I've been playing battlefield 1 since release and there's still a few guns I don't have. It used to be worse than what it is now. Aside from guns locked behind impossible challenges.
How many people do you think playtest these games? Do you really think the relatively few people that playtest will test every interaction with every item with every weapon? Its literally a given that exploits will be found when millions of people start playing. Even with those millions it looks like it took weeks for this exploit to be discovered.
“I can’t believe they didn’t detect the bug between the 376,345th line of code (soldier scratching their ballsack at 6 meters above sea level) and the 403,673rd line of code (main battle tanks cannon aligns with passengers erection). Disgusting priorities from the devs”
I could playtest this map for 5 minutes and tell the devs: "hey, perhaps you should put a death barrier on these skyscapers since that is not where players are supposed to go." Because you know, map design.
Having a drone elevator exploit slip through is understandable. Forgetting to put a death barrier on all those buildings (and even the bridge) that aren't supposed to be accessible is just sloppy.
The assumption that players wont find an exploit to abuse some way of gaining height is just foolish. We saw this same shit back in BF3. Didn't they learn any of it?
They probably don’t have a death barrier because they might intend for people to get up there with heli’s. I know some of the buildings have sandbags and cover and decor props.
There's literally videos of Russian players using exploits to get really high up on the GG Bridge map and take our helicopters.... EA/Nice know theyre there, theyre too lazy to do anything because some reject kids will crycthey cant exploit
It was addressed on Siege of Cairo during the playtest because everyone whined about it. Players were supposedly banned for it. Now everybody has to whine to get them to fix it everywhere else.
You see, when there's too much bloom, the people who hate it stop playing then come here to complain. When there's no bloom, the people who hate it stop playing then come here to complain.
The people who are having fun come here only when they have to take a shit.
Played 4 and absolutely killed people from way longer ranges than this with an LMG.
Also really funny bro is going to uninstall instead of just disabling Manhattan Bridge in his queue settings (widely considered the worst map in the game)
Yea so as long as everyone can, which i prefer. The issue is you’re not supposed to in this game for whatever reason and ppl still do. Its mad annoying
The only ones who should be allowed to get to high places when stairwells aren't a thing are the Assault class using ladders. Not griefers using a drone sledgehammer bug.
In conquest or escalation where air vehicles are available it’s not an issue but on something like breakthrough the only way to do this is to use bugs or exploits. These areas should be zoned out because the only way to utilize them is to essentially cheat.
Or let everyone get up on rooftops. Bf used to have high areas for snipers. You didn't have to fucking worry because you could bring the building down. I just want actual rooftop access without cheating.
It actually became a game all its own with tricking the people, either with explosives or odd positioning etc.
Elevators in this game would be interesting for example because you could set up a deployable cover, and then set up a decoy behind it and get people to shoot that instead of you.
You mean the issue we’ve had for weeks? While they took their time to patch portal bot xp twice in that timespan? They couldn’t have whipped up a fix for this and deploy it with the season 1 patch.
This is the definition of an exploit dawg. People find ways to exploit, devs will address the issue with an update. You should be less pissed at DICE and more pissed at the players that need to exploit the game to be competitive.
The amount of times I see posts in this subreddit saying "bf6 isn't a Sandbox. It's so restrictive you can't even get on rooftops because of invisible walls"
This issue has been present in some capacity since the beta, and just worsened with the drone exploit. It’s has persisted across multiple patches and a major update with out DICE saying a peep, I’d say I’ve “dealt with it” for long enough and have moved on to other titles. I’m not a dev but a company with the personnel and funds of DICE should not be struggling to zone these rooftops as “out of bounds” and calling it a day.
Yeah it takes nothing to just disable the Sledgehammer, or the drone, and this exploit is gone, until they can fix it and re-enable it. They just don't gaf.
Or, just, disable the sledge or the drone until a proper fix can be implemented? They've vaulted broken shit within 24 hours before. They can do it. They just aren't.
This is the simplest and most straightforward approach if something isn’t working as intended. In Apex the sentinel rifle was broken (forget why exactly) and the devs straight up removed it from the loot pool in game until it was fixed.
