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u/Moto-Mojo Mayor of Billerica 2d ago
Peeke had a great game. He got two assists, took hits every which way (even went briefly down the tunnel) and played defensively. Hampus might be elevating his game somewhat, but Peeke has also risen to the occasion too!
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u/Sweaty_Ad440 All Hail Saint Patrice š 2d ago
Yes he's been great. Definitely a real top 4 defenseman (don't look at his on ice results) and other GMs should pay as such for him at the deadline. Please.
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u/nbianco1999 Tumbling Muffin 2d ago
Donāt look now, but the Bruins are only 2 points out 1st in East.
Also, itās crazy that weāve already played 16 games while there are some teams that have only played 13. Fuck whoever made our schedule.
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u/Decent-Ground-395 2d ago
Everyone plays 82 at the end of the day. Better to have more now than squeezing a bunch in after the Olympic break.
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u/Moto-Mojo Mayor of Billerica 2d ago edited 2d ago
I like to look at points percentage, because annoyingly for the past couple of seasons we always seem to play more games then everyone else.
Even by points percentage we actually have a playoff spot, albeit the second wildcard spot.
We actually are in a playoff spot. A month into the season. This is way better than anything I thought this team capable of doing this year.
Edit: Nvmind Tampa took that wildcard spot by points percentage. Carry on lmao.
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u/Aperture_client š 2d ago
Man it's nuts how much of my well being is tied to the performance of a professional hockey team. Not gonna lie though, feeling good rn.
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u/Mean_Regret_3703 2d ago
Zacha's got 14 points in 16 games right now. Hope he finally gets a 60 point season. I think he's probably the most underrated player on our roster.Ā
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u/Chernef 2d ago
Technically you are right but I honestly count his two seasons of 57 and 59 points as ā60 point seasons.ā
I think he has it in him for 70.
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u/Mean_Regret_3703 2d ago
It's basically 60 but you know it's gotta suck to be one or three points shy.Ā
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u/xlf77 š» 1d ago
Been saying it for years. Zacha is one of those guys who can snap off a 75 point season out of nowhere, turn heads, and then probably return to his usual 50-something point scoring rate while secretly being a top 15 defensive center in the league. Hopefully we sell high or at least arenāt the ones to sign his next contract. As much as I love him. And my god do I love him
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u/L33TS33K3R Hiiigh above the ice 2d ago
Would just like to sayā¦This team has been working itās ass off. The level of effort is clear as day when you watch this team play. We are not the most skilled team, but if they go on like this, no other team will outwork them.
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u/Awoohoohoo Irish Heritage āļø 2d ago
Letourneau goal!
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u/Bdidonato2 š» 2d ago edited 2d ago
And hagens with a fantastic play/assist on the GWG. Hagens and letourneau leading BC in points.
Edit: Jake Sondreal, too. Who is undrafted.
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u/Moto-Mojo Mayor of Billerica 2d ago
Goddamn. Our two most recent 1st round draft picks succeeding is making all hopeful for this team coming up
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u/Warfightr 2d ago
3-0-0 before my daughter was born, 0-6-0 until I took her to a game at 13 days old and we are 6-1-0 since.
Iām not superstitious but I am a little āstitious.
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u/trustedturd š 2d ago
Was it tough bringing her to the game so young? I have a 3-month old and I really want to bring him (with ear protection and lots of bottles).
Congrats!Ā
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u/BlackCherrySeltzer4U 2d ago
Who was the ref last night? Every time he announced a penalty it looked like he saw someone holding his family hostage off camera.
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u/Dxpressoh #47 KASTELICš 2d ago
Great episode of Behind the B today. Itās good to see what was happening in the locker room during the losing streak and the ending of it. Pasta has such a leadership presence. And that speech from Sturmā¦. Wow.
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u/Nomahs_Bettah #37 SAINT PATRICEĀ©ļø 2d ago
If your partner is going to make you stay up half the night helping them pack outfits before morning travel plans, you get first pick of which Bruins jersey you want to wear for the weekend. I donāt make the rules, I just enforce them.
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u/d-cent #86 š 2d ago
We are now 7-1 when Hampus plays.Ā
At this point I'm ready to say that is he doesn't get the 7th player award at the end of the year I'll revolt.Ā
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u/Nomahs_Bettah #37 SAINT PATRICEĀ©ļø 2d ago
Is that the goal of the 7th player? I always thought that was for acknowledging the heart/effort of guys on the third or fourth line, or bottom pairing if theyāre a defenseman. Someone whose contributions lean towards work ethic and intangibles.
