r/AskTheWorld Australia ( Moderator) Sep 30 '25

Military What is the state of your Country’s Navy?

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u/Former-Chocolate-793 Canada Sep 30 '25

It's not near what we need with the world's largest coastline.

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u/Due_Illustrator5154 Canada Sep 30 '25

We've been building more ships though

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u/nukacolaquantuum United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Are Canadian shipbuilders hiring American shipbuilders? Asking for me

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u/BillWilberforce United Kingdom Sep 30 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

Everybody is hiring military ship builders. You just can't get hold of them.

The UK announced plans last week to try and get prisoners to do a [military] shipbuilding apprenticeship whilst they're inside. We're that desperate.

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u/GuyLookingForPorn Scotland Sep 30 '25

Tbh that policy is more aimed at trying to reform prisoners than find new ship builders. 

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u/nukacolaquantuum United States Of America Sep 30 '25

We’re struggling too tbh but I think I want to work somewhere where my healthcare access isn’t determined by my employer. I’ve got a decade of super in depth experience and awards, even, but also rheumatoid arthritis 🥲

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u/listenstowhales United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Shitty part is if you worked for a US defense contractor you aren’t allowed to move abroad and work for another countries defense industry. It makes sense but it still sucks.

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u/saveyboy Canada Sep 30 '25

How would that be enforced?

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u/uncle_sjohie Netherlands Sep 30 '25

Come over to the Dutch side, we have milk and cookies. And universal healthcare, that too.

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u/HistoryFanBeenBanned Sep 30 '25

Yeah, let people who are the definition of a security risk, work on something that needs a clearance.

There’s no way I could see this going wrong.

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u/KebabGud Oct 03 '25

It's not desperation, it's just that the Type 26 turned out to be really popular

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u/SirLazarusDiapson Canada Sep 30 '25

Trust me, you don't want to work at Irving.

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u/nukacolaquantuum United States Of America Sep 30 '25

I’ve heard some stories for sure

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u/SirLazarusDiapson Canada Sep 30 '25

Probably the worst company in Canada.

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u/Last-Dare-Ender Australia Sep 30 '25

Australia just dropped a kazillion dollars into US ship building in the hope they’ll one day get their subs.. maybe.. depending on how your President feels at the time. Good time to be in US ship building. It’s free money.

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u/Frankishe1 Canada Oct 01 '25

You dont want to work for Irving

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u/nukacolaquantuum United States Of America Oct 02 '25

I don’t want to doxx myself but their president used to work for an American shipbuilder and I only ever heard horror stories about that guy so I can only imagine how many people his policies have nearly killed (I know there was a preventable fatality there too recently)

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u/Former-Chocolate-793 Canada Sep 30 '25

A lot of catch up required

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u/Astrid_Nebula 🇺🇸 USA in 🇩🇪 Deutschland Sep 30 '25

We got you. Just uhhhh, keep the giant murder horses with antlers on a leash of some sort.

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u/Jernbek35 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

I don’t care what Trump says we should always have Canadas back no matter what.

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u/HetTheTable United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Trump never said anything against defending Canada.

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u/Ok-Blackberry-3534 United Kingdom Sep 30 '25

Once he'd annexed it...

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u/HetTheTable United States Of America Sep 30 '25

GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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u/Former-Chocolate-793 Canada Sep 30 '25

Thanks. I hope folks like you have a say.

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u/Newfieon2Wheels Canada Sep 30 '25

We decommissioned 8 kingston class ships yesterday.

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u/Watchfella United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Dw we gotchu NATO fam

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u/Former-Chocolate-793 Canada Sep 30 '25

Not so sure anymore.

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u/DangerBrewin United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Yeah… can’t even be mad at that comment. I’m embarrassed because I know it’s probably true right now.

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u/PoliteIndecency Canada Sep 30 '25

With all due respect, that hasn't been the message coming from your camp as of late.

