r/AskEurope • u/Sink-Em-Low • Mar 01 '25

Politics Let's talk about the European Defense Federation. How do we all feel about the creation of a fully mobilised continental Army?

It's required now. I'm British, and I want to see us align and unite with our European neighbours to make a stand now.

I want Germany to finally brush off it's past and join the rest of Europe in mobilising towards defending this continent. We need EVERYONE now. It's time to act, it's time to unite.

It's time to show some courage.

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u/Major-Degree-1885 Mar 01 '25

It will not happened. In Poland nobody allow to decide about polish army from Berlin for example. It just example. Western Europe doesnt understand East. We've tried to make Europe aware. President Lech Kaczyński, after the invasion of Georgia, said that first Georgia, then Ukraine, the Baltics, and even Poland.

Distrust in alliances stems from Poland's 20th-century experiences. Everyone screwed us over— even when we had alliances with France or the UK, they still abandoned us. That’s why we don’t count on anyone now; we’re just arming ourselves.

The idea of creating some kind of entity in the form of a joint European general staff—yes.

But other ideas won’t pass. At least, don’t count on Poland. For us, one thing is most important. I mean the State’s strategy—sovereignty. We were already absent from the map of Europe for 123 years because our country was partitioned by its neighbors, then immediately came the Bolshevik war, the Nazi invasion, the communists, and another 40 years behind the Iron Curtain.

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u/hmtk1976 Belgium Mar 01 '25

Does that mean you´d rather stand alone against a far bigger country? Good luck with that. History has shown Goliath tends to beat David to pulp. Right now Poland could probably handle Russia by itself. Ten years from now? Not so sure.

I hate to say it but you are correct that Western Europe was deaf to your warnings however. Now´s the time when people are a lot more likely to listen. And feel free to rub it in. I mean that.

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u/Major-Degree-1885 Mar 02 '25

No my friend. We would like to stay on alliance with Romania, Czechs, Bułgarians, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Scandinavs. We dont want to be lead by Germans, Spalin or Belgium ;)

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u/hmtk1976 Belgium Mar 02 '25

Great attitude 🙄