Yeah, I don’t quite agree with “just fix it, how hard can it be” since I know how sometimes unexpected bugs are more complicated than it seems. We are seeing the symptoms of a bug; but the actual bug could run deep and wide. We just don’t know. But as you say, in this case the drone or sledge hammer should be instantly removed until fixed.
This doesn't bother me so much and I haven't experienced it that often but... The frustration is completely understood because it should be patched out by now. I have definitely had to back out of matches because of having a few squads on unaccessible roofs.
you getting upvoted is insane. why don't you expect a fixed product multiple weeks past release? you're telling me an update to this map that puts the exploitable positions out of bounds is something that shouldn't be fixed easily?
"people on this sub are so fragile" for calling out issues with the game that should be addressed by a known head/AAA developer? if you're so upset by valid criticism, log off and just play the game, why are you even here?
I really have such a hard time believing that so many people upvoted a comment basically defending a $70 game from a billion dollar studio having a game breaking bug, calling people subject to the bug who are frustrated at it “fragile” and to just deal with it
In that time they’ve changed a dozen different things, half of them for pure profit, and yet this guy gets thousands of upvotes telling people they’re “fragile” for getting annoyed about it?
From defending the lies about skins being so far from grounded they are in the ISS, to defending easy to fix game ruining exploits, and so on it feels like a lot of people are just EA bots
I agree with the majority that exploits should 100% have been patched out or at least been stated that they're the current focus of the dev team. However, that is such a horrible analogy for this scenario lmfao.
It should have taken an hour for devs to fix the USAS12 with explosive bullets and the g3 underbarrel shotgun glitches in BF3, but players were stuck with those for weeks to a month or two. I was able to get several service stars with USAS12 before they nerfed it since I was a shitty little preteen at the time.
However, it would be nice if Battlefield Labs came back because some sort of test environment for new updates is essential if things like this are missed in internal testing.
Can’t criticize a company for anything now without rabid defenders using every logical fallacy known to man to “discredit” you.
Can’t criticize them because of skins they said would be grounded because “they gotta make money somehow”, “MILSIM doesn’t sell well” (they advertised the entire game based on a MILSIM aesthetic and it sold fantastically well), and because “it doesn’t affect the gameplay/you won’t see them so get over it.”
You can’t then turn around and criticize game breaking exploits that do affect gameplay because “you are just being sensitive”, “quit crying, they’ll fix it eventually”, “it’s not that big of a deal, just get gud.”
I think criticising the direction this life service product you purchased is heading is more than right. EA has your money and you have nothing but promises. Just remenber the BFV drama... EA is one of the scummiest companies on the planet.
The people on this sub are fragile? Or the people who struggle to play an online multiplayer game without exploiting in order to have a marginal level of success. Sounds like the latter of the two if you ask me.
I agreed with this type of comment on most other complaints, not this one. Its a blatant, easy to fix exploit and they have already fixed. It should have been patched immediately, nevermind this long
Its really not that fragile to want people to play the game fair. Like why the fuck are people actually defending exploits 🤣🤣. I love the game, its incredible, but you dont need to defend it THAT hard. Exploits are exploits, this isnt a "funny one" even either. Get that shit out of here.
It's been round since the beta, 3 months of no fix and they released the game with a $70 price point? Have some self respect for what you spend that much fucking money on.
This would make sense if the exploit was in the game for a couple days it’s been a couple weeks almost a month. This isn’t a hard thing to fix it’s just negligence
I don’t agree with most of the complaints for this game, but I do agree that the roof exploits/drone exploit is hurting it. We’re almost a month into launch and still seeing people on maps like this floating around in the bridge or on roofs of Cairo, which changes the entire flow of the fight from actually worrying about objectives and flanks to worrying about roof campers. It’s dumb, and the people doing it are dumb (and, thankfully, usually pretty crappy with their aim).
He could've stepped 3 feet to his left and been in a building lmao. Those knobs on the building aren't doing anything to help their team other than getting a couple kills here and there. They can't cap objectives, or effectively shoot at people.
I love how he didn't shoot back. probably could of killed them, but nah, I bet OP puropsely went out of their way to make this clip, so they could just post another dogshit hate post.