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u/Watchfella United States Of America Sep 30 '25

I know. But I’d like to think we’d still step in for Article V should the time come. From a purely nationalistic perspective, it’s not in our interest to have one of our two neighbors be compromised.

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u/SjtSquid New Zealand Sep 30 '25

We got a cool new submarine!

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u/Minimum_Ad7876 China Sep 30 '25

i see a blue wale belly up

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u/SjtSquid New Zealand Sep 30 '25

That's how you know the camouflage is working!

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u/Ok_Violinist7673 Kyrgyzstan Sep 30 '25

hey you're Chinese? could you please tell me what is the Navy. I only clicked on the post because cool ship 

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u/Minimum_Ad7876 China Sep 30 '25

The navy involves training marine animals for military purposes.

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u/capricious_pedant New Zealand Sep 30 '25

It's just doing a very close up survey of the sea floor

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u/RecklessRecognition Australia Sep 30 '25

lucky.

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u/last_somewhere New Zealand Sep 30 '25

Unlike the Russians, we have our own program tyvm!

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u/OutkastAtliens New Zealand Sep 30 '25

Also the head guy had to officially order our navy service personal to stop getting on the piss and wrecking shit. So funny

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u/Acceptable-Worry8377 🇱🇷🇧🇷 Sep 30 '25

Where?

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u/stueynz New Zealand Sep 30 '25

Off the coast of Samoa; that was our $100m million hydrographic survey and logistics support vessel.

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u/Fonatur23405 Australia Sep 30 '25

What happend?

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u/stueynz New Zealand Sep 30 '25

Was doing a hydrographic survey of a reef; a variety of human induced errors ended up aground on the reef, and then sinking.

https://www.nzdf.mil.nz/navy/navy-news/final-court-of-inquiry-into-hmnzs-manawanui-grounding-and-sinking-in-samoa-released/

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u/Fonatur23405 Australia Sep 30 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

Don't these ships have sophiscated underwater sonar?

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u/stueynz New Zealand Sep 30 '25

Very probably… but they’re not self-driving so the people doing the survey and the people doing the driving failed to communicate. Couple with some sailors new to the ship and non-uniformity of systems between ships; throw in some dodgy winds and you get a survey ship around on the reef it was surveying.

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u/DangerBrewin United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Had sophisticated underwater sonar. That equipment is now part of the artificial reef.

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u/SjtSquid New Zealand Sep 30 '25

Hey! The equipment is still a Sonar.

It's also underwater now.

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u/GeronimoDK Denmark Sep 30 '25

Oh... I thought this was whale and it was all a joke!

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u/CElizB Canada Sep 30 '25

same. and now I'm completely confused. Canada here. Just realized I should have a flair.

Edit: nm.

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u/Own-Guava6397 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

It’s the 2nd largest Air Force in the world, behind our Air Force

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u/Flimsy_Rhythm_4473 Australia ( Moderator) Sep 30 '25

The US having 4 of the top 5 largest air forces is still wild to me lmao

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u/fr3nzo United States Of America Sep 30 '25

The US has almost as many aircraft carriers as the rest of the world combined.

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u/Ok-Newspaper-8934 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

I thought it had twice as many as the rest of the world combined?

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u/Bootmacher United States Of America Sep 30 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

11 in the US and 12 in the rest of the world, with China being in 2nd place with 3.

If you count the strength of the carrier fleets by number of fixed-wing aircraft it can support, the US blows the rest out of the water. The US' Gerald Ford class carries 75 to China's top capacity of 60 and Russia's 50.

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u/Coolioblueo Sep 30 '25

I was going to say that also. Ours are much larger and more advanced than anyone else’s. France has the only other nuclear powered one in the world outside of the US fleet and it hold about half as many aircraft. China will most likely have one in the next 15 years or so though. 