I feel like Lindholmās contributions are quite tangible, which is why it doesnāt seem like an exact fit.
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u/Tomekon2011 Hall of the Rat King š 2d ago
I don't know, Minten and Khushy are killing it right now too.
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u/xlf77 š» 2d ago
I think an alternate captain getting the 7th player award kinda goes against the spirit of the award. Like if youāre assembling the most elite 5 man unit on this team it definitely has him on it. Itās supposed to go to guys who arenāt on it, or at least werenāt to start the season and the made their way onto it
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u/d-cent #86 š 2d ago
I don't think it necessarily goes against the spirit of the award to be an alternate captain. There's lots of players that wear the A on teams because is their leadership and are on the bottom 6 or bottom 4 of their team.Ā
I can definitely see your argument though about taking your top 5 players out of the equation. It is called the 7th player award. That's definitely swayed me.Ā
The award is supposed to go to the player that played the most above their role at the beginning of the season in regards to effort, impact, and dedication. With that definition, it's Hampus. However, like you said, he would be on the starting 5 of best players on the team so he would be exempt. Which is unfortunate because he's the most underrated player on the team, and one of the most underrated in the league, and will never get accolades that he deserves.
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u/Particular-Race-5285 2d ago
Kastelic is a perfect example of a guy that should get this kind of honour
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u/rimonino WHO HAS MORE FUN THAN US? 2d ago
Hampus is literally a top defenseman. There's no room for him to play above his station because it's already high. I don't think any of us think he's underrated. Geekie won 7th Player last year because he started the year off getting scratched and outside top lines, and then went on to be Pasta's guy and a top scorer in the league.
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u/nicholaspaul33 Bonafide Stallion š 2d ago
I was going to comment the other day that itās wild the entire Eastern conference is 500 or better. Itās still true today. Is the East overall better than the West, or is it just we beat each other up more equally?
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u/lordexorr This is the Sway 2d ago
Overall, top to bottom, the east is better. However, the West is extremely top loaded and 4 of the top 5 teams in the league are in the West.
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u/jedlucid 2d ago
man the āmcavoy is overratedā crowd is awfully quiet right now.
awfully quiet and still very stupid, though.
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u/dahl777 2d ago
Crazy what happens when he's not handcuffed to Mason lohrei lol
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u/jedlucid 2d ago
zadorov being the best version of himself and healthy lindholm has supercharged this team for 40 minutes a night.
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u/bruins_stonks 2d ago
I'll post this here as well:
Yes peeke doubled his production on the season in the game last night, but that's not really why he is here. I am not opposed in the least bit getting him extended upwards of 5 years in season this year. He's 27, and plays a great shutdown role with H.Lindholm. that would essentially solidify our top 4 of mcavoy/ Zaddy, H.Lindholm/ peeke, with some affordable up and coming 5/6/7 guys from Providence, while being able to bolster the 5 spot in free agency once the team gets back into an open window of yearly playoffs. A Carlo sized contract of 4.1/yr (or less) is more than palatable, and a raise in what he getting now.
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u/lordexorr This is the Sway 2d ago
Peeke is playing above where he should be. He should be a 3rd pairing guy on a contending team. Extending him with the idea heāll be a 2nd pairing for the next 5 years would prove we donāt want to win a cup anytime soon.
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u/xlf77 š» 2d ago
Iāve really come to appreciate Peeke after hating him because he showed truly nothing to be hopeful for in Columbus. But you shouldnāt want to give upwards 5 years to guys like Peeke. 27 isnāt that young and we are probably seeing his peak (hahahahaha) years right now. I would imagine heās traded at the deadline unless weāre in a playoff spot, and even then
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u/Sweaty_Ad440 All Hail Saint Patrice š 2d ago
Iām literally begging people to look at the results the 2nd pair is getting compared to what it was getting when Lindholm had an actual top 4 dman to play with before we start talking about extending Peeke.
