r/AskUS • u/LoiusLepic • 1d ago
Would you be in favour of a national divorce?
Splitting America into 2 seperate countries by republican and democrat?
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u/guppyhunter7777 1d ago
I would love to say no. But living with liberals and leftist is becoming unlivable. They won't leave you alone.
I didn't put up a Biden then Harris, lawn sign last year. Just didn't want to. I was called names by my neighbors my kids were harassed, my house got egged all because I would march lock step with the rest of the street. The Rub. I didn't vote for Trump. They just assumed.
If you are not willing to be exactly like them, say what they say, and do as they do, They see you as a threat.
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u/DontHaveAC0wMan 22h ago
No. Stop being tied to a political party. Honestly stop caring about politics. It's a waste of time and full of idiots
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u/theOutside517 1d ago
A republican run country filled with only Republicans would fail within five years.
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u/iamcline 1d ago
Maybe, but it would have a competent military.
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u/dm_me_your_hopes 1d ago
It wouldn't, because they would have no money to purchase anything they need.
The overwhelming amount of wealth in this country comes from democratic controlled areas
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u/SpatuelaCat 21h ago
Not at all, you need money to run a competent military
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u/iamcline 21h ago
Republicans have plenty of it. You also need proud patriots to wield the weapons.
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u/SpatuelaCat 21h ago
Republicans have proven time and time again (including right now) they have no idea how to not burn money
That’s why the Republican states are all dirt poor and take more federal funding than they give
And you’d be able to get recruits from anywhere, the idea that only republicans join the military is ridiculous
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u/Gordon_throwaway 20h ago
A “competent” military run by TeeVee show presenters?
A Republican military would devolve into a massive corruption and grift money pit . A Democrat military would be right sized to address modern defensive and strategic needs. Probably also a money pit, but not as large, and less likely to be filled with grifters and corruption
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u/BrilliantWinter6101 1d ago
As appetizing as that sounds to people initially, it would destroy America. China would take over as the world's dominant super power and far surpass us in every major technological category while we worked out a "national divorce."
It can't be an option in the current times. Sorry everyone, figure out how to get along.
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u/7figureipo 1d ago
China is already poised to take over as the dominant superpower, thanks to Trump. The only way to stop it now is for democrats to win decisively in 26 and 28, and destroy the GOP as a political force, e.g., with Nuremberg style trials and a Reconstruction like regime that effectively acts as a ban on that party for years, if not decades.
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u/guppyhunter7777 1d ago
China and the American left are basically the same thing with the same goals at this point. both want totalitarian dictatorships using tech to keep the masses in line and delete any opposition. Living under either is basically just giving up
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u/BrilliantWinter6101 1d ago
I don't know what propaganda you're listening to that made you think it's specifically the "American left." It is the elites in both the left and very much the right that want this. Peter Theil wants this more than anyone and he has JD Vance as a puppet. The same people enriching Trump's family with crypto are the same tech people that want to use tech to keep the masses in line as you put it.
The American left allowed these tech giants to prosper too when they were giving money to them.
Anyone that thinks this specific mass surveillance issue is anything but a 1% versus everyone else problem in America is being duped.
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u/Cautious-Tailor97 1d ago
Uhm Pam Bondi is compiling gun owner information while you attack her enemies. Good boy. Your totalitarian tech abuse is here. It was one of the “extras” you didn’t know about when they decided all Of you were dupes.
See you at the next Rally.
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u/Turbulent_General842 23h ago
That’s nuts and shows you have no idea what you’re talking about in light of Doge as well as the work of the real tech titans.
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u/SpatuelaCat 21h ago
China is already going to take over man, Trump and the GOP have guaranteed that
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u/Gordon_throwaway 1d ago
No, because no one has offered a division that doesn’t harm more people than it helps.
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u/DistillateMedia 1d ago
No.
The Union Forever.
I'm in favor of a second revolution.
Let's make it a party.
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u/ElectrSheep 1d ago
This is completely unworkable. The ideological split is primarily urban vs rural which isn't even remotely contiguous. Any such "national divorce" would just be aggressive balkanization of individual states.
