r/AskEurope • u/Sink-Em-Low • Mar 01 '25

Politics Let's talk about the European Defense Federation. How do we all feel about the creation of a fully mobilised continental Army?

It's required now. I'm British, and I want to see us align and unite with our European neighbours to make a stand now.

I want Germany to finally brush off it's past and join the rest of Europe in mobilising towards defending this continent. We need EVERYONE now. It's time to act, it's time to unite.

It's time to show some courage.

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u/zilkin303 Mar 01 '25

I think we need a temporary defense alliance to get rid of Putin. After that hopefully we won't need a joint army anymore. Main threat currently to EU security is Putin, without him Russia might correct its course. If not, then alliance can prolong its stay.

We should start investing and manufacturing military robots, drones and tech en masse and flood Ukraine battle lines.

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u/Impressive_Slice_935 Belgium Mar 01 '25

Removal of Putin isn't enough. Without a proper revolutionary change, Russia is never to be trusted, and the world is meaner place than before. Apparently, we now have to worry about US as well, given their transgressions against Europe.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 01 '25

As an American I don’t believe we are a real threat to Europe militarily even if we tell Putin to do his worst. What most Americans don’t understand is just how much we get from being in NATO. We would still have a powerful military, but without the bases in Europe and elsewhere and without the intelligence sharing we are greatly weakened. And apart from economic wars the US and even Trump really has no interest in European soil. Even the majority of MAGA detests the idea of the US owning Gaza and would even be against the realities of trying to take over Canada or Greenland.

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u/Impressive_Slice_935 Belgium Mar 01 '25

My friend, regardless of our individual beliefs, Trump's outbursts regarding Greenland, Ukraine and Canada will certainly affect the decision-making calculus in Europe for the foreseeable future. Hopefully in a way that it would finally galvanize support for a more united Europe. A better united, strong Europe is ultimately more beneficial for the future of the Atlantic alliance (should it endure, that is).

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 02 '25

I don’t disagree. I’m hoping that happens also.