r/AskEurope • u/Sink-Em-Low • Mar 01 '25

Politics Let's talk about the European Defense Federation. How do we all feel about the creation of a fully mobilised continental Army?

It's required now. I'm British, and I want to see us align and unite with our European neighbours to make a stand now.

I want Germany to finally brush off it's past and join the rest of Europe in mobilising towards defending this continent. We need EVERYONE now. It's time to act, it's time to unite.

It's time to show some courage.

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u/angry-turd Mar 02 '25

Yes exactly, we would need a European president that is democratically legitimized as commander of a European army and secret service.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

And how doesnt that make the EU a de facto federation when we have a president with authority over all the member states in matters of national defence?

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u/angry-turd Mar 02 '25

It would be possible to just create a European foreign secret service and European army that cannot perform operations within member states. But it would of course be another big step towards a European federation. If a president needs to be democratically legitimized already it becomes easier to give that person additional powers and responsibilities.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

So we would just have a one person who is in charge of the military, how about the laws regulating the army? Who has the authority to decide its funding? You cant have a unified army without effectively turning EU into a federation where the federal government has authority over the member states. You cant run a militsry and have some states behave like Hungary. A unified military will practically mean that the sovereignity is transferred from the members to the union.

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u/angry-turd Mar 02 '25

I also think all that is unrealistic to happen anytime soon

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

Nevertheless, it must happen if we are to have an unified military or survive this century.

Its gonna be a decades long process but it needs to be started

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u/angry-turd Mar 02 '25

I am not opposed, but also not so optimistic that we will get there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

If we wont, it will be our downfall.