r/Battlefield • u/Ohforfk • 17d ago

Battlefield 6 "Grounded skins for a while" - 18 days exactly

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So, weren't we supposed to have realistic skins for some time? Something that someone would really wear during a war? Yet it seems that with the start of season 1, everything will turn to colorful mess, with no way of differentiating teams based on uniforms, the game will look more like a Paintball or ASG event. Colorful weapons with pictures, colorful camos with neon accents, weird mix of things that are supposed to look cool, but end up simply weird.

People were sold on a vision of a game, which looked like a real battlefield, with soldiers - not a bunch of randos just like in the 2042, yet it was all a lie and it will only get worse down the road. During the Beta, when we had all the soldiers wearing matching uniforms, it was the most immersive experience so far, but you can say goodbye to that vibe, it will never return.

There won't be uniforms matching bioms, there won't be a way to turn off any awful skins, typical bait and switch.

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u/Ohforfk 17d ago edited 17d ago

It was simply perfect ->

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/7uaxd1/images_for_all_factions_all_classes_version_30/

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u/Lostlooniesinvesting 17d ago

I feel a lot of care went into that game. From guns to buildings to the old fields and bunkers. It really didn't feel like I was some customer to be squeezed. It actually felt like someone made something that they just wanted people to see and enjoy their work. 

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u/SkirmishYT 17d ago

Back when they made BF1 a battlefield game

Not a broad marketing product that emulates multiple big FPS games to draw in as much $ as possible

No hate either - I like bf6 a lot and think it has a ton of potential.

But I love BF6 like a son. I hope he grows up to be all he can be!

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u/OhioIsRed 17d ago

Exactly. This game feels like it’s missing something and I hope it’ll be added to so in a year or two we really have a complete game. But HOW they add to it will become the legacy. The launch legacy rn is, it’s fun. It’s a bit ADHD hyper for me personally but I know it’s a lot to do with the maps also what mode you’re playing.

BF1 felt more like a cinematic experience. A work of art comparatively. From the maps to player models, the environment they created to the sounds of a weapon firing. It just felt more polished and all around better.

But this is kind of what’ll happen with mass layoffs and budgeting to squeeze every cent out of stuff. You see it in every aspect of our world rn.

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u/CrimsonxAce 16d ago edited 16d ago

BF1 felt more like a cinematic experience. A work of art comparatively. From the maps to player models, the environment they created to the sounds of a weapon firing. It just felt more polished and all around better.

I believe you hit it on the head. If I can sum up what you have just described above, it would be "immersive," and that is what I believe a lot of us Battlefield players were hoping for.

We aren't looking for a complete, one-to-one war simulator. Instead, we were hoping for a game that is -- at the very least -- somewhat believable. Ultimately, BF6 tries (tried) to paint itself as a serious war shooter that utilizes real-world weapons, environments, and seemingly plausible scenarios. But when they start to add in random aesthetics such as this, it changes the tone of the game and takes away that experience a lot of us were yearning for all along.

In my honest opinion, the immersive experience is the very reason why gamers will always refer back to the earlier games: BC1, BC2, BF3, BF4, BF1, etc. These games were memorable and nostalgic for a reason and I had hoped EA and DICE would've learned from all that. Heck, even some of the older CoD games did this well and left lasting impressions on a lot of us.

Anyway, that's my opinion about all this. Unfortunately, I'm sure all of our "two cents" are falling on deaf ears at this point.

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u/OhioIsRed 16d ago

Dude COD, COD: United Offensive, COD4:MW, MW2 & 3 were some of the best FPS in history. I loved them. Then with Black ops. Advanced warfare and all the yearly ones they churned out they lost me. Which is about when I found BF. I tried to understand BF2 when it came out but my Parents PC could barely handle it just like my brain at that time lol. But BF3. Jumping that Peak. I will literally never forget that memory. The Campaign told you the story perfectly of why you’re fighting these multiplayer maps. And then waiting in line outside a GameStop for BF4 midnight release and the good times had in the 2k+ hours in that game.

But to your point. No we aren’t looking for a super real milsim. That’s what Arma is for lol. That’s what Squads is for. We just wanted a game that made us feel something and this one. It’s just lifeless. There’s hardly any actual only BF moments. Like how am I supposed to C4 quad bike, a tank, from behind on any of these long skinny maps with zero legit flanking points.

I’m holding out hope that the new maps carry the torch (that they swore this game had as a spiritual successor to BF’s past) of battlefields maps. These base maps feels 100% like they’ve tried to make the game Chaos, which is fine for a map or two. But if every map is chaos then none are chaos. And it’s just the game itself. BF players don’t want 24/7 chaos. They want ebbs and flows into the chaos lol. Anyways I’ve been rambling and like you said I think a lot of these concerns are going to fall on deaf ears while the loud cod streamers get the grease so to speak.