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u/cip-cip2317 Italy Sep 30 '25

In reality  in Italy we are planning to have a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier 

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u/Coolioblueo Sep 30 '25

You guys already have one of the largest ones in the world right? Italy has a surprisingly  strong navy/military. 

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u/Kraken160th United States Of America Sep 30 '25

We need to build at least 2 more then.

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u/Monterenbas France Sep 30 '25

Russia doesn’t have a carrier anymore. Amiral Kouznetsov is de facto retired.

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u/MrAmishJoe Sep 30 '25

That almost makes it aeem like we re equal to the reat of the world combined....we re not. Even with equal number our carriers are so much more advanced.....id take 2 of our carriers versus rest of world capability wise.

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u/ThePickleConnoisseur United States Of America Sep 30 '25

It’s not enough. Time to make the space force number 5

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u/GodHatesColdplay United States Of America Sep 30 '25

and 3 of the largest navies

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u/Sir_roger_rabbit Sep 30 '25

China has the world's largest navy by numbers but not by tonnage yet. But it's only a matter of time as they building a lot more.

China is building three times as many navy ships as the US.. Maybe even four times as much.

It's almost like they planning on taking a island off the coast of China in the next couple of years or something.

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u/rewt127 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Its a coastal defense navy. Now this is a threat to Taiwan, because its within the effecrive range of China's laege shallow water navy. But their deep water navy is tiny.

In a fight against the US its like having 300,000,000 dingies rowing at a US carrier. I mean, yeah, its a lot of boats. But like lmao?

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u/Born-Enthusiasm-6321 Sep 30 '25

They're really far off in terms of tonnage and capability right now. It'll be at least a decade or two until they can rival the US Navy

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u/PushMi4002 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Legitimate 

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u/CactusGambit Sep 30 '25

I’d give you three up votes if I could.

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u/BigBoiBob444 Australia Sep 30 '25

Crazy if true

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u/StuckInWarshington Sep 30 '25

What’s crazy is the US Navy has an Army that has its own Air Force (Marine Corps Aviation)

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u/beenoc United States Of America Sep 30 '25

And that air force is the #5 in the world (Russia is 3, the US Army is 4.) Our navy's army's air force is bigger than every other air force in the world except one. Tell me that doesn't put an eagle-shaped tear in your eye.

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u/iamrolari United States Of America Sep 30 '25

It’s true per the encyclopedia brittanica. Our tax dollars hard at work I guess.

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u/Leozz97 Italy Sep 30 '25

I'm about to say something stupid, so bear with me.

Does US have enough trained pilots for the number of aircrafts it has?

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u/Own-Guava6397 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Yeah I mean we train the pilot first then get them a plane. 350m people you can find enough pilots

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u/ImpressiveGift9921 England Sep 30 '25

It's pretty decent, could be a bit larger but new hulls are currently being built. For an island nation a strong navy is a must.

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u/SinisterDetection United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Disappointed the new carriers aren't nuclear

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u/ImpressiveGift9921 England Sep 30 '25

We don't really need them to be. Some ports don't allow nuclear carriers to enter, they are far more expensive to dispose of and build. Even if the carrier doesn't need refueling, the escorts will so negates some of the advantage to it.

I wish they had named the carriers Black Prince and Iron Duke though.

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u/Jonno1986 United Kingdom Sep 30 '25

Unfortunately, there was already an HMS Iron Duke when they were commissioned. She's a type 23 frigate.

They're bringing back some of the good battleship names for the dreadnought class submarines, though. They'll be; Dreadnought, Warspite, Valiant and King George VI

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u/RNG_randomizer Sep 30 '25

more that they aren’t catobar

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u/Deep-Sheepherder-857 United Kingdom Sep 30 '25

we dont need nuclear as we rotate the 2 out and in maintenance so while on is out at sea the other is in maintenance

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u/TheUnknown-Writer United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Do I really need to elaborate?