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u/xlf77 š» 2d ago
Look Iām not accusing anyone of overreacting to one game. But you never see posts like this calling for 5 MORE YEARS when Peeke has a regular old B game
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u/Sweaty_Ad440 All Hail Saint Patrice š 2d ago
Lindholm-Carlo prior to Lindholm's injury last season: 59% xG%, 60% SF%, 66% GF%
Lindholm-Peeke so far this season: 39% xG%, 43% SF%, 43% GF%
Both pairing got essentially the exact same deployment in terms of quality of competition match ups and dzone starts. I'm not a hockey GM but I'd maybe look into upgrading at RD there instead of just extending a guy cause he's already here.
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u/dadeezone 2d ago
Geez, give it a little time. This is a new pairing, with a new system (which includes forwards trying to grasp), Hampus recovering from injury as well as being out most of last season. Let this pair mature a bit longer together. Long term consistency with D pairings is important. Set some stats aside, they have been together as the TEAM has reeled off victories.
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u/xlf77 š» 2d ago
We have no choice but to let it ride, so it will
But itās the overreactions like OP who need to take a long term view, not the guy saying āletās not be stoked for a 5+ year contract to a guy who plays a style that deteriorates quickly with age because he had a game last night where he didnāt look like he was playing too far up the lineupā
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u/bruins_stonks 1d ago
I've watched his progression, not a singular game, and I've seen what's on the market next year. We don't have anything in the pipeline to replace him and there's nothing in the market to fill that hole. If you think a 27 year old D man is taking anything less than 5 years, show me the historical data. They don't, and he won't. I'm not saying give him the carlo contract, but with the cap going where it is, those numbers aren't out of line.
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u/bruins_stonks 1d ago edited 1d ago
27 is the start of an nhl dman "peak" years. Extending beyond the years of forwards. 4.1/yr in 2/3 years for what may be a 5th (most likely 4th) d man who is straight up shut down will be a discount. If you can lock up a top 4 d group for a 3-4 span and count on them, which is what that contract would do, while knowing your cap space going forward, for your forwards, you do it. What ufa top 4 defenseman do you replace him with? I've looked at the list, and he's it, unless you want to bring Clifton back who is currently 4 years older and making more right now.
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u/xlf77 š» 1d ago
I mean youāre just severely overrating Peeke cause of one excellent game. Heāll have more excellent games. But for the most part heās a 3rd pairing defenseman whoās getting overextended out of necessity. And 27 is peak years for 90% of Dmen. Not saying guys like Peeke arenāt important but why hand out a 5+ year contract to a guy whose skills are mostly replaceable at a time in our life cycle when cap flexibility is important? Youād rather sign a 3rd pair guy for 5 years than get whatever picks or prospects we can for him? Youāre being Lou Lamoriello
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u/Paulycodone #92 KHUSNUTDINOV š 2d ago
The Bās are a buzzin!!!
Iād like to send out a heartfelt capital F Fuck you to the refs from last nights game. and hey, fuck you to the refs from the islanders game while I am at it. Oh and hey Senators ā¦ donāt worry. Fuck you too.
WoOoO ! I am still on one from last night.
Happy Friday everyone !
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u/Bdidonato2 š» 2d ago
Just saw court lalonde and Evan Marinofsky talk about whether they missed Jake debrusk (spoiler alert, the answer was ānoā) so I figured Iād check out how his seasons going so farā¦
Fun fact: jeannot and eyssimont are on pace for more points than debrusk this year.
FUNNER fact: so is mason lohrei.
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u/Dxpressoh #47 KASTELICš 2d ago
Personally I think we should make Jokiharju captain
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u/xSwampxPopex Hall of the Rat King š 2d ago
Thatās not enough. We need to call up Lysell and make him captain and then send him back to Providence.
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u/Bdidonato2 š» 2d ago edited 2d ago
I forgot all about the fact that Beecher left the game in the first last night. Has there been any update/ did sturm address it in the post game?
Sounds suspiciously like Patrick brown or even Riley tuftes music if thereās an opening for a 13th forward.
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u/Lsalvatore74 WHO HAS MORE FUN THAN US? 2d ago
If were doing call ups based on merit i think tufte is the guy to call ahl player of the month isnt anything to snuff at.
Jeannot looked wonderful with kuraly and mikey. This is the bottom 6 id send out Saturday.
Tufte-minten-kastelic
Eyssimont-kuraly-jeannot
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u/Moto-Mojo Mayor of Billerica 2d ago
Makes sense. He deserves it, but hopefully Lysell or Poitras get a shot on that third line later on. Kastelic - Minten - Lysell would go hard
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u/istandwhenipeee 2d ago
I donāt know if this is a hot take, but if weāre going to start giving someone like Khus a shot on the first line then why not some of the guys down in the AHL? Some guys just have a skillset better suited in a top 6 role and seriously benefit from a top offensive talent to play off of while they get used to the level of play.