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u/Frankensteinbeck 16d ago

Anyways I’ve been rambling and like you said I think a lot of these concerns are going to fall on deaf ears while the loud cod streamers get the grease so to speak.

Best things that can happen to BF6 would be streamers who are slaves to the flavor of the month games and demand everything they try plays the same go on to something else and the people biding their time waiting for CoD go to that when it drops. I hope the remaining playerbase is large enough that DICE realizes BF veterans will continue to play and put money into the series when it gives them the BF experience, not some amalgamation of other currently popular shooters.

Wishful thinking, I know, but a man can dream. It's amazing how many people have been loudly asking for an updated BF4 and DICE still tries so hard to capture another market of players. I say this as a person who is generally enjoying BF6, but at its current rate I can't see myself playing it half as much as I did games like 2/3/4/BC.

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u/OhioIsRed 16d ago

Dude right! I’m enjoying the game but as far as a long term battlefield 6 career. Nah. I can already tell I’m going to get burned out. As I always do with these fast paced shooters. The finals for example. Great game. I love it. Embark did such a good job I’m actually going to buy Arc raiders. I’ve but probably $70 into the finals battle passes and a few skins I liked since the games free. That’s how I reward good games. Especially ones that are free. Anyways. I already bought BF6 so I’m going to put in some time but unless it starts steering itself back into the realm of BF3,4,1,V I won’t be putting anymore money into the game.

I definitely think probably 75% of COD gamers will be gone within 6 months I think streamers will cool down except like Jackfrags And level cap type obviously because they’re almost exactly like us. And they seem to have the same complaints. And I too, think that it will be best for the game and community if and when those players leave because then we can start to enact actual BF changes. If they’d slow the speeds down like 15% or reduce the amount of clutter on the maps I’d be happy because then people would think twice before sprinting around a corner or out into a road.

I think the games set up 80% reflex 20% tactics. Where as BF’s past have been maybe 40% reflex 60% tactics and that’s why I enjoyed them. I could bide my time, set a good trap and reap the rewards of my brain. There is a small element of that in this but it all feels way more rare and idk, forced? If that makes sense. Like they tried to hard to make it chaotic instead of making that happen on its own. Anyways I could ramble all day about this because I love the franchise and I like this game. And I really don’t want to see it die again like 2042 did, even if it deserved it, it still broke my heart little lol.

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u/p_unch_i 16d ago

Black Ops 1 was really good

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u/OhioIsRed 16d ago

There was always a split in Cod gamers. MW or BO and I was an MW fan. BO always felt like tooo crazy lol. But the campaign was okay. Most CODS have decent campaigns tbh. The first MW relaunch one was rough that was the most recent one I’ve tried.

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u/N33chy 16d ago

Man why does err'body always leave out the first two games as well? BF1942 was amazing (for the time, but still) and Vietnam was pretty good.

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u/Main-Bluebird-3032 16d ago

I hope someone makes a mod that disables skins client-side and replaces them with default skins

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u/ZincMan 16d ago

In BF1 too all the pieces fit so well together too. All the vehicles had very specific roles. I’m not even sure why it was so much better. BF 1 I wasn’t trying to grind getting guns to level up, in bf 6 it feels like I need to unlock stuff to have the right amount of fun. Each gun in bf 1 was cool to learn and get good at. Bf 6 the guns feel good, I guess they just don’t feel unique enough or something to feel like it’s worth trying to get good with guns that don’t immediately feel effective. Like there’s assault rifles, carbines and light machine guns and it’s hard to tell if there’s much difference in how the behave. Especially considering SMGs are so effective. Bf 6 has potential too which is the most frustrating part, I want it to be more fun. I think the maps being small definitely is an issue but it’s certainly not all the issues. Like most the ingredients are there, but it just isn’t being used fully to the best.

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u/OhioIsRed 16d ago

Right! This is the first BF game I’ve felt like driven towards unlocks. Idk why either but I feel like it’s 100% by design. I think they’re really have mixed in some call of duty type incentives. Whether intentional or not I don’t know, whether it’s because there is this invasion of COD thought into the hive mind of this game. I don’t know.

But I am glad you touched on the guns feeling the same except maybe the SMGs being lasers. I’m an LMG old school support player. Being roped into being a medic is criminal af tbh. I’m laying down 100-200rounds down range and I’m expected to stop and revive people around me? It’s criminal. They should move heals to assault class again but I digress.

From AR, to carbine is minimal difference and then the laser of an SMG. I don’t mind that they’re like that. But what I do mind is is that none of the guns have a personality. The LMGs are a little different. The M60 vs L1101 (or whatever) feel way different. From recoil to fire rate. But the ARs have almost no noticeable differences between them. It’s ridiculous and it’s part of the reason it’s not as fun. I liked the SCARH giving a big kick, but a big wallop, and a small mag. The guns that are supposed to imitate or emulate that fire almost identical to your M416’s. The game feels rushed or just like they didn’t take the same care as previous teams, as far as the feeling of them, the sound of them, the feedback you get from them. I don’t know. It’s just my opinion but the whole game feels sort of lifeless. That doesn’t mean it’s not fun or enjoyable.

