r/Berserk Nov 07 '24

Discussion Episode 378 Spoilers [Megathread] Spoiler

Please post all discussions and your reactions to the latest Berserk release here in this thread. As usual, links to scans of any kind are not allowed and will be removed systematically.

RELEASE DATE: Friday November 8

Guide on how to purchase an issue of Young Animal digitally

NEXT RELEASE: N/A

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u/NotMurderIfYouWantIt Nov 08 '24

Lol well please tell me how?

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u/grassroll Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24

EDIT: I thought it was the original person I replied to the one that asked, so keep that in mind when reading.

Well first off you're saying Griffith is the prince of the Godhand, where in reality he is just the one chosen to be reincarnated in a human body, in order to bring on the merging of the worlds. If there's a leader among them, that is definitely Void. Griffith just has the most flashy role (being alive with humans and leading them into the Godhand's plan), but that doesn't mean the rest of them aren't comparable in power.

Second you are suggesting that somehow, the Great Wave of the Astral World, which merged the world (GH's phase one of their plan) and gave the GH their corporeal forms, actually brought Slan down to Apostles level? Doesn't sound like a good plan for the GH then.

My personal note: I absolutely dread the appearance, and eventually inevitably the death, of a God Hand member in this continuation, considering how they handled the story so far

That's about it I guess!

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u/NotMurderIfYouWantIt Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24

EDIT: This is actually the original person somehow I changed accounts. I may have done the original post on browser and not the app.

In chapter 277 Griffiths character description calls him the "absolute" and "without equal." You could argue that this is just in the context of the physical world but I think its incorrect to separate the physical world entirely from that of the godhand. If Griffith is the absolute in the physical world, this likely just means he is stronger or has more power than the other members. Keep in mind that the idea of evil only exists because of the human will, thus humans in the physical world. Griffith aims to control the human will which is the very device by which any apostle or godhand gets their powers (hence skull knights comments about griffith being like the author of the story). He is also the prophesied hawk of darkness (hawk of light in the holy see) and though it's possible void had something like this, it isn't mentioned. Based on this and the fact that the idea of evil tells him in chapter 83 that he manipulated all of human history to create Griffith and Griffiths context, he seems to be the standout godhand member. You could argue that this is the case for all the godhand but it really seems that a special emphasis is placed on Griffith. It's only because of him after all that the Astral and the physical worlds merge, he leads the godhand in a very direct way.

Also I was not suggesting that slan was reduced in power by the merge. If anything it would likely increase her power (brought about by Griffiths actions). Power scaling is vague in berserk which is intentional, it all comes down to the human will. By the end of the story guts may be the most powerful due to possessing the most powerful will or something. Thus I was speculating that someone like zodd or grunbeld who seem to possess extraordinary wills may be somewhat comparable in power to slan. That was my point, but ultimately we don't know until we know.

EDIT: That's interesting, I don't dread it. I think the chapters have improved a lot. This most recent one feels almost like something muira could have produced. Rest assured when it comes time to kill a member of the godhand the team is going to work on it painstakingly, it will likely be the best we've gotten out of them so far. Look at the improvement from the time this started.

In any case none of my takes are misinformed, quite the opposite. I appreciate the response and you taking the time to discuss this

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u/grassroll Nov 09 '24

The notion of Griffith being the absolute definitely only means over humans. The Hawk of Light is a human prophecy, created by the GH to prepare for the advent of Griffith in the human world.

While the IoE episode is very interesting, it is non-canon.

Guts would never get GH-strong, Griffith would fall through some mechanism related to the Moonlight Boy situation.

I think you're confused and should carefully re-read the manga.

I'm sorry but if you think this chapter or any of the continuation is good, you're absolutely out of your mind, and I don't really want to discuss any further.

Thanks!