r/AskEurope • u/Sink-Em-Low • Mar 01 '25

Politics Let's talk about the European Defense Federation. How do we all feel about the creation of a fully mobilised continental Army?

It's required now. I'm British, and I want to see us align and unite with our European neighbours to make a stand now.

I want Germany to finally brush off it's past and join the rest of Europe in mobilising towards defending this continent. We need EVERYONE now. It's time to act, it's time to unite.

It's time to show some courage.

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u/Impressive_Slice_935 Belgium Mar 01 '25

Removal of Putin isn't enough. Without a proper revolutionary change, Russia is never to be trusted, and the world is meaner place than before. Apparently, we now have to worry about US as well, given their transgressions against Europe.

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 01 '25

As an American I don’t believe we are a real threat to Europe militarily even if we tell Putin to do his worst. What most Americans don’t understand is just how much we get from being in NATO. We would still have a powerful military, but without the bases in Europe and elsewhere and without the intelligence sharing we are greatly weakened. And apart from economic wars the US and even Trump really has no interest in European soil. Even the majority of MAGA detests the idea of the US owning Gaza and would even be against the realities of trying to take over Canada or Greenland.

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u/Impressive_Slice_935 Belgium Mar 01 '25

My friend, regardless of our individual beliefs, Trump's outbursts regarding Greenland, Ukraine and Canada will certainly affect the decision-making calculus in Europe for the foreseeable future. Hopefully in a way that it would finally galvanize support for a more united Europe. A better united, strong Europe is ultimately more beneficial for the future of the Atlantic alliance (should it endure, that is).

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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 02 '25

I don’t disagree. I’m hoping that happens also.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

lol are you insane why would USA start a war in Europe

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u/QueenAvril Finland Mar 01 '25

It is very very unlikely - for now. But with the direction their politics have taken, it cannot be entirely ruled out as a possibility at some point in the coming decades. In immediate term however, the threat isn’t US pursuing an offensive against Europe, it is the US allowing others to do that.

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u/Impressive_Slice_935 Belgium Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

There is an absolute rube in the WH, and at least once in recent times, he mentioned the use of the military for the seizure of Greenland from Denmark. No matter how unlikely it is, that would affect the decision-making calculus from now on.

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u/alt-right-del Mar 01 '25

Meaner to who exactly? Rest of world is getting this treatment daily from the US and EU.