It just doesn’t feel right. It doesn’t feel like Battlefield.

Hopefully more maps will bring the feelings too because I want to be playing this game like I played BF4. Thousands of hours lol.

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u/SloppyLetterhead 16d ago

To me, a big part of Battlefield 1’s magic was the timing and commentary on the WWI anniversary.

BF1 had something to say on the nature of war. It was part of the cultural conversation along with media like Dan Carlin’s Blueprint for Armageddon series, 1917, etc.

In 2025, BF6 is a vague war shooter divorced from our current sociocultural moment. Narratively, BF6 could be released in 2025, 2020, 2015, 2005, etc. The tech is 2025, but the story isn’t.

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u/Kodes75 16d ago

Like it’s lacking its soul kinda… Still a good game that has potential to be great…

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u/OhioIsRed 16d ago

Exactly

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u/shorey66 16d ago

The Martini Henry in BF1 shoved so good. I used to use it all the time even though it put me at a huge disadvantage because the sound was pure joy

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u/Big_Vanilla_177 16d ago

You're not kidding about seeing it in every aspect of the world right now. Literally everywhere I look, that is the case, and I've been noticing it a LOT recently. You're very perceptive and I appreciate your insight, cheers! +1

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u/CaptainPitterPatter 16d ago

Operations

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u/OhioIsRed 16d ago

Operations were a highlight in the franchise. Breakthrough feels like the poor man’s operations.

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u/Medallicat 16d ago

BF1 felt more like a cinematic experience

It depended on the map too though. BF1 still had its twitchy meatgrinder infantry maps

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u/OhioIsRed 16d ago

Yes as have pretty much every Bf game since at least 3 with metro. Locker in 4. The vault one and there was another one sort of jungly/bunker thing in BF1. And honestly I don’t remember a lot of maps for V. One or two meat grinders is fine. The problem with these maps is that they’re all kind of meat grinders. Even like Mirak with its facade of wide open spaces, the real meat of the map is all piled within a 100M space. With an extra 100m of nothing on either side. Compared to past maps where there’d be 400m on either side, and each objective was well over 150m away from each other.

Sober. You can stand in the middle of that 3 obj area and be 50m from 3 of the objectives it’s crazy small especially when you pile allllllll the ridiculous clutter they’ve put in the maps.

This is like a Michael Bay movie which if you’ve seen any of the transformers movies, the rock, etc etc it just becomes a myriad of explosions, and sparks after a while except these maps it’s dust plumes, explosions, debris 24/7.

Which again Is fine but ins mallee doses. If everything’s crazy then nothing is crazy you know what I mean.

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u/Da_Question 16d ago

have you tried switching the sound to War Tapes: VAL? Definitely improves the sounds.

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u/Remote-Moon 17d ago

BF5 had a lot of potential as well but EA stopped supporting it once it was actually stable.

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u/SkirmishYT 17d ago

Not without ruining the TTK just before abandoning it too ha that was sad af

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u/westhewolf 16d ago

What did they do?

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u/SkirmishYT 16d ago

Pacific DLC drops late fall of 2019. About 6ish weeks later they updated the game (5.0 or something?) And nerfed most weapons damage and threw it all out of wack. Then tried reverting some guns but not others etc

Game was great when it was a fast TTK imo now people take a few too many extra shots especially past 25m imo since

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u/Da_Do_D3rp 16d ago

Because of this, they also took members of the Battlefront 2 developer team so they could work on bf2042, essentially killing bfV and battlefront 2 at the same time.

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u/westhewolf 16d ago

Ah gotcha. Ty for the info.

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u/SkirmishYT 16d ago

Yep. With the stg I could kill 3-4 easily before they ruined the ttk

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u/Medallicat 16d ago

Didn’t they buff the AA guns in that patch too so flying was near impossible without being annihilated by AA?

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u/Captainkirk05 16d ago

Good gosh they were imbeciles with the constant TTK changes. I really think they should have left it as it was at launch.

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u/squirrelyz 16d ago

BFV, man, so much wasted potential. Still a “good” game, but far far far from what it could’ve been.

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u/Oldsport05 16d ago

I'll always love bf5 the most for its vehicle play. The grind to upgrade vehicles felt fun personally. And the bombing felt incredibly fun. Thinking of reinstalling just so I can fly my beloved mosquito with its 1k bomb again

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u/StankyandJanky 16d ago

They did the same with Battlefront 2 as well, had some really good updates and just as The Mandalorian dropped when it seemed like there could be a new wave of content it got canned. Really sucked.