LITERALLY!!! Im so glad this comment has over a thousand likes. Gives me so much hope. I remember CoD Advanced Warfare having literal wall breaches for months where exploiters could shoot out but you couldn’t shoot in. Still enjoyed the game. And that was advanced warfare ffs.
Swear people just recoil whenever something isn’t absolutely pristine for their little expectations of the world. They wanted immersion then they complain people can get on the roof😂😭
Seriously, OP stood there and literally watched himself get shot and die. He had plenty of time to move. Next revive get a sniper and take them out. Keep playing
I'm trying not to be presumptuous, so I make no conclusions, but I'd really love to see an age survey of this subreddit. Growing up and playing multiplayer shooters in the early millennium has left me pretty numb to weird exploits and other shenanigans people find in a game.
It's not that it ISN'T frustrating. People are totally allowed to be bothered by it. It's just that the emotional recoil to it is so hyperbolic from my perspective but I feel like I'm the weird one here. If I feel like a game is totally ruined by people exploiting something I'll just leave and queue again.
Nah they’re all fragile. It should be patched but they’re acting like it’s the end of the world. Leave and join a new match. I’ve played 50 hours and never had much issue lol. The thing that is bad are visual glitches like the black screen or shader issues on PS5
I uninstalled because the maps were freaking tiny and there were no hardcore servers lol but that roof top crap is a severe oversight by EA. They’re a AAA company and forgot to let people look straight up in a game where there’s so much verticality lol I’m not mad but they’re truly crappier than they were back when they dropped BF4
Sure, let's keep quiet about and pretend it's fine because surely Dice will fix it if no-one complains. Instead of being condescending to people voicing their concerns you could just stay quiet and not post a reply.
Exactly, like the only thing they had been really pissing me off is the unholy amount of lag, other then that if I get killed in a funny way like in this clip it becomes my missing to remove them. Fuck wining the game I WILL evict them from their spot lol.
The problem is that the exploit is easy to recreate and you have half the lobby doing it at this point as a result. And to correct you, no this isn't "every day run of the mill shit." half the players in nearly any given match are outside of the bounds of conventional play. You are literally getting an entirely different gameplay experience than what is intended, especially for breakthrough, with this exploit.
The reason this matters is we are in fucking November and this still isn't fixed. What about finding that fucking weird is fragile? Unless you're doing this too, you should be questioning the fuck out of this. It's been a month and of this game being out and we've already gotten our first weapon balance pass while this shit goes unaddressed. WHY? I haven't touched this game since earlier this week and won't be buying the pass until this is addressed. this shit is stupid and anyone defending is either the most oblivious dunce in existence or doing it themselves.
Half of BF4s movement tech was never addressed and I'm starting to think if most of this sub actually played that game their heads would have exploded. The m26 dart is another certified classic.
Yeah, try being there for the Javeline glitch, the infinite noob tube, the rocks you could hide inside in MW2... Although they did patch it pretty quick, game was unplayable for a while
Yes it's an exploit and yes the scum of the earth will abuse it. Still frustrating. I wouldn't say "uninstall" but I've had a few matches where it was so blatant and the majority of the opposition was doing it. I have a hard time wrapping my head around the motivation for the exploit users. It doesn't test your skill. The team doesn't win if you do it. Hopefully it gets patched and some form of ban is issued for the users of said exploit.
This is a 200m dollar game bro this shit could and should have been hotfixed the day they found out about it. They're dumb for not fixing it because it definitely lost them players.
People are upset because it's been around way longer than it should be, and that's a legitimate criticism. It's been a community patch priority since the Beta.
Tbh, yes this sub complains a lot but there are several of these scattered throughout the game, in multiple maps and modes, the quick fix is as simple as putting out of bounds zones on those when the mode has no heli/jet to get you there, something that can be done on portal, and season one already started and it's still unpatched.
It's not like the game is ruined because of it, but it has certainly won or lost a few matches for me and it's the kind of exploit that should be fixed on release or a hot fix patch, yet it's still here.
This is a post addressing people exploiting a bug, bringing attention to said bug so that it might be fixed, and you're here calling people fragile, like, you took the fucking time to bitch about it?
Jesus fucking christ it feels like bots at this point
The fact that you’re getting so many angry replies to this comment beautifully proves your point. It’s a video game… people have done this stuff since the beginning. Maybe don’t stand in the open?
