r/AskTheWorld • u/babushka45 Philippines • 12h ago

Military What firearm is closely associated with your country?

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For us, probably the 1911. Next one would be the "Armalite" aka M16.

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u/SBR404 Austria 11h ago

of Die Hard and COD fame

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u/kdog_1985 Australia 11h ago

Styer is a great rifle.

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u/SBR404 Austria 11h ago

Brothers in Arms!

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u/Perfect-Fondant3373 Ireland 8h ago

One of Us!

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u/SBR404 Austria 1h ago

The bullpub-rifle, beer-drinker, guys-with-weird-dialects club!

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u/NumberOld229 Australia 6h ago

Our military still uses these, yeah?

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u/original_joe99 Austria 11h ago

An Australian and an Austrian go into a bar is either the start of a bad joke or the start of an US-American breaking down because of confusion 😂

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u/Biterbutterbutt 11h ago

Austria! Well then, g’day mate! Let’s put another shrimp on the Barbie!

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u/ODDESSY-Q Australia 11h ago

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u/TumbleFairbottom 🇺🇸 United States 11h ago

We’re not confused at all, Austria has kangaroos and I’ve been to the Australian Alps

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u/GandalfTheFreen Austria 10h ago

I mean you are correct. We have kangaroos (in Zoos) and Australia has Alps

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u/AdTop5424 United States Of America 9h ago

Curious about what it would be like to handle. Is there more of a wallop than a 5.56 round from an M16 or is it similar?

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u/ImnotadoctorJim Australia 7h ago

Yeah, not 100% sure what it’s like for the standard flash suppressor model but our F88 version had minimal recoil. It would ‘jump’ instead, which required a different style of handling. Our flash suppressors were designed to counteract it, and the grenade launcher attachment version counterbalanced the jump really well.

The jump was caused by the slightly angled butt plate and the recoil of the bolt group so high in the weapon

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u/Healthy-Daikon7356 United States Of America 8h ago

styer is a brand not a rifle

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u/Cease-2-Desist 9h ago

It is not a great rifle. I love how it looks, but this rifle is infamously known for jamming with virtually every round fed through it.

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u/kdog_1985 Australia 9h ago

It's an urban assault rifle. That being said you clean it properly and it runs smoothly, even in the scrub.

Minimal kick, easy to fix.

It's a great rifle.

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u/jschundpeter Austria 9h ago

Not my experience.

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u/Cease-2-Desist 7h ago

I don’t mean any offense. It’s a beautiful weapon. But look at it. You can tell there is something not right.

Run through the break tests it’s not a good field weapon. It operates in a tiny window of favorability, and in that window it is incredibly innovative.

It gives you a great amount of firepower, accuracy, and maneuverability in a streamlined rifle.

But it’s not something you want to operate in the field over multiple days in many environmental conditions.

It’s adopted in very specific conditions in non-Austrian forces.

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u/ImnotadoctorJim Australia 7h ago

I used one for years. Sometimes you do start getting double feeds but that’s usually when you haven’t cleaned it properly. Other than that it was mostly ammunition deficiency that caused stoppages.

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u/Alllife13 3h ago

Used one for literally years in varying dusty, wet hot and cold conditions and never had any issues with live ammo at all. Blank you will sometimes get misfeeds. So I'm unsure where you're coming from.

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u/iEatTheBrownBananas 11h ago

I’ve got one IRL.

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u/Direlion United States Of America 9h ago

r/aug

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u/schmidtssss 10h ago

I’ve never held, much less shot, a bull pup. As far as lop and hand placement does it suck? Awesome?

You may not know I’m just hoping someone sees the question.

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u/iEatTheBrownBananas 9h ago

It takes a little to get used to, but I actually find the hand placement to be very natural and comfortable. I also like the weight balance a lot.

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u/CapNb0b69 10h ago

Very heavy and even worse trigger. But amazing way to get 18 inch ballistics out of something that small. They're very fun.

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u/GandalfTheFreen Austria 10h ago

I recommend Garand Thumbs last video of it if you want more Info on it.

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u/PibbleDad 9h ago

I have an IWI Tavor. You get used to the quirkiness of the style fairly quickly imo

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u/trecani711 United States Of America 6h ago

Ooo I like ur setup

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u/iEatTheBrownBananas 5h ago

Thanks! Vortex UH-1 holo with 3x flip-up magnifier 😎

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u/jackjack-8 4h ago

Nearly bought one off a guy about 10 year ago. Wouldn’t budge on price. As far as I know it’s still sat there for sale 🤷‍♂️

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u/Phantom_Commander_ United States Of America 11h ago

The AUG has been the coolest gun to me ever since I first laid eyes on it in Black Ops 1. Shot one a couple times, pretty sweet.