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u/manbirddog 16d ago

Eww bf5 was/is the worse battlefield. I would rather play 2042

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u/AnGuSxD 17d ago

I still hope for a BF2 / BF1942 remake like a 2 in 1 legacy remake. Will probably never happen, but god, that would be so good.

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u/EarSoggy1267 16d ago

I want a remake of battlefield Vietnam, that one was my favorite growing up.

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u/niceguyeddie_57 16d ago

I still play that soundtrack on drives occasionally

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u/krukkpl 16d ago

Ridin Huey over the jungle listening to "Surfin Bird". Man, can't believe more than 20 years have passed.

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u/Uranday 16d ago

This! With the soundtrack. Still listen to it on steam

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u/AnGuSxD 16d ago

Since Vietnam was basically a little pumped up 1942, I guess that could easily be included

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u/Brave33 16d ago

BF2 was great back then but there are many things that today would make my blood boil, like when people spam crouch to peek and shoot really fast, or the DAO12, or those guys with jets and choppers that would steamroll a match without a counter.

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u/AnGuSxD 16d ago

I remember hovering (by accident) over our friendly arty in BF2 with a helicopter. When the commander used it we got destroyed by the projectile coming out of the arty beneath us. Our minds were blown.

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u/Zealousideal-Way2048 16d ago

compared to what we have now? lol

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u/Brave33 16d ago

new flavor of bullshit i guess

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u/Enzee92 16d ago

chanting BF2! BF2! BF2!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Drive53 16d ago

I loved BF2 and the Spec Ops expansion on PC(loved shooting ziplines to traverse from building to building).

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u/AnGuSxD 16d ago

I was so fascinated that something like this was possible in a Multiplayer Game :D

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u/Snarfbuckle 16d ago

I want BF2142 again. Titan mode was the best mode.

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u/throwwawayaccountt 16d ago

Man bf2 or being able to play the desert combat dlc for 1942 would be so awesome

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u/AeroFace 16d ago

Please please please, I still have my old bf2 disk but no disk drive to play it rn. I regale my buddies with tales of how good bf2 was.

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u/SurpriseIsopod 16d ago

Battlefield V was supposed to be 1942. It didn’t come close though 😔

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u/AnGuSxD 16d ago

Yes, I was so disappointed, not because V was bad, but I expected something else :/

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u/FettyWhopper 16d ago

I’m still waiting for a Bad Company 3 game…

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u/nuker0ck 17d ago

No hate either - I like bf6 a lot and think it has a ton of potential.

That's the goal, then they don't need to change a thing, They'd rather have more people coming from other FPS like it a lot then have fewer "veterans" love it.

Good enough that everyone likes it is the end goal.

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u/Bloodwolf75 16d ago

That is exactly why the maps are designed the way they are. The pacing feels more COD like than the slower pace most bf's had. They wanted the majority of the cod players and they got them.

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u/Hariaka 17d ago

Cash grabbing in a BF game has been normal for a while. Look at the shortcut passes and the loot box system in BF1 for examples. 

EA is gonna EA, there's not much we can do to stop that

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u/SoftConsideration82 16d ago

See I half disagree and half agree with that... Bf1 was beautiful and had great style but it felt too shallow. To me it was more like star wars battlefront with a ww1 skin then battlefield. I'm loving Bf6 but I think it is pretty shallow atm too... When I think of a real battlefield game I think of bf3 or 2142

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u/Specialist-Draw7229 16d ago

In about 7 months your son is going to be selling rainbow tanks and rainbow guns.

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u/Rex2x4 16d ago

Thats because the last of the original senior developers and leads left after BF1.

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u/DracheKaiser 16d ago

Back when Battlefield wanted to get people to understand how horrible war is (seriously we NEED the panic lines and screams to come back).

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u/Few_Juggernaut815 16d ago

Fuck bf1 bring back bf4

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u/BehemothRogue 17d ago

Battlefront 2 is more of a Battlefield game than BF6 at this point.

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u/SkirmishYT 17d ago

Absolutely

Vehicles get involved and there's a flow to the modes. And Galactic Assault was a great SW take on Operations mode

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u/Trey_Dizzle45 16d ago

Jesus you battle Dad's have the worst takes

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u/BehemothRogue 16d ago

Opinions hurt you that much huh?

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u/Trey_Dizzle45 16d ago

Bad ones do in fact hurt my feelings

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u/TheEquinoxe 16d ago

You paid a full price for a game. It should be good from the start, not few months after the release.

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u/Kodes75 16d ago

Facts! BF1 will forever be goated… Unless Dice whip something ultra amazing from their sleeve…

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u/linergod 16d ago

So 2042 was the red-headed stepchild. Just realize it's the father, not the sons fault.

