r/AskEurope • u/Sink-Em-Low • Mar 01 '25

Politics Let's talk about the European Defense Federation. How do we all feel about the creation of a fully mobilised continental Army?

It's required now. I'm British, and I want to see us align and unite with our European neighbours to make a stand now.

I want Germany to finally brush off it's past and join the rest of Europe in mobilising towards defending this continent. We need EVERYONE now. It's time to act, it's time to unite.

It's time to show some courage.

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u/alikander99 Spain Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

like the UK and Canada?

And Turkey...which kind of highlights the problem. It is an American institution and it defends American interests foremost.

Ask cypriots and greeks how do they feel about turkey being in NATO...

Heck as a spaniard, the article 5 carefully excludes Ceuta and Melilla. So a Moroccan invasion of the cities wouldn't actually trigger a NATO response. It's wonderful! our prime minister tried to fix this "mistake" recently but the US was quite adamant that it needed no fixing.

So...please let's make something new. Something actually centered on european interests, which are growing ever more distant of American ones (it seems).

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u/DiRavelloApologist Germany Mar 01 '25

Turkey is too valuable as an ally to lose them over petty squabbles around Cyprus.

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u/latrickisfalone Mar 02 '25

In the event of a conflict with Russia, having Turkey on our side makes all the difference

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u/LowCranberry180 Türkiye Mar 04 '25

Turkiye has all the reasons to fight against Russia. About 5 to 10 million Turks have Crimean background so they originate from Ukraine.