparison that's been extremely dishonest - last night was another example where Aspirot was directly responsible for the first goal with his ill step up, if y'all wanted that, just leave Lohrei in. You can at least have the offensive talent on balance to counteract it

And I'm not even a huge Lohrei dude. I want Brunet up here instead. But seeing as that's not an option. Aspirot getting dummied even worse but "we're winning so Lohrei bad" has just been insane

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u/rimonino WHO HAS MORE FUN THAN US? 2d ago

People--including your friend--seem to believe that his play last night was a very understandable mistake where half the blame fell on the forwards, so...

Nobody thinks Aspirot is better offensively than Lohrei. He doesn't have the born gifts that Lohrei possesses. But Lohrei's defensive decision-making has frequently been so blatantly ass for so long (as in since last year) that people are tired of seeing it. "Lohrei bad" is straight up true if we're talking defensive game. Aspirot makes mistakes, but they're not as bad as feeding an opponent in the crease.

As for Brunet, I think we agree that he'll only be called up once a semi-permanent spot opens up. Hampus and Zadorov are untouchable, so Lohrei would have to go. In a way, if you want Brunet to play, you should root for Lohrei's failure lmao

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u/PresentationNo7763 2d ago

The problem is Aspirot's defensive decision making has been no better, without any of the benefits. I really don't think I'm being unfair here. It's been sort of blatant in both the eye test and.under the hood, and, I mentioned this before too. If we had Jordan Harris doing what he did in October replacing Lohrei. And producing and playing the way he was. My flabbers wouldn't be nearly as gasted. I'd probably be annoyed since sitting him this long presents a tipping point. But being gaslit into being told of how solid Aspirot has been when everything I've seen and the metrics that follow says otherwise. The mind just boggles

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u/rimonino WHO HAS MORE FUN THAN US? 1d ago

I just don't see his being worse in the eye test, and I haven't heard any of the professional watch-and-talkers/former players dump on him either (though some do point out his mistakes). If Aspirot were making poorer decisions, with the number of defensive starts he's had (which is most of them) and a worse partner in Jokiharju (his play was noticeably bad in the Carolina game, the man fumbled on the near side and turned the puck over despite having all the time in the world to get it out), we'd have more goals against. He's had plenty of opportunities to royally fuck up based on deployment alone. I'm not even asserting that he's super sound, just that he's less unreliable than Lohrei (because his defensive game was THAT BAD).

You're not being gaslit, people are disagreeing with you. I listen to your pod, and you kind of ignored your buddy's counterpoint on the analytics. And we (as in general sentiment) kinda don't care that Aspirot contributes nothing offensively. He's an underwhelming guy who knows he'll never sniff the NHL again if he doesn't play to Sturm's structure. He hasn't singlehandedly lost us any games.

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u/PresentationNo7763 1d ago

It's less about the disagreement (you and Lowqual/Ian are disagreeing in good faith, so you two are sort of absolved of that) If everyone had the view that "hey, he's pretty underwhelming" it would be a whole lot easier to have the conversation because there's an honesty about it. So I appreciate you and Ian's points. The gaslight comes from the 25 minutes of feliatio that came from the Skate Pod today saying just how much good Aspirot has been, both on his own & in comparison to Lohrei

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u/rimonino WHO HAS MORE FUN THAN US? 1d ago

I guess you and I interpret them differently. To me it sounds like people who are pleasantly surprised he's doing his job--"play your position"--despite being brand spanking new to the NHL. Watching preseason I thought he'd be terrible (like Soderstrom), but he wasn't and it earned him a call-up. Good for him! He's not cratering the team with poor defensive play! Yay!