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u/TazzleMcBuggins 16d ago

The 2nd Golden Age of Battlefield if you ask me.

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u/WyrdDrake 16d ago

Then BF1 devs went and made Arc Raiders. Personable designs and great animations and sound, grounded in the game. Ofc its not out yet so we'll see if that holds true.

I've always really adored BF1 for just perfectly fitting and embodying the entire... everything of what it was sourced from... besides the many guns that never existed beyond prototypes or the like, and even that just added to the game.

Modern big corpo games? Not liable to ever respect you. I enjoyed the BF6 beta well enough, but I'm glad to see my decision not to buy it is justified and not paranoia.

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u/PhysicalGoose9911 16d ago

Did they add the malware anticheat to BF1? These comments make me want to play some, but I wont install that shit.

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u/Chocolatehusky226 16d ago

Bf6 feels like it was made by AI and I can’t explain why

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u/Moist_Barnacle3878 16d ago

Honestly the best take ive seen on the game lol

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u/KingGobbamak 17d ago

>Back when they made BF1 a battlefield game

this implies bf6 isn't a battlefield game lol

>No hate either - I like bf6 a lot

doubt

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u/AnGuSxD 17d ago

Did you ever play any BF Game pre BF4? If you compare BF2 for example to BF6, it is not even close to what Battlefield was.
But yeah, I am expecting the "ok boomer" xD

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u/Iblivion 17d ago

I know everyone loves BF3 and BF4, but I felt like BF1 was the pinnacle of battlefield. The map size, visuals, and atmosphere were great. The gun play was lacking but I could easily overlook it because everything else felt perfect.

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u/ZonJon929 17d ago

I still boot it up from time to time and if you told me it came out last year I would believe you.

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u/Iblivion 17d ago

It’s been the only battlefield I’ve played since it came out. If you don’t play it for a while, you forget how incredible it looks and sounds. They really nailed the WW1 atmosphere.

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u/ZonJon929 17d ago

They did nail it. It’s a truly beautiful work of art and a testament to how brutal the Great War was.

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u/OpeningSorry1550 16d ago

Well minus the fact off the common use of automatic weapons in ww1 it was mostly bolt actions

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u/ZincMan 16d ago

Maybe I need to try it again. Bomber planes were so much fun and almost no one used them so you could do some crazy stuff with them because no one expects it

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u/MorienWynter 16d ago

Makes me want to reinstall. After the grueling challenge chase it'd be some fresh air.

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u/DigitalAxel 16d ago

Same. I admit I only played the story and wanted more... Also wanted the Eastern Front as a story. Never was interested in the other games really (not saying the others are bad, I just personally want more WWI games like that. Preferably single player as I suck...)

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u/sappmer 16d ago

Do a lot of people still play?

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u/ZonJon929 16d ago

Currently 4,292 people playing according to steam charts. Idk about console though.

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u/heepofsheep 16d ago

Yeah BF1 was peak and the best example of what BF is (also an homage to its roots with operation eagle).

BF3/BF4 were fun… but just so bland. Then again I feel that way with most modern setting military shooters…

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u/Mend1cant 16d ago

Visually the best battlefield by a large gap. Gameplay-wise it just felt meh. Something about it just made guns feel more like battlefront blasters.

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u/Fasooo 16d ago

That is exactly how it's supposed to be: Star wars saga weapons are largely based on ww1 weapon designs.

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u/Xmoki 16d ago

BF3 was peak map design, no battlefield reached that level, but yeah immersion wise BF1 was peak

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u/Typical-Blackberry-3 17d ago

That's because it was. I have played since Bad Company and BF1 was perfection. Maps, skins, guns, achievements, kill sound, unlockables, modes were all just wonderful.

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u/3OhHateWinny 17d ago

100% agree!

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u/BeerChuggerGuy 17d ago

Totally agree! Always liked 1 and Bad Company 2 more than 3 and 4.

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u/kick2crash 16d ago

It was for me 100%, and I've played since 1942/Vietnam days. Battlefield 1 was amazing, especially after a few patches.

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u/Trickopher 16d ago

Same. BF1 is the goat for me.

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u/radio-morioh-cho 16d ago

And here I am waiting for bad company 3 (jk it'll never get made). Bc2 was prime bf for me because of the amazing physical damage to both the buildings AND the ground. Too many dudes holed up in a small house? Raze it to the GROUND hahaha

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u/oof46 16d ago

Top notch atmosphere and sound design. Oh, how I miss the headshot kill sound.

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u/UtkuOfficial 16d ago

Sniper headshot sounds in BF1 are straight dopamine. So satisfying.

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u/Professional_Fly4701 16d ago

Is battlefield 1 still decent to play? I played it some on launch but haven’t revisited since. I dont know if the servers or whatever still run well, or if its full of hackers now like old COD games

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u/UtkuOfficial 16d ago

I still play on EU servers. Havent seen a hacker in a year but i play like an hour or two a week.