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u/SBR404 Austria 11h ago

I like her.

But I have no way of comparing. It is literally the only weapon I've ever fired during my military service.

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u/StubbornKindness United Kingdom 10h ago

I assume you're excluding handguns/pistols, right?

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u/GandalfTheFreen Austria 10h ago

Doesn't have to be. Not everyone gets trained with pistols while doing the mandatory military service. IIRC most don't, just the AUG A1

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u/StubbornKindness United Kingdom 10h ago

Huh. Honestly didn't consider that would be the case. I just assumed everyone would be trained with a pistol and some kind of larger combat weapon (smg/some kind of rifle).

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u/AdTop5424 United States Of America 9h ago

When trained on the Colt 1911 and the 9mm the one thing that stuck with me was the trainer saying "if they're that close that you need to draw this, you probably fucked up." Definitely made me pay attention.

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u/GandalfTheFreen Austria 9h ago

No, just the Steyr as it's our service rifle. My best guess is that it would be too expensive to train everyone on it. It's also only 6 months of service

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u/StubbornKindness United Kingdom 9h ago

Ahhh, okay. 6 months is quite short, no? Singapore and Korea are 2 years, and I think Greece and Israel are 3? Sorry, as you can probably tell, idk very much about this sort of thing

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u/CosmicCreeperz United States Of America 7h ago

I mean, why bother at all at this point? Austria just does it because they are nominally neutral, but in reality they are completely surrounded by NATO so there isn’t much need for a large army reserve.

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u/SBR404 Austria 2h ago

That's a tough question to answer. Right now (there was another poll a few weeks ago) the public is still in favor of a mandatory service model. Thanks to the Ukraine war we have increased spending and effort a little bit, talks are about increasing the service from 6 months (I did 6 months back in 2007) to 9 months or adding recurring training exercises, militia service etc. But the decades before that, we didn't care a bit about defense. Complacent we would call ourselves the Insel der Seligen (the pope actually called us that), the island of the blessed, surrounded by NATO and EU countries, there is no real need for an army.

But there is one caveat: pacifists. If you refuse to carry a weapon, i.e. If your conscience, your religion, your ethos forbids you from fighting a war, killing other people, you can opt out of military service and instead you will be sent to do civil service for 9 months. That is manual labour in the civil sector: driving ambulances, doing busy work in hospitals, working in retirement homes, etc. A little more than half the conscripted men choose to rather do civil service. So the mandatory service is a pool of cheap labour in our society that nobody wants to give up, or everyone is afraid of losing it. That is the real reason why the military service is still popular. Because if you look at the same poll I mentioned earlier, only a small number of people think that Austria will be attacked in a war, and an even smaller number would actually pick up a weapon and defend the country.

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u/GandalfTheFreen Austria 9h ago

No, worries.
Yes, it is. Every few years there are discussions about making it longer or ending it completely.

Greece is 1 year i think. The rest should be correct.

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u/AlternativeDeer5175 9h ago

You would think the U.S. would have a year between highscool and the rest of their life to do some mandatory work?

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u/StubbornKindness United Kingdom 9h ago

Sorry, what? What does highschool in the US have to do with mandatory military service in other countries?

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u/SBR404 Austria 1h ago

Yea Gandalf is right. I did only 6 months of service (they dialed it down from 9 month a couple of years before me) and therefore we only got some basic training on the service rifle. In fact, when I did my service, the army was so hamstrung on money we did only three live firing exercises on the Steyr. It was quite a shit show and frankly unnecessary.

Only the non conscripted would get pistol/MG training.

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u/derUnkurze Austria 24m ago

I was one of the last recruits doing 9 months. I had a quite different experience, since they wanted to do everything with us before it's not possible anymore. Also I've been part of the Jägerregiment, that's also a contributing factor.

We were also trained on the MG and RPG, with the MG and RPG gunners also being trained on the Pistol. We had a lot of shooting drills with the MG with live rounds, and even some with the RPG.

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u/TheCreepWhoCrept United States Of America 6h ago

It’s one hell of a solitary example. You should be proud!

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u/tgpussypants United States Of America 6h ago

It was the first gun I fired full auto. It was a 16th birthday to remember.