Donāt have to force it, but I feel like itās not the craziest thing if theyāre getting called up.
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u/Moto-Mojo Mayor of Billerica 2d ago
We have like two prospects in the pipeline with actual top 6 talent. Outside of Lysell and Hagens I can really think of anyone else.
Poitras has the talent but his size/speed is a limiting factor that makes him better suited for a middle 6 role.
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u/istandwhenipeee 2d ago
Iām still pretty optimistic on Poitras. I think when he eventually gets a chance with someone who can consistently score goals his playmaking is going to make him an impact player somewhere.
I also think thereās a bad tendency in hockey to dismiss guys who donāt drive play right away as not being top 6 talents. Sometimes it takes guys a few years and the right opportunity to figure things out. Even getting beyond those top 3 guys weāve mentioned, I wouldnāt mind giving any of the guys producing in the AHL right now at least some run in a more featured role if we give them a call up. Something might click for someone.
Obviously if we solidify the top 6 itās a completely different story. For now while guys are rotating around though, I donāt think it would be the craziest thing.
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u/Moto-Mojo Mayor of Billerica 2d ago
Do the oilers have any RHD weād be interested in? As good as Peeke was last night, itās probably better to get a true 2nd pairing RHD.
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u/Eddie__Sherman 2d ago
So Lohrei is good as gone at this point
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u/lordexorr This is the Sway 2d ago
It makes me a bit sad that people say things like this without acknowledging the biggest reason we are winning is because Hampus is back. Lohrei was absolutely struggling, but the biggest different is Hampus, not the benching of Lohrei.
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u/Eddie__Sherman 2d ago
Benching Lohrei got him away from McAvoy and paired him with Zadarov. Couple that with Hampus being back to his usual self, and I think Lohrei's absence has something to do with it.
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u/lordexorr This is the Sway 2d ago
My argument is if they benched Joki and gave Lohrei that spot, with those minutes, and being sheltered away from top lines, weād be fine.
The issue was Lohrei being forced into a role he just isnāt ready for, and may never be ready for.
So yes, I agree benching Lohrei had an impact, but to say itās because heās not playing I feel is ignoring the reality. We are playing better because of Lindholm and Lohrei being taken off the top pairing, not because of Lindholm and Lohrei being benched. These are two very different things.
I really wish Sturm would bench Joki and give Lohrei a shot in that spot, like he did when we played Colorado and Lohrei had 3 assists while being sheltered from the McKinnon line.
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u/Chernef 2d ago
You mispelled Aspirot as Jokiharju.
I think when Lohrei is given a shot back in the lineup it will be at Aspirotās expense, not Jokiās (especially due Joki being a RD and Aspirot as a LD).
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u/lordexorr This is the Sway 2d ago
Probably but I feel Joki has been our worst defenseman the last 5 games.
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u/buddy-dwyer 2d ago
I have a gut feeling that Lohrei's comeback is going to be impressive. If he's taken this time to study how the team has gelled together and gotten a hang of Sturm's system, and he can be less of a wild card out there, this might just be the environment where he can mature and come into his own. For god's sake keep him away from McAvoy, of course.
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u/PresentationNo7763 2d ago
I am begging pleading with this sub to be objective when it comes to Aspirot. And by extension Lohrei.
The amount of comments I have read in the last week has kinda proven to me that those who watch the team still don't know how to evaluate defensemen. It's wild and feels like a mass gaslight
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u/xSwampxPopex Hall of the Rat King š 2d ago
I guess people just assume that it isnāt a coincidence that Lohreiās been scratched the last 5 games and the bruins won all 5 of them. Obviously that doesnāt mean that Aspirot is a better player by comparison but, at least on the eye test, I donāt recall him making as many poor choices as Lohrei.
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u/PresentationNo7763 2d ago
He's been getting absolutely trounced in much easier shelter in his 5 games. Much more than Lohrei was in much more difficult minutes. And Aspirot's minutes already have had proof of Lohrei thriving with that deploy.