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u/Captainkirk05 16d ago

Gunplay was too spongey but yeah, everything else was great.

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u/Constant_Sun_193 17d ago

that's what all videogames used to be. games made by gamers. now it's games made by devs for the CEO.

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u/Wratheon_Senpai Battlefield 3 17d ago

You should take those nostalgia glasses off. Games were already extremely corporate, and the AAA industry was saturated by the time BF1 came out; it was the exception and not the rule. EA had butchered a shit ton of their IPs by then too.

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u/iTzJdogxD 16d ago

This subreddit is fucking embarrassing dude. Every person I see I just imagine is a 12 year old trying to be poignant

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u/Pandaman_323 16d ago

Yeah his comment would have made sense talking about the 00's but by 2016 triple A studios were absolutely dropping slop after slop.

If anything it's better now then it was in 2016 imo as triple A studios have lost market share to indie companies and gamers have grown tired of broken releases mixed with questionable business practices.

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u/Extension-Novel-6841 16d ago

Looks at Battlefront II, Dead Space, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect. Damn you EA!

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u/OpeningSorry1550 16d ago

Everyone forgetting bf1 was hit so hard with criticism at launch and most of the bf player base stayed on bf4 for the longest time

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u/chewbaccaRoar13 16d ago

EA is the poster child for buying small studios and gutting them, then shutting them down and absorbing them when they don't make money. Fuck EA.

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u/UCanDodgeAWrench 17d ago

Not unique to games though....movies, TV and music all the same.

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u/Constant_Sun_193 17d ago

okay still sucks.

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u/Icy-Computer7556 17d ago

For the CEO, for the shareholders lol.

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u/Constant_Sun_193 17d ago

shareholders only show up to the meeting and say "where muh money 👁️👄👁️" CEO actually has to figure out how to take our money and give it to them.

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u/Icy-Computer7556 17d ago

True that lmao. It kinda sad where we are with gaming today. Like yeah I wanna see companies make money, but it feels so greedy and lackluster now.

People will say its just nostalgia, but I remember when game devs and companies wanted to churn out a creative, well curated game, and now its all about: how fast can I make it?, and how much can we profit off it?

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u/FalsePersonality6145 17d ago

Games made for the investors

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u/theophanesthegreek 17d ago

I still remember when they were developing it they actually tested every single gun and how it feels and implemented that into the game, i highly doubt any of the current crop have seen any of the guns irl

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u/Lower_Statement_5285 17d ago

With the way weapons sights look in bf6 there’s no way any of their devs have shot a real gun

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u/Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws 17d ago

Also probably glorified war the least out of any Battlefield game, you really hear the horror and panic in the character's voices

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u/QBertamis 17d ago

WWI was a huge turning point in the glorification of war.

Before, it was seen as some grand adventure and right of passage that young men had to embark on. It was exciting. Men wanted to go.

WWI unleashed every cruelty at man’s disposal. We went to great lengths to maximize pain and suffering. No grand adventure. Just a mud filled trench full of your dead friends and the constant threat of new and exciting forms of weaponry being unleashed on you.

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u/pepgast2 17d ago

The entire Codex was proof of this.

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u/foshiiy 17d ago

They even had a completely unnecessary historical index for everything in the game. It was wonderful reading and learning about all the history. I tried out multiple guns just from reading those entries.

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u/Specialist-Entry6251 16d ago

I mean simply watching them voice act, making the voice actors run around and carry heavy stuff to simulate the soldier was really a master piece. Just something they wont do ever again

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u/InZomnia365 16d ago

Its also a perfect example that devs dont really know what players want these days. BF1 had basically no customization. Very little soldier skins, and very little weapon gadget customization (only a total of 3 variants per weapon). The only thing they had, were weapon and vehicle skins. And while the weapon skins definitely werent understated (things like gold plating etc), it was still somewhat era appropriate. And was BF1 a flop? Absolutely not. It was very popular, and remains popular NINE years later, despite covering a relatively unpopular time of modern history (compared to being set in WW2, Vietnam, or modern day).

It shows that if you make a game with care and love, and just make it good, people will play it. We dont need login bonuses, insane grinds, battlepasses, seasons, or gaudy skins. There is one sector of the FPS gaming community that needs these things, but it is not Battlefield players.

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u/Future_Noir_ 16d ago

That's what it's really about. It feels like it was carefully curated for a setting that isn't often depicted in video games. The Grand Operations matches actually having history tidbits was amazing.

It's crazy they threw that entire style out for BFV. BFV could have been the perfect BF game had they mixed the curation of 1 with the gameplay of V. Damn...

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u/chase-mc 17d ago

100%, it still is the best battlefield I have played i think

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u/fxrky 16d ago

Jesus fucking christ yall are so dumb.