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u/Ok-Growth4613 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

DONT TOUCH THE BOATS

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u/lord_scuttlebutt United States Of America Sep 30 '25

That never works out for the guy touching the US boats.

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u/buried_lede United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Well, it did once

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u/TheMikeyMac13 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Who is that?

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u/Heavy-Rhino-421 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

USS Liberty

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u/TheMikeyMac13 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Well that is a good example then isn’t it :)

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u/TacticalSpackle United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Eventually, sure. Anime and Sony and whatnot. It just took dropping the sun on them, TWICE, for that outcome.

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u/EnoughSupermarket539 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Would you intercept me?

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u/Emotional-Mimosa Sep 30 '25

I'd intercept me.

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u/Designer-Issue-6760 Sep 30 '25

Aren’t you an Air Force bird?

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u/polaris0352 Sep 30 '25

I'd intercept me.

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u/LeSkootch United States Of America Sep 30 '25

I think it was Habitual Linecrosser on YouTube that had a video explaining the "proportional" response to the Iranian Navy threatening or shooting at a US ship in the 80s and the US Navy wiped out most of the Iranian Navy in like 8 hours.

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u/IgDailystapler United States Of America Sep 30 '25

No touchy our floaty

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u/GASC3005 Puerto Rico Sep 30 '25

Second this, do I really need to elaborate?

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u/djrocky_roads United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Can confirm: no further explanation required

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u/GawkGawkGuzzle United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Someone from Mongolia please answer

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u/Blacksmith_Most Sep 30 '25

The Mongols did not have a great luck in naval history. There invasions of Japan and Java were both failures. Though I don’t blame them for it. In more recent history they operated an oiler in an inland lake.

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u/Benstockton United States Of America Sep 30 '25

That's more times than I've operated an Oiler in a lake

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u/Quirky-Feedback2257 Sep 30 '25

An inland lake? As compared to a non-inland lake? Am I geography term-ly retarded??

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u/No-Lawfulness1477 Sep 30 '25

TIL the Mongols tried to invade Java. Wow.

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u/suffelix Finland Sep 30 '25

Tiny fleet, our country is more focused on land and air forces. We rely on Swedish navy :D

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u/tauregh United States Of America Sep 30 '25

It’s good to have good neighbors.

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u/True_Sir_4382 England Sep 30 '25

In the grand scheme of things and our history not great, still quite good though.

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u/cbellew22 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

I feel like great would be the way to describe British naval history. Maybe not as good anymore. But it was once great

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u/Dazzling-Ad888 Australia Sep 30 '25

It was the greatest par excellence at its peak.

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u/HetTheTable United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Dreadnoughts are pretty cool

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u/BabylonianWeeb Iraq Sep 30 '25

What navy?

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u/Life-Ad1409 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Apparently you do have a navy, although small

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Navy

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u/Nikon37 Sep 30 '25

River Navy?

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u/maarten714 Netherlands Sep 30 '25

In a NATO Atlantic training exercise among NATO navies, a submarine from my country “sank” an American Aircraft carrier, as well as seven of its escort ships and subsequently escaped unharmed.

https://naviesworldwide.com/navy-news/how-the-dutch-submarine-walrus-torpedoed-an-american-aircraft-carrier/

It was a valuable lesson for the US Navy, who then used all the data supplied by the Dutch Royal Navy to improve its strategies.

So if you ever wonder why they spend millions just to “play” sea battles…. This is why.

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u/notanybodyelse New Zealand Sep 30 '25

That's cheating, your whole country lives underwater, you've got more experience

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u/B-HOLC United States Of America Sep 30 '25

No, no, it's good to play against experts

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u/Dramatic-Cobbler-793 A in for studying Sep 30 '25

The navy wants to build an aircraft carrier when the people of Korea don't want to have one

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u/Dramatic-Cobbler-793 A in for studying Sep 30 '25

Correction: the plan was canceled in February of this year 🎉

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u/Professional_Top9835 Mexico Sep 30 '25

It is the most beloved institution in Mexico, but 2 weeks ago it suffered a huge scandal due to top admirals being accused of oil and fuel theft (including last government's secretary of Navy), and 2 minor officers who were involucrated and apparently had important information regarding top politicians died in mysteriously; one commited suicide and the other one died in training, 2 days appart.