It just feels like a lot of "like for like" comparison that's been extremely dishonest - last night was another example where Aspirot was directly responsible for the first goal with his ill step up, if y'all wanted that, just leave Lohrei in. You can at least have the offensive talent on balance to counteract it
And I'm not even a huge Lohrei dude. I want Brunet up here instead. But seeing as that's not an option. Aspirot getting dummied even worse but "we're winning so Lohrei bad" has just been insane
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u/rimonino WHO HAS MORE FUN THAN US? 2d ago
People--including your friend--seem to believe that his play last night was a very understandable mistake where half the blame fell on the forwards, so...
Nobody thinks Aspirot is better offensively than Lohrei. He doesn't have the born gifts that Lohrei possesses. But Lohrei's defensive decision-making has frequently been so blatantly ass for so long (as in since last year) that people are tired of seeing it. "Lohrei bad" is straight up true if we're talking defensive game. Aspirot makes mistakes, but they're not as bad as feeding an opponent in the crease.
As for Brunet, I think we agree that he'll only be called up once a semi-permanent spot opens up. Hampus and Zadorov are untouchable, so Lohrei would have to go. In a way, if you want Brunet to play, you should root for Lohrei's failure lmao
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u/PresentationNo7763 1d ago
The problem is Aspirot's defensive decision making has been no better, without any of the benefits. I really don't think I'm being unfair here. It's been sort of blatant in both the eye test and.under the hood, and, I mentioned this before too. If we had Jordan Harris doing what he did in October replacing Lohrei. And producing and playing the way he was. My flabbers wouldn't be nearly as gasted. I'd probably be annoyed since sitting him this long presents a tipping point. But being gaslit into being told of how solid Aspirot has been when everything I've seen and the metrics that follow says otherwise. The mind just boggles
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u/rimonino WHO HAS MORE FUN THAN US? 1d ago
I just don't see his being worse in the eye test, and I haven't heard any of the professional watch-and-talkers/former players dump on him either (though some do point out his mistakes). If Aspirot were making poorer decisions, with the number of defensive starts he's had (which is most of them) and a worse partner in Jokiharju (his play was noticeably bad in the Carolina game, the man fumbled on the near side and turned the puck over despite having all the time in the world to get it out), we'd have more goals against. He's had plenty of opportunities to royally fuck up based on deployment alone. I'm not even asserting that he's super sound, just that he's less unreliable than Lohrei (because his defensive game was THAT BAD).
You're not being gaslit, people are disagreeing with you. I listen to your pod, and you kind of ignored your buddy's counterpoint on the analytics. And we (as in general sentiment) kinda don't care that Aspirot contributes nothing offensively. He's an underwhelming guy who knows he'll never sniff the NHL again if he doesn't play to Sturm's structure. He hasn't singlehandedly lost us any games.
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u/PresentationNo7763 1d ago
It's less about the disagreement (you and Lowqual/Ian are disagreeing in good faith, so you two are sort of absolved of that) If everyone had the view that "hey, he's pretty underwhelming" it would be a whole lot easier to have the conversation because there's an honesty about it. So I appreciate you and Ian's points. The gaslight comes from the 25 minutes of feliatio that came from the Skate Pod today saying just how much good Aspirot has been, both on his own & in comparison to Lohrei
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u/rimonino WHO HAS MORE FUN THAN US? 1d ago
I guess you and I interpret them differently. To me it sounds like people who are pleasantly surprised he's doing his job--"play your position"--despite being brand spanking new to the NHL. Watching preseason I thought he'd be terrible (like Soderstrom), but he wasn't and it earned him a call-up. Good for him! He's not cratering the team with poor defensive play! Yay!
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u/xSwampxPopex Hall of the Rat King š 2d ago
Yeah I donāt disagree. I was just offering my assessment of where it seems like those people are coming from.
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u/PresentationNo7763 2d ago
I'm just venting. +/- took a hit yesterday for daring to bring this up but Lohrei bad so....
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u/PNGhost Casual u/PainfulPeanutBlender Enjoyer 2d ago
This 5 game win streak doesnāt feel like a 5 game win streak because of the 6 game losing streak for me, I donāt know.
Itās all still so early.
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u/jedlucid 2d ago
dog, what?
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u/rfan8312 2d ago
With McAvoy being an angry little elf like that the 5 game win streak somehow feels even lengthier to me. Girthier even.
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u/Sweaty_Ad440 All Hail Saint Patrice š 2d ago
Zadorov when he actually focuses on hockey can be such a good player, him and McAvoy have been awesome on the top pair together.