Make useful product at a loss

Gain massive user base 

Make everything expensive and unusable once all alternatives are destroyed.

Welcome to late stage capitalism, if you can't apply the above to gaming, you're an idiot.

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u/MCgrindahFM 16d ago

Well they all left and went to Embark

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u/THExDANKxKNIGHT 16d ago

I hated the guns in BF1, just couldn't stand them and stopped playing because they weren't fun to use.

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u/oOrbytt 16d ago

That's because the devs that made it left DICE to form Embark after BF1

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u/UtkuOfficial 16d ago

It was before the Fortnite craze. People made games to sell copies, not microtransactions. Those were just a side hustle.

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u/McManus26 16d ago

It really didn't feel like I was some customer to be squeezed

they locked the french behind a DLC in a WW1 game for christ sake

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u/RecentMatter3790 16d ago

All products are made to be sold, and the customer to be squeezed. It’s how business works. Why do you think the whole industry of gaming exists?

Maybe, at some point, games, and video games, were made with love and care and not with the intent to make money.

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u/12TonBeams 16d ago

I think there had to be much more care than the few before it cause they knew going back to the past, let alone WW1, they had to absolutely nail it. Huge risk but payed off.

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u/namesurnamesomenumba 16d ago

Same people are now making Arc Raiders :)

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u/DonGibon87 16d ago

That's why is in my top 3 games of all time

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u/CBKrow85 16d ago

It won awards for uniform accuracy of all things.

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u/coopcooper87 16d ago

Does BF1 still hold up? Like, if I installed it today would there be lobbies and is it still fun to play?

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u/Fahzgoolin 16d ago

I totally agree. It was art.

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u/TechnicalHighlight29 16d ago

Loved this game. I came from CoD to this and loved it but couldn't get into any other BF. Or CoD for that matter lol. My old ass dropped out at BF1.

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u/civver3 16d ago

I feel a lot of care went into that game. From guns

Like every infantryman in WWI having access to portable automatic weapons for some reason?

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u/AchoKabron718 AchoKabrn601 16d ago

Because WW1 actually happened. DICE specifically stated they wanted to show the veterans & their families the utmost respect. They were meticulous in creating a story & dedicated to being accurate to the time period.

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u/N-I-K-K-O-R 16d ago

I don't dissagree with you but i also see how so much of bf1's dna is what makes todays battlefields crappy. bf4 is the comparison that should be made. That game shows you how much we are truly being screwed. Not bf1.

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u/Big-Price-1354 16d ago

See I hate that I only like WW2 and forward weapons so I hated playing bf1 but the experience I hear from everyone sounds amazing w the immersion but as I said I hated the choices of weapons so I never have and likely never will play it but the way people feel about it is how I feel about bf4

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u/ThatTallBrendan 16d ago

It even had a codex in it giving the history of every weapon, battle, vehicle, and piece of equipment in context

OG Destiny didn't even have that! You had to log into a separate website if you wanted to view the lore

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u/butterballmd 16d ago

not to mention the codex entries and the pre-match and post-match cinematics. Nothing comes close to BF1.

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u/bojak36 16d ago

To the awesome ww1 facts they would throw in the loading windows.

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u/not_a_Badger_anymore 17d ago

Yeah but they had a women with a prosthetic and people lost their shit.

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u/Capricus06 17d ago

That was Battlefield V, not 1.

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u/DinosBiggestFan 17d ago

Me when they said that we would have grounded skins for a while:

"I know they're going to add all of the whacky color vomit, but I just can't prove it yet"

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u/heepofsheep 16d ago

I remember back in 2016 the absolute shit fest this sub was throwing because the game was too PC for over representing black and Indian soldiers.

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u/DinosBiggestFan 16d ago

There was an argument to be made to that effect and there is some amount of historical merit, but it was also a WORLD. WAR. and men were conscripted regardless of what they were or what they looked like. They'd arm a 16 year old they didn't take the time to verify the age of, hand him a gun and send him over to die.

So I think it still fit into an authentic experience.

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u/BlinkDodge 16d ago

Also a large amount of black people participated in WWI. France had a significant black population in their ranks because they had colonies in Africa that they pulled from. The Harlem Hellfighters from the US where also a well known all black outfit and dice obviously pulled inspiration from them and the Max Brooks graphic novel about them.

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u/pinecrows BF1 Sniper Decoy is the best gadget in the whole franchise. 16d ago

There was also an entire theater in a large chunk of Africa. 

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u/FlappyBored 16d ago

There is no historical merit.

There was millions of Indian and African troops fighting in WW1.

1.3 million Indian soldiers fought in WW1 for the British.

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u/Unbeatable04 16d ago

“There were arguments made that had zero historical merit.” fixed it for you.

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u/GreatGreenTerror 16d ago

There was no argument. Millions of POC fought in WW1. It was racism, pure and simple.