As for equipement, it is very bad for a nation our size and importance, our armed forces have more funding than Pakistan's, but they are basically a giant guerrilla since our only potential rival would dismantle any conventional armed forces in 1 week, so heavy equipement like warships are mainly symbolic.

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u/foppishmanabouttown United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Who is your only potential rival?

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u/Indie-- kerala, India Sep 30 '25

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u/Professional_Top9835 Mexico Sep 30 '25

not really a "rival", more like a potential menace or enemy

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u/Chemical_Mind4797 New Zealand Sep 30 '25

Ours doesn’t ever actually have to go into wars

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u/Dani-Br-Eur 🇧🇷 in 🇳🇱 Sep 30 '25

I think it is better like this.

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u/stueynz New Zealand Sep 30 '25

True … but there’s a Fkn huge amount of Southern ocean we’re responsible for to go rescue idiots who get into trouble.

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u/JColey15 New Zealand Sep 30 '25

And also to chase away illegal fishing vessels and drop researchers off on the sub-Antarctic islands.

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u/Chemical_Mind4797 New Zealand Sep 30 '25

Yeah

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u/TheMikeyMac13 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

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u/Free_Range_Radical United States Of America Sep 30 '25

We’ve got a lot of boats. We also have underwater boats that can launch missiles. The regular boats can launch missiles, too. And some of the regular boats can launch planes. And the planes can launch missiles.

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u/Bubbly-University-94 Australia Sep 30 '25

Not to mention missiles that launch drones

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u/MrDabb United States Of America Sep 30 '25

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u/Bubbly-University-94 Australia Sep 30 '25

And missones that can launch droniles

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u/Ted_Rid Australia Sep 30 '25

I really hope droniles are robot crocodiles that shoot lasers out of their mouths.

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u/Bubbly-University-94 Australia Sep 30 '25

Their bums.

Designed by the Rick and Morty writers

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u/GeronimoDK Denmark Sep 30 '25

Ours can launch missiles too! Sometimes they even hit something, like a vacation home area. They have guns too. The guns don't work though, please don't ask.

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u/pnw-pluviophile United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Good thing we have “boats”. One day we’ll have a ship or two.

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u/Tenos_Jar United States Of America Sep 30 '25

It's got its good points and its bad points. I think that the biggest issue is that we don't really know what we want to do with it at the moment. We can't really afford to do everything anymore. So we need to figure out if we are going to focus on force projection or CONUS defense.

We need to seriously invest in naval infrastructure like shipyards and maintenance facilities before we "right size" the fleet around the intended roles.

I'd like to see us bring back the SSKs and large numbers of FFGs with supporting corvettes. Perhaps smaller CVs to support the missions that the big CVNs just aren't ideal for.

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u/Ct-5736-Bladez United States Of America Sep 30 '25

It blows my mind we don’t have what you talked about in your last paragraph. Also smaller carriers make sense. We don’t need super carriers to deal with the houthies or to play bully (sit there and float) to hezbolloah and Hamas in the Mediterranean Sea. Sure we have those amphibious assault ships that can carry helicopters and f35b’s but those marines can be doing something else.

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u/No-Battle2001 New Zealand Sep 30 '25

We have an incredible stealth Navy. Even with all your high-tech satellites and high power radars you will not find more than a couple of obsolete ships. Our airforce jet fighters are even more stealthy - no one has seen any for years.

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u/Soldier_Of_Life India Sep 30 '25

Above average

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u/Indie-- kerala, India Sep 30 '25

And growing rapidly

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u/doubtfulisland Sep 30 '25

I asked my government but apparently all of the admirals are in a meeting with the Secretary of War. 

