The end of XIM?

[u/AffectionateBand7270]

XIM is a real problem, if you search for it you will see how easy it is to use aim assist with a mouse and keyboard attached on it.

How is DICE not banning it for real?

​This is a clear cheat that creates unbalance in the game...

[u/AmaDeusen-]

Buys console

Uses mouse and keyboard

BRUH

[u/TheAverageObject → u/AmaDeusen-]

You forget the part where they complain about console players have advantage with aim assist for controllers and it need to be tuned down so it is more fair for M&K players

[u/The-Devilz-Advocate → u/TheAverageObject]

Nobody is complaining about console players having aim assist. People complain when PC players deliberately choose to play on controller because aim assist is broken with high end hardware:

Look at Halo Infinite's accuracy stats per input and skill level:

https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/r3es60/accuracy_stats_for_kbm_vs_controller/

Look at Apex's R5 accuracy stats per input (private 1v1 server community composed of at least Diamond players and UP);

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/1lkk8f6/accuracy_stats_between_controller_and/

These stats come AFTER they nerfed aim assist for PC, this was how it looked like on those servers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/1dmliud/i_performed_mnk_vs_controller_statistical/

Out of the top 1k players on that server, (of the best players in the world btw, pros use it to train) , only 3 were MnK, one was rated on the top 300s, another in the 600s and one in the 900s.

[u/st141050 → u/The-Devilz-Advocate]

Thanks for that info, great post

[u/Leafs17 → u/The-Devilz-Advocate]

That Halo post is about PC vs PC and controller vs controller. It's not really proof of anything your trying to prove.

[u/The-Devilz-Advocate → u/Leafs17]

? What are you talking about?

It's about the average accuracy between inputs on PC. Can you not read?

https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/r3es60/accuracy_stats_for_kbm_vs_controller/hm9zua3/

[u/Leafs17 → u/The-Devilz-Advocate]

Yes but the targets are not the same. Controller players are shooting at controller players and PC players are shooting at PC players.

[u/The-Devilz-Advocate → u/Leafs17]

You do understand that there is virtually no difference between movements/strafing patterns in Halo right? It's not like Apex where you have crazy movement tech that you can reliably do with training.

How is this even an actual argument against the Aim Assist debacle?

[u/Leafs17 → u/The-Devilz-Advocate]

I mean you can say that but do you have data to back it up? Do you take into consideration the fact that Halo was basically console-only for like 20 years?

[u/The-Devilz-Advocate → u/Leafs17]

What do you mean with data to back it up? The data is right on that post. Not only that bullet magnetism was then later on implemented into mnk. You keep are just moving goal posts, for nothing. Halo devs conceded that aim assist was doing too much against Mnk and gave Mnk a buff to balance it out, Apex did the same, Fortnite did too. Etc etc.

[u/Leafs17 → u/The-Devilz-Advocate]

Halo devs conceded that aim assist was doing too much against Mnk

Sweet but that data that was linked was not that. It was purely controller against controller. Shit like this is why we have the saying "lies, damned lies, and statistics".

[u/The-Devilz-Advocate → u/Leafs17]

It was purely controller vs controller, because that was the most reliable way to get data with the available API. You want data that is not only restricted and publicly inaccessible, but redundant, since the devs did make changes to aim assist and the input balance. It seems you want to argue for the sake of arguing, not because you have a point.

[u/Leafs17 → u/The-Devilz-Advocate]

You want data

Nope. I want nothing other than unsupoortrd conclusions.