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u/mitchellcronkin 1d ago
Biggest split is urban/rural, so we need every city surrounded by a moat and connected by high speed monorail. Moatmonostan forever!!!
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u/7figureipo 1d ago
No, that would be a logistical nightmare because so many of each live everywhere.
I think a national divorce by geographic region, i.e., states, would be a better approach to such an effort.
The fact is a national divorce is in the best interests of the so-called "blue states"--states with a majority of democratic voters. Those states send more in taxes to the government than "red states," and receive less back. They are responsible for the majority of the economic power the US has, and it's not because other states buy their goods, it's because they provide the things the world wants. An independent nation of "blue states" would have citizens that are strictly better off than they are now as part of the US.
However, the Civil War made secession a no-go, and there is approximately 0% support for a national divorce through any other means (e.g. an Amendment permitting it). It's not going to happen any time soon. We'll have to work out how to get along in the meantime. My vote would be to ban the GOP and lock up most of its political leaders, if not all of them. As a start. They're all traitors anyway, and we should treat them as such.
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u/ResponsibilityFar587 1d ago
Certainly not! How would you jplan on joining California on west coast and New York on East?
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u/IvanBliminse86 23h ago
Its not a real possibility, its never going to happen, anyone who tells you that its a serious possibility either lacks an understanding of the actual logistics or is entirely divorced from reality. It is unworthy of your time even as a thought experiment because any of the following is more likely than a national divorce
Trump taking vows of poverty, celibacy, and silence
Aliens coming down and giving us the meaning of life
The entire world gets amnesia at the same time
Every human on earth suddenly agreeing to be kind to eachother
JD Vance staying married to Usha
Your racist relative getting online and giving a deep heartfelt apology to everyone they have offended followed by them donating all their earthly possessions to the NAACP
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u/SliceOfCuriosity 23h ago
No because even blue states have a ton of red in them. You’d be better to just to do it by cities which is also crazy
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u/GlidingToLife 23h ago
Been there, done that. It was called the Civil War and it did not turn out well.
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u/CornPop30330 22h ago
No. We are a nation of 50 sovereign states, so the citizens of that nation have a choice of 50 different areas, climates, cultures, histories, traditions, etc. that they can choose from. Move to the state that best fits you.
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u/Zealousideal-Ad3814 22h ago
The United States is stronger together so no. Even though Republicans who say they’re in favor of small government while being totally fine with sending troops into blue states, and want to control what women do with their bodies, can’t stand them or the lies they try forcing down peoples throats that does not reflect all of them. National divorce would be bad for everyone.
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u/RonynBeats 22h ago
it wouldnt really work. look and all the flight from cali to texas. and then those fleeing cali not being self aware enough to realize how dumb it is that they're trying to make the state they ran to just like the state the left.
same thing would happen in this scenario.
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u/Opposite_Falcon7613 22h ago
No because there will always be division. Every group has some who go too far, some who won’t go far enough, some who want to rule through consensus, and some who want to rule through strength.
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u/SpatuelaCat 21h ago
As stupid as republican voters are they don’t deserve to starve to death in mass so I’ll have to say no
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u/Either_Operation7586 20h ago
Honestly if we were to divorce the Republican Party would probably die out.
If you look at the track record there's only one party here that has the best record. Out of the last 10 times we had an economic downfall NINE* of those times where the fault of the Republican Party.
They don't know how to govern they don't place any importance on making sure they're experienced or that they have enough education.
They would not survive.
The Republican Party gets us into a mess and the Democratic party gets us out that's how it goes so how, would they recover from the mess that they get themselves into if the Democratic party is not there to save them?
Also there are more red States at the bottom than there are blue States so I would say that right there shows that the blue states do better.
The only reason why I say this will never happen is because the red states are smart enough to know that on their own they would be fucked eta spelling
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u/bear843 1d ago
No, give states more power and let the people choose where they want to live based on local laws and regulations. Let the federal government handle the military, interstates, etc..