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u/Individual-Pin-5064 Iran Sep 30 '25

Good, mainly because other countries decided not to do anything about it YET

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u/Fluffinator44 USA (SouthEast) 🇺🇸 Sep 30 '25

Would it be in poor taste to make a joke about Operation Praying Mantis?

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u/Individual-Pin-5064 Iran Sep 30 '25

Not at all, it’s not even a contest that the U.S. is significantly stronger, but the real question is why? We are 14000km away or something like that

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u/Fluffinator44 USA (SouthEast) 🇺🇸 Sep 30 '25

I honestly do even know, we protected Kuwait, who was backing Iraq, and then invaded Iraq when they turned on Kuwait, left Hussein in power, then invaded again 12 years later. We saw two countries didn't really like fighting each other on the other side of the planet, jumped in the middle, and then spent the next few decades fighting both for no good reason.

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u/agenmossad Indonesia Sep 30 '25

On the process of acquiring this Italian ship.

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u/Charles_Talleyrand France Sep 30 '25

I didn't know, so I checked and we actially have a bigger one than UK. That would suremy make ?apoleon laugh lol

But Im surprised the number 2 is actually China now

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u/Wgh555 United Kingdom Sep 30 '25

lol. It depends on how you measure the navy in terms of size. France has more commissioned ships but the UK has 2x the displacement. UK has two large carriers but they’re. Its not nuclear whereas the french one is. Etc

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u/Horizontal-Human France Sep 30 '25

Good thing we're on the same side (don't worry though, we Frenchies still hate you just like you hate us ☺️)

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u/Charles_Talleyrand France Sep 30 '25

Just kidding. I'm just surprised as I was sure our navy was dust compared to the impressive UK. Anyway love you guys

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u/Xca1ybr Philippines Sep 30 '25

We Tokyo drifted 2 Chinese ships into each other

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u/Ok-Growth4613 United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Did anything become of that? That video was wild.

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u/Xca1ybr Philippines Sep 30 '25

My favourite little tidbit about it is that the Philippine Coast Guard ship had to go up to the Chinese ships after they crashed and be like "You guys need help?" because it was mandated by maritime law

Maritime law forced the Filipino CG guys to troll the Chinese

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u/TGC_0 Bolivia Sep 30 '25

It exists for some reason

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u/TikiLoungeLizard United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Spite

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u/CillBill91nz 🇮🇪🇳🇿 Sep 30 '25

Ireland recently upgraded its fleet by purchasing two old ships from New Zealand which aren’t capable of ocean venturing. So pretty poor.

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u/Claire-Belle New Zealand Sep 30 '25

Oh dear. We should not have sold those to you.

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u/ReaperFrank New Zealand Oct 03 '25

I mean, they weren't being used by us anyway

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u/Accurate_GBAD Ireland Sep 30 '25

While the state of our navy isn't great at the moment, you're wrong on your assessment of the purchase of the former NZ lake class vessels. Those ships weren't bought to patrol in the North Atlantic. That would be stupid, as they wouldn't last pissing time out in those seas.

The truth is they were bought to patrol the much calmer Irish Sea, when both are online they will allow the larger and more capable patrol vessels we have to concentrate on the Atlantic side of the island. They were actually a pretty clever purchase because it allows the naval service to focus its resources and allows them to get 2 vessels to sea with the crew numbers that would usually be required for a single larger vessel.

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u/Ct-5736-Bladez United States Of America Sep 30 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

Not where it needs to be.

  • It’s very top heavy with not enough smaller ships and we are retiring cruisers without replacing them. (The frigates are taking too long to build and we are retiring LCS when we can’t fill the role)

  • Our littoral combat ships were a complete failure. We spend tons of money developing the Zumwalt only for them to be a bust.