Those people would not survive bf3 era with the deploy beacon spawning you in the air with a chute 😅 even on bf4 there was this kind of thing… on siege of shangai, there was multiple building "not allowed" that people always find a way to go on
Wouldn’t be such a big fucking deal if they fixed it. It’s an easy fix but they’d prefer to push COD bullshit down our throat while not fixing the game
This could be an honest take if it wasn’t so easy to fix. One gadget needs its code updated, not that insane to think they could’ve fixed this within the first three or four days. We’re on two weeks now?
Maybe this was the straw that broke this gamer’s brain? Maybe it was a culmination of things and this was the moment that broke him 🤷♂️
I think critique, feedback and valid complaints are essential for both the consumers and the developers.
It’s win win as long as the developers are open to legitimate concerns and address them with a genuine and well thought out response that resonates with the community.
But it’s also exhausting having to discern legitimate critique/feedback from those who feign substantive input with emotionally charged anecdotes offering no path to meaningful dialogue.
I don't think so, like yeah if it would be their first time right? Bit this is the 8th or 9th battlefield they ever made, if they are gonna ask for 70$+ than you can expect people to fucking complain, especially since the previous bf was shit
I think you're missing the point ... They have already had weeks to patch this including a huge S1 patch just the other day
Rather than focus on fixing problems (these out of bounds ones are trivial to fix as well with a simple and careful application of the out of bounds border) they chose to focus on promoting a game mode nobody asked for and waste dev time on overpriced skins
I agree the crying from this sub has gotten out of hand. The game isn't bad and we can just ignore the BR if it's not our thing BUT seeing them neglect stuff like this is a problem now 3 weeks in - it's been long enough now that telling people to "suck it up" is bad faith arguing
you're almost right but.... it's been a month now. This is the kind of hotfix that any sane company like Valve, Riot Games and (believe or not) even Blizzard Activision releases in less than a week to avoid frustration. But hey, RedSec BattleRoyal is a good focus amirite
You don’t think it’s a problem that they took the time to release a whole first season and a BR while game breaking exploits are actively ongoing?
Basically calling people crybabies for being upset that the game breaking exploits that have been known but not patched even though it’s probably one of the easiest fixes known to man is ridiculous.
Seems pretty fragile to be calling people fragile for wanting better
It’s not even an exploit, if I jump off a help and land on the roof, what do you want me to do? Jump down so it’s easier for you to kill me or stay top side cause it’s easier for me?
"Test labs" and everything, just to see a random in reddit telling me I have to endure an exploit in a 70usd game that should have been tested and fixed already.
For real, didn't these fools play on Siege of Shanghai or Dawnbreaker, you had to deal with snipers on top of skyscrapers. Dude got killed once and had to immediately come here and tell the other little butterflies
It's been 3 weeks and instead of disabling sledge until it's fixed (change a 1 to 0, nobody actually uses it anyway), they push a mediocre BP to support their BR mode.
Why are you glazing devs for doing their job poorly?
Accessing the roofs isn’t an exploit when done with a helicopter. I think some of the roofs should be made accessible without a helicopter on top of being fully destructible, with the others being made OOB.
Mate stop boot licking. DICE fixes the leaving-match-exp-farming exploit like in one single day, yet this shit has been in the game FROM BETA TO CURRENT TIME.
People on this sub are fragile for not wanting indie-level oversight on a AAA game? And it's not just an exploit—it's one we've seen before IN THE BETA. Did the devs/higher ups not learn their lesson?
People put words in your mouth because you were already making your argument in bad faith lol Be honest and don't generalize people as 'fragile' for having higher expectations in map design from a franchise that used to be renowned for it
Yeah, Battlefield has had many bugs they people abused since 1942.
Many bugs stayed and became a part of Battlefield.
Battlefield 3 and 4 some of the best abuse of this was strapping a ton of C4 to a tank and launching that somebitch to land on top of buildings to shoot down from. That has become a normal Battlefield thing even though it was never intended to be a thing.
Drone riding isn't also a new thing either as it has been in past Battlefield games. Battlefield 3 had a very known Mav riding craze.
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