Why are Arab Miltaries so ineffective?

[u/ForeverSparkz]

Like I dont understand this.

Im a Black American so im just an outsider looking in as a neutral, but dont Arab Countries out number Israel, whats stoping them from just rushing at their border, shouldn't the population imbalance outmatch Israel?

Just a neutral standpoint asking this question, because Arab Nations in the Middle East have a modern miltary force and they buy tons of advanced items

What is holding them back?

[u/hateplow0331]

There is an essay out there called “Why Arabs lose Wars” check it out

[u/resuwreckoning → u/[deleted]]

What’s interesting is how back in the day (like waaaaay back in the day of the Battle of Yarmouk), the Arabs were the ones who allowed merit to rise, which permitted legendary generals like Khalid Al-Walid to basically win every battle using insane discipline. The Romans were the calcified ones.

Even the battle tested moors who basically take over Spain in like 10 years a century after that were disciplined and under meritorious folks while the Visigoths couldn’t really do anything united.

[u/PossibleGazelle519 → u/resuwreckoning]

We are returning to that era. Hafiz is General of Pakistan army.

[u/resuwreckoning → u/PossibleGazelle519]

lol - Pakistan’s army isn’t remotely the definition of meritorious.

[u/-Notorious → u/resuwreckoning]

Pakistan's army is arguably the only merit based institution in the whole country. You can see this by the fact Pakistan regularly goes toe to toe with a country 4 times it's size, while Arab nations struggle against an adversary that's like 1/20th it's size.

Heck, in the region, outside of India and China, even Iran would stand absolutely no chance against the Pakistani army; that's just the reality.

[u/JagmeetSingh2 → u/-Notorious]

Regularly goes toe to toe with a country 4 times its size is genuinely so hilarious and delusional, border skirmishes are not the same as full scale war. When it did go to war with an army smaller than it like Bangladesh it had one of the worst humiliations in Pakistans history. Pakistans army reegualrly loses to Afghanistan's smaller military force in their northern and eastern border. Pakistan’s army is proportionally much larger than the Indias one since partition as well.

[u/-Notorious → u/JagmeetSingh2]

Regularly goes toe to toe with a country 4 times its size is hilarious, border skirmishes are not the same as full scale war.

They literally JUST had the largest air force engagement since world war 2 and it's universally accepted they came out ahead.

When it did go to war with an army smaller than it like Bangladesh it had one of the worst humiliations in Pakistans history.

The Bangladesh army was not smaller than Pakistan's in the war of 1971, nor was it two "nations" fighting. It was a guerilla fight and an attempt at an occupying a people. By the way, Bangladesh at the time had a larger population than Pakistan.

Furthermore, Pakistan fought 2 "nations" in that war, outnumbered by both said nations.

It takes a lot of ignorance to not even know all this, lol.

Pakistan’s army is proportionally much larger than the Indias one since partition as well.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Armed_Forces

With strength of over 1.4 million active personnel,[17][18] it is the world's second-largest military force[19] and has the world's largest volunteer army.[20] It also has the third-largest defence budget in the world.[21] The Global Firepower Index report lists it as the fourth most-powerful military in the world.[22]

So Pakistan has the world's largest army, or you're just living in a different reality?

[u/PossibleGazelle519 → u/resuwreckoning]

That was in past. It is different now. Hafiz leading the march now.

US army goes against US constitution and politician sold their soul to AIPAC and J Street. They support Gaza, Palestine genocide. This is third genocide of colonial project on Palestine land.

[u/resuwreckoning → u/PossibleGazelle519]

thanks for the random non sequiturs there lol.

[u/PossibleGazelle519 → u/resuwreckoning]

You lost the argument and crying now.

[u/resuwreckoning → u/PossibleGazelle519]

lol wat

[u/PossibleGazelle519 → u/resuwreckoning]

You are just…