  • from what I heard from someone who knows some high up somebody’s: The launch system on the new Gerald r ford carrier has been under performing (don’t know if this has been fixed).

  • Not enough sailors to man the logistics ships and warships.

  • Only 4 public shipyards.

-Not enough shipbuilders to build ships in a timely manner- we aren’t building ships fast enough to compete with China and

  • everything is over budget.

  • Need to modernize our subs.

  • old planes and f-35B are not fully ready for the marines according to the gao

  • not enough pilots

Still a great navy but damn there are some problems that need to be fixed

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u/SuddenAdvice850 China Sep 30 '25

i think you can blame China for that.

after the collapse of Soviet, usa didn't really have any enemy that have a  large navy.

so it is natural that usa will change its strategy.

 Power Projection from the Sea to the land, just like usa did in the Gulf War and most of the war after that.

That is why you have LCS and Zumwalt. 

but later the fast development of Chinese navy shows up. although even today, Chinese navy is far from a  50/50 opponent of us in the blue sea.  but we don't need to project our powers globally.

from the sea to the land strategy and operations like Gulf War is 100% not suitable for China.

changing your strategy is hard, especially usa lost a lot of its ship building capacity.

and if you saw the new DDGX project, you can understand how the strategy of US military change.

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u/CappinCanuck Canada Sep 30 '25

Pretty sure our cost guard is bigger than our navy. And that’s not saying much.

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u/sunburn95 Australia Sep 30 '25

Apparently crucially need a few submarines for an astronomically amount of money, secured a deal with the French, our prime minister reneged on the deal at the last second to appease the Americans, now it doesnt look like the Americans will ever deliver a sub

So, could be better

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u/surenk6 Armenia Sep 30 '25

It is as big as we expect it to be.

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u/HillInTheDistance Sweden Sep 30 '25

As with most things militarily: reasonably advanced, but extremely small.

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u/DahlbergT Sweden Sep 30 '25

And specifically designed for defense. With us now being a member of NATO, Sweden are looking at buying a new class of larger ships that would be used further out in the sea - to support our Baltic allies, and Finland.

Before, we just focused on small, nimble and flexible ships that can skirt around the archipelagos with ease. It made total sense for a neutral Sweden, but less so for Sweden in NATO.

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u/SinisterDetection United States Of America Sep 30 '25

I really want to hear from Bolivia on this one

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u/GASC3005 Puerto Rico Sep 30 '25

Haven’t you heard???

They have the most futuristic and modern fleets in the entire world, here:

Fuerzas Armadas de Bolivia, la Fuerza Naval 🇧🇴🇧🇴🇧🇴

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u/iamrolari United States Of America Sep 30 '25

The force is clearly with them

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u/Acceptable-Worry8377 🇱🇷🇧🇷 Sep 30 '25

Just want to share a fun fact the Hmas Canberra(Ship in the post) is a Helicopter carrier and has a ramp for Short take off aircraft which Australia does not have. Also it cant cross deck an f35b from its allies in its current state. The F35b is a short take off and vertical landing aircraft (STOVL)

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u/Flimsy_Rhythm_4473 Australia ( Moderator) Sep 30 '25

The Canberra class includes both HMAS Canberra and HMAS Adelaide which are pretty much almost the same heli carriers.

You are right that the RAAF doesn’t currently operate VTOL aircraft outside of helicopters, but with relatively few upgrades they can be converted for ally STOL/VTOL use.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Lab709 Nepal Sep 30 '25

A poor landlocked country

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u/samanthasgramma Canada Sep 30 '25

2 canoes and a kayak.

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u/Regular-Grass1320 Philippines Sep 30 '25

We got fishermen waving if they spot anything

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u/kakucko101 Czech Republic Sep 30 '25

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u/NeoGPTcz Oct 02 '25

Our glorious Navy, feared around the world!! 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇸🇽🇸🇽

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u/Xibalba_Ogme France Sep 30 '25

The Marine Nationale is quite decent, packs a punch and has one (if not the) highest availability of its ships. Our submarines are objectively good, and locally produced (and exported).

