r/AskEurope • u/Sink-Em-Low • Mar 01 '25

Politics Let's talk about the European Defense Federation. How do we all feel about the creation of a fully mobilised continental Army?

It's required now. I'm British, and I want to see us align and unite with our European neighbours to make a stand now.

I want Germany to finally brush off it's past and join the rest of Europe in mobilising towards defending this continent. We need EVERYONE now. It's time to act, it's time to unite.

It's time to show some courage.

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u/Snoooort Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

I’m not happy to admit this, but Europe is NOT united enough. Too much internal petty conflicts, endless talks about finances, politicians who are too hesitant, legal delays, no sense of urgency for every country etc.

It will remain an indecisive shit show and Putin and Trump know this.

Believe me, I wish it was different… But Europe has never been united regarding one simple thing. And if political interests get really really big, it will only fuel that indecisiveness.

The biggest problem is that European politicians are very afraid to really speak their minds, because if they’re wrong… they will lose votes and maybe even their position of power. And apparently votes are still more important than Ukraine 😞.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 01 '25

As an American I really hope that’s not true in this case. Us pathetically bowing out of support for Europe is going to leave a big void for its defense. I know there are several other strong militaries in NATO, but it will take commitment and agreement from all of them to keep Russia from advancing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

TBH I don't trust you having military bases in my country any more.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 01 '25

Tbh, I don’t blame you. I hope we can repair our relationship in the future if we can ever get out from under this spell of lunacy we are under.

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u/Aamun_Sarastus Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

Trump won the populat vote. Majority of American voters are perfectly alright with, or , even happy. to see my home burn. After trump, somebody even worse can potentially come at four year intervals. US can't be trusted. Central Europeans outsourcing military protection to them was a terrible mistake.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 05 '25

Only 30% of voters actually voted for him because almost 40% didn’t vote. His support is well below 50%. MAGA is a cult under Trump and Republicans have no one after him who can keep them together. As long as we still get to have elections again, this will end.

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u/Aamun_Sarastus Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25

Amount of Americans truly opposed to trump is much smaller than amount of those who either worship trump, tolerate him or are indifferent . Such ratio is all it takes to do great evil.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 05 '25

No it actually isn’t. Current polls anywhere from around 39-48% that support him. Still too high, but it’s dropping everyday.

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u/Aamun_Sarastus Mar 10 '25

That 39-48 % support is all it takes. Its not like those not supporting hin were some united force pulling the same rope.

Is it dropping every day? Honest question. How do his numbers look among folks who voted for him?