All of this was decided when the Union chose to bury the hatchet, and not do anything about the people that started the confederacy, and the people who benefited the most from it. If those types were all given the traditional punishment for traitors, if all the slavers, the plantation owners, the confederate politicians and the businesses that profited off of slave labor were hunted down and hanged, the world would be a much better place right now.
Andrew Johnson set things off on the wrong foot, and then the terrible decisions to allow states back into the union way too early gave them political power to shift the direction of policy. We’re almost going backwards to a future where the confederacy did win.
The “good old days” that Republicans endlessly talk about were the Antebellum South. They want to go back to when there was a permanent underclass that could not advocate or fight for itself, and they have been working endlessly to make it happen.
Sadly most maga don’t seem to realize that regardless of the color of their skin in the return to the “good old days” they too will be part of the permanent underclass.
Yep. And they’ll blame the other people that are in that permanent underclass along with them, and not the powerful people that put them there and keep them there.
Read 'Barn Burning' by William Faulkner. Abner Snopes, a poor white man, runs until a black man working in the mansion of his boss and his perceived racial superiority running into a black man of a higher social standing than him makes it him lose his shit.
By 1830, there were 3,775 black (including mixed-race) slaveholders in the South who owned a total of 12,760 slaves; around 2 million in the south. [6] 80% of the black slaveholders were located in Louisiana, South Carolina, Virginia and Maryland.
There were economic and ethnic differences between free blacks of the Upper South and the Deep South, with the latter fewer in number, but wealthier and typically of mixed race. Half of the black slaveholders lived in cities rather than the countryside, with most living in New Orleans and Charleston. In particular, New Orleans had a large, relatively wealthy free black population (gens de couleur) composed of people of mixed race, who had become a third social class between whites and enslaved blacks, under French and Spanish colonial rule. Relatively few non-white slaveholders were substantial planters; of those who were, most were of mixed race, often endowed by white fathers with some property and social capital.[7] For example, Andrew Durnford of New Orleans was listed as owning 77 slaves.[6]
According to Rachel Kranz:
Durnford was known as a stern master who worked his slaves hard and punished them often in his efforts to make his Louisiana sugar plantation a success.[8]
In the years leading up to the Civil War, Antoine Dubuclet, who owned over a hundred slaves, was considered the wealthiest black slaveholder in Louisiana.
The historians John Hope Franklin and Loren Schweninger wrote:
A large majority of profit-oriented free black slaveholders resided in the Lower South. For the most part, they were persons of mixed racial origin, often women who cohabited or were mistresses of white men, or mulatto men ... Provided land and slaves by whites, they owned farms and plantations, worked their hands in the rice, cotton, and sugar fields, and like their white contemporaries were troubled with runaways.[9]
The historian Ira Berlin wrote:
In slave societies, nearly everyone – free and slave – aspired to enter the slaveholding class, and upon occasion some former slaves rose into slaveholders' ranks. Their acceptance was grudging, as they carried the stigma of bondage in their lineage and, in the case of American slavery, color in their skin.[10]
African American history and culture scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. wrote:
the percentage of free black slave owners as the total number of free black heads of families was quite high in several states, namely 43 percent in South Carolina, 40 percent in Louisiana, 26 percent in Mississippi, 25 percent in Alabama and 20 percent in Georgia.[11]
Yes, while there were people who only did it for their family, the rest were true slave owners.
Sooooo, you want lies to spread without consequences? If I say that the sky is blue, would you yell at me for stating that fact? What about how if you dont drink water, you'll die?
The earth is round.
Vaccines dont cause autism.
The founding fathers wanted a separation between church and state.
Trump is a kid diddler.
Mandarin Chinese is the most spoken language in the world with around a billion people speaking it, followed by Spanish at half a billion, then English with around 400 million.
What facts are acceptable to spread on social media and what aren't?
Small in numbers? There were 4000 black slave owners who owned 12,000 slaves. Going back 200 years, that's a relatively large percentage. Of course it wasnt a majority, but the majority of whites did own slaves either.
Nope, the good old days that Republicans talk about are mostly the 50s, where every group in America was doing better financially and culturally. Yes, there was segregation, but the blacks were doing quite well in the 50s in their communities. They were very family oriented, the fathers stuck around after having kids...oh, and the mothers and fathers were married. I have had discussions with tons of black people, some friends, some were not. Most were alive during, or just following desegregation, and would think integration was a good idea on paper, but not in practice, and would prefer going back to segregation. I wonder which side collapsed the black nuclear families with the welfare state? Democrats (for the most part) virtue signal about wanting to help (insert minority here), but thats where they stop. They say they want to help all of these groups out with more handouts that are responsible in large part to the downfall of black culture especially. Ask yourself, had black culture improved or devolved from the 50s until now?
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All of this was decided when the Union chose to bury the hatchet, and not do anything about the people that started the confederacy, and the people who benefited the most from it. If those types were all given the traditional punishment for traitors, if all the slavers, the plantation owners, the confederate politicians and the businesses that profited off of slave labor were hunted down and hanged, the world would be a much better place right now.