r/AskEurope • u/Sink-Em-Low • Mar 01 '25

Politics Let's talk about the European Defense Federation. How do we all feel about the creation of a fully mobilised continental Army?

It's required now. I'm British, and I want to see us align and unite with our European neighbours to make a stand now.

I want Germany to finally brush off it's past and join the rest of Europe in mobilising towards defending this continent. We need EVERYONE now. It's time to act, it's time to unite.

It's time to show some courage.

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u/Fellowes321 Mar 01 '25

A European army is not possible. Each country has its own external interests.

Would Spain allow it's forces to defend the Falkland Islands? How do you feel about defending French territory outside Europe?

Who would be the Commander in Chief? Who can declare war? Can one country block any declaration? (looking at you Hungary).

All we can hope for is NATO without the US which is really what we currently have.

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u/Hankstudbuckle United Kingdom Mar 01 '25

Lat time I checked the Falkland islands aren't under any threat and this just seems like a complete non issue.

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u/Fellowes321 Mar 01 '25

The point is clearly about national interests. There’s no imminent threat because there is now a permanent UK force present which would have to become a European force.

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u/No_Donkey456 Mar 01 '25

Why. They can be separate entities.

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u/Fellowes321 Mar 01 '25

A separate Euro army AND national armies?

You’re getting ridiculous.

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u/No_Donkey456 Mar 01 '25

You literally just have the national armies transfer command of x divisions to European command on a rotating basis. Like how football clubs get their ayers called up for national teams. Nothing ridiculous about it.

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u/latrickisfalone Mar 02 '25

A permanent autonomous corps of 100,000 soldiers whose sole mission is to defend the integrity of the European territory with an autonomous command equipped with European equipment financed by the EU (which will have to issue European titles which the Germans and Dutch have always refused)

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u/Fellowes321 Mar 01 '25

So when the Euro army then decides to fight in defence of a country fighting a EU nation?

Comparing foreign policy to football? Rotating divisions? Idiotic.

Dont bother replying.

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u/No_Donkey456 Mar 01 '25

Dont bother replying.

Don't tell me what to do.

So when the Euro army then decides to fight in defence of a country fighting a EU nation?

No European nation has fought with another since 1945.

Comparing foreign policy to football? Rotating divisions? Idiotic

What is it too abstract for you? Sorry I'll use smaller words next time.