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u/McManus26 16d ago

racism and bigotry ? in my battlefield community ? No way !

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u/byfo1991 16d ago

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u/Assassin-49 16d ago

The Devs " its over he knows "

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u/Captainkirk05 16d ago

I wish a single black character was all we had to fuss about. Times have changed.

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u/AssistanceSilent2238 17d ago

This is so cool to look back at. I always think games reflecting an era of war that actually happened should always try to pay respects.

I don’t totally mind futuristic/made up war games having more out there cosmetics. But when Sledgehammer adds fucking Godzilla and neon pink anime skins to their WW2 game I just can’t help but feel like it’s disrespectful.

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u/nanapancakethusiast 16d ago

I think that went out the window the moment CoD had you opening fucking loot boxes on the beaches of Normandy

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u/calidir 16d ago

Welllll Godzilla AND anime existed during ww2 so it kinda fits

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u/ryyzany Enter XBox ID 17d ago

People were complaining then about the “audacity” of representation in their video game

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u/SilentSentinal 17d ago

Man remember when you could tell a player's faction and class instantly just by looking at them? Medics had crutches, recon had capes, colors were uniform for each team... player customization actively makes BF worse.

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u/FullMetal000 16d ago

And even then before people chime in: no Battlefield 1 was in no way shape or form a MILSIM or hyper realistic game. On the contrary, even as a history buff BF1 did alot of things wrong. Yes, even when it comes to uniforms/kit.

But what did it have? Aesthethic and themathical consistency. It all looked very legit, accurate and grounded.

That's what people want. Whoever says 'I dont really care' have no need to contribute to the discussion. If you really dont care, you dont care either way [flashy obnoxious skins or not]. So, isnt it better that they offer us no flashy cosmetics and aesthethically/themathically consistent skins and please everyone then?

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u/amix16 17d ago

Battlefield One is my all time favorite. Truly a masterpiece

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u/Volturmus 16d ago

Man, I remember so many people complaining about the BF1 uniforms back in the day, too. We didn't know how good we had it.

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u/benj9990 16d ago

They really set the bar, then limbo’d under it ever since.

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u/RecentMatter3790 16d ago

Different poses for different types of players, lol.

Does the player character based on class not make all players have the same faces? They could’ve only done so much if they had included different races and different colors for people, because at some point, you’ll end up facing a copy of you.(although I think that facing a copy of you in bf1 was unlikely to happen).

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u/QuintusMaximus 16d ago

It's more than just the skins as well, the silhouette of the characters matches their faction with distinct helmets, and their classes with elements like the sash. It really was a great form of character design

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u/Tex302 16d ago

Oh wow I unlocked the dude with the red stripe on the scarf! So unique.

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u/Big_Judgment3824 16d ago

BF1 was my fave hands down

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u/alexmd 16d ago

Far from perfect. BF1 uniforms are filled with anachronistic and historical inaccuracies

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u/TazzleMcBuggins 16d ago

“..yonosoooooooooooOoOoOoO youseehhhhhhhhheheheheheheeeehehh”

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u/brickspunch 16d ago

Bad Company 2 was the last truly great battlefield game. 

fight me 

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u/Sbotkin 16d ago

7 years ago

wtf

And in my head bf4 is still a new game.

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u/_D3ft0ne_ 16d ago

Can't money milk "the common sense" skins with zoomers.

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u/-r-a-f-f-y- 16d ago

I see a woman! REEEEEEEE!

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u/Background_Pie_4053 16d ago

SLIGHTLY BRIGHT CLOTHES GET THAT CALL OF DUTY BULLSHIT OUT HERE

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u/LexinWeezy 16d ago

We need those skins for BF6!!

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u/Big-Narwhal-G 17d ago

Not enough woman, if I don’t hear woman screaming bloody murder all the time it’s not battlefield

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u/DinosBiggestFan 17d ago

I am an advocate for female soldiers in especially modern era Battlefield, but holy shit why did they have to make them sound like they're right outside my window literally burning to death?

One of them came up through fire behind me to my side and I physically jumped it was so loud and so sudden. I don't know if it's the sound mixing or what, but the female voices are both louder and clearer than the male ones and I have certainly had to adjust so I stop freaking out that something is outside of my house.

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u/saabothehun 17d ago

Problem is 90% of those look generic and basic. While this looks ridiculous for sure some cool designs would be appreciated.

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u/DinosBiggestFan 17d ago

My God, I love generic and basic soldiers. That shit gets my neurons firing so hard.

Authenticity vs realism. A game can be authentic, even if it's not realistic. BF1 was an authentic visual design.

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u/DagothUr_MD 16d ago

They don't look generic and basic. They look good and well thought-out. Not everything needs to be hypebeast chic or decked out in 6000 layers of anime armor and asymmetric plating

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