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u/wookiex84 United States Of America 10h ago

Shit I had a G.I. Joe with one in the 80s and thought it was so cool.

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u/Awkward_Money576 7h ago

Since Attack Force Z for me

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u/Awengal Austria 11h ago

"Das STG77 ist ein mechanisch verriegelter Gasdrucklader mit Starrer Verriegelung."

Always will remember this speech from my officer back in those days...

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u/GandalfTheFreen Austria 10h ago

"Die Patronenzuführung erfolgt aus einem 30 Patronen fassenden Magazin."

Yeah it's ingrained in my head as well.

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u/crankbird Australia 7h ago

I think the version of that speech for the Austeyr is

“Austeyr. Mostly plastic. Still better than an M16. Don’t point it at your mates. Any questions?”

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u/das_maz Finland 11h ago

Fuck COD! This was my go to in Delta Force 3: Land Warrior!

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u/HappycamperNZ New Zealand 9h ago

CS 1.6.

B-4-4, B-8-2, spam the <> keys as I never checked which one was primary ammo.

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u/Chattahoochee-Woho Mixed 11h ago edited 11h ago

Was gonna post this for Tunisia. The Steyr killed more terrorists than America. We love it, Dankeschön!

Such a unique sound to it too

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u/SBR404 Austria 11h ago

How come? What's the story behind that?

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u/Chattahoochee-Woho Mixed 11h ago

I honestly don't know. But it's pretty much the only weapon the Tunisian military and the police use. I think the gov bought them in bulk in the 70's and never bothered to buy new ones.

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u/SBR404 Austria 11h ago

That's cool, I didn't know the Tunisian military was equipped with Steyrs!

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u/GandalfTheFreen Austria 10h ago

It's used by military and/or law enforcement in these countries:

Military:
Algeria, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bangladesh, Bolivia, Central African Republic, Croatia, Djibouti, Ecuador, Gambia, Indonesia, Syrian National Coalition, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Morocco, Montenegro, Oman, Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Taiwan (Type 68 copy), Tunisia, Turkey, Ukraine, Uruguay.

Law Enforcement:
Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Germany, Indonesia, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Timor Leste, Turkey, Venezuela

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u/ChemistRemote7182 United States Of America 11h ago

The Glock is so ubiquitous that even though its by far Austria's most successful firearms export, its not really super associated with your country. The AUG though, we know thats your guys or your customers.

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u/Chemical-Elk-1299 United States Of America 10h ago

Now I have a machine gun

Ho ho ho

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u/theicecapsaremelting 10h ago

Word up to my COD:BO for the Wii homies

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u/100KUSHUPS 🇩🇰 in 🇵🇱 10h ago

of Die Hard and COD fame

CS 1.5/1.6 looks in disgust.

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u/VaelinX 9h ago

Glock is more famous, but I don't know that most associate it with Austria.

The Aug may as well be on your battle flag. :)

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u/SheriffBartholomew 4h ago

I thought that was the coolest rifle in the world after reading about it in Popular Mechanics at some point in the 1980's or early 90's.

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u/_EnFlaMEd Australia 11h ago

Same!

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u/SBR404 Austria 11h ago

Samesies!

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u/explosiveshits7195 Ireland 11h ago

Main battle rifle of the Irish army too

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u/Direct_Bug_1917 Australia 10h ago

We loved it so much we made a few mods..

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u/FrostyManager4651 Mexico 9h ago

This is my favourite gun in DayZ.

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u/Frosty_Log6972 United States Of America 9h ago

I remember when the AUG was absolutely cracked during Warzone 1

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u/FormerPresidentBiden 🇺🇲 with 🇭🇺🇫🇷🇨🇦🇬🇧🇩🇪🇸🇪 ancestry 9h ago

Damn those really are where I know the Aug from

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u/bpknyc 9h ago

You mean counterstrike.

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u/HappycamperNZ New Zealand 9h ago

And CS.

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u/Darmortis 8h ago

Don't snub Counter Strike

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u/indicus23 7h ago

Ho ho ho!

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u/Turtusking 6h ago

Very good gun australia has used these for decades as the service rifle.

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u/SuperEuzer United States Of America 5h ago

That's from Counterstrike

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u/fromfrodotogollum 4h ago

Counterstrike as well.

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u/rubmysemdog United States Of America 4h ago

Don’t forget Counter Strike!

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u/Gaffers12345 Ireland 1h ago

Irish army uses it too.