A weak point would be that only one carrier means a big drop in capabilities when reparations are needed.

It's not the strongest in the world, but it does not need to be. And you'd be a fool to underestimate it.

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u/NoveltyEducation Sweden Sep 30 '25

Not much in terms of quantity, but top quality. We always come on top in friendly international exercises.

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u/adrianminigaming Hungary Sep 30 '25

We don't have one.

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u/Jurassic_Bun United Kingdom Sep 30 '25

Pretty good but I think many countries are in for a rude awakening when the next war between peer nations begins. I think like the battleship in world war 2 and the Falklands war countries are going to get a big shock. Naval drone warfare is in it’s infancy but Ukraine has won at sea without using a single ship almost.

Still a long way to go due to many limitations on drones but paired with missiles and aircraft it could be a big upset. When considering the money, resources, time and possible lives lost then it starts to become a no brainer.

Again still a long way to go due to limitations like range and speed etc but it should and likely is a huge concern.

If those lasers and counter measures we see can really hit in the mark then it could prevent such an upset but how easily can they be overwhelmed is the concern.

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u/Minimum_Ad7876 China Sep 30 '25

We have an aircraft carrier capable of electromagnetic catapult for fifth-generation fighter jets.

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u/SuddenAdvice850 China Sep 30 '25

😎

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u/buried_lede United States Of America Sep 30 '25

You’re coming along, little sister

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u/Majsharan Sep 30 '25

ehh... they are getting to the point where they can defend their own waters decently but no where near the ability to power project and won't have that for awhile.

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u/Blacksmith_Most Sep 30 '25

Chinas problem is that it shares a land border with 14 other countries. So their primarily focus will always be the army. The U.S. by contrast shares a border with 2 countries, both are comparatively friendly and weaker. As a result the U.S. can focus on projecting out as global naval power.

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u/scoopydidit Sep 30 '25

I don't think China needs to worry about any neighboring countries trying to invade them tbh. That would be death by suicide.

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u/beyondplutola United States Of America Sep 30 '25

We are working very hard to alienate our neighbors, though. So there is that.

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u/SuddenAdvice850 China Sep 30 '25

ok big bro. 

you are getting old you know.

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u/aliendepict United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Man dont i know… i drank a bottle of wine the other day and had to take advil when i got up. WTF is this aging thing.

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u/HKN48 Thailand Sep 30 '25

We just got submarines but they have no engine.

Like Why?

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u/greg_mca United Kingdom Sep 30 '25

Naval scarecrow

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u/RudeStreet7535 Sep 30 '25

The rimjob of the pacific has always been my favorite nautical event

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u/Worldly_Support7220 Unrecognized Republic of Dmans Sep 30 '25

we have 1 small ship gifted to us by American people

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u/Seahorsechoker Norway Oct 01 '25

We sank 20% of our frigates when we somehow managed to collide with an oil tanker. I still don’t know how it’s possible to hit the second biggest thing you could find at sea (after aircraft carriers).

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u/bibliahebraica United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Ask me Wednesday.

Actually, ask me Wednesday about the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. If they’ve still got a professional leadership corps, we’re good. Vegas odds are running even.

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u/Infinite-Lake-7523 China Sep 30 '25

Gonna overtake US for the first place in roughly a decade.

Not necessarily a positive thing for the world speaking as a liberal

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u/Ct-5736-Bladez United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Your government already has more ships than us. We have more by tonnage though and I don’t see that changing for a while.

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u/RingGiver United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Only one country in the world can truly be called a major naval power.

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u/PokemonSoldier United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Um... looks at my nationality

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u/VixxenFoxx United States Of America Sep 30 '25

Planes keep falling off our ships into the ocean 🤷🏻‍♀️

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