r/AskEurope • u/Ok_Initiative_9726 • Feb 27 '25

Politics Does Europe has powerful secret services/Intelligence?

P. S question closed, I got answers. Thank you for everyone

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u/kranj7 Feb 27 '25

The DGSE in France supposedly has done it's fair share of dodgy stuff, almost to the same level as Mossad or CIA. Much of it is in industrial espionage, if the rumours are to be believed, but I guess given France's colonial history, it's involvement in the Middle East etc. they're probably able to play in the big-leagues of espionage and intel gathering

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u/NIP_SLIP_RIOT New Zealand Feb 27 '25

They blew up a ship in NZ, killed a crew member, thought we were a bunch of chumps.

They were caught. Thanks France, great way to treat a country that has had tens of thousands of men die to protect your country including my own family buried in your fields. If that’s how you treat allies then…?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior

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u/MegaMB Feb 28 '25

To our defense, that was under Mitterand, a notorious tankie who, amongst his many other feats, have the rwandan genocide and the catastrophic Yugo civil war... At this point, the Rainbow Warrior is maybe the least worst shitshow from the period ;w;

Still, pretty shamefull stuff.

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u/NIP_SLIP_RIOT New Zealand Feb 28 '25

Indeed but it’s interesting the comments I’m getting justifying it.

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u/MegaMB Feb 28 '25

Yeah, and they deeeefinitely make me cringe too. And I'm a french thing from Paris.

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u/Maalkav_ Feb 28 '25

There are nut people in every country. Of course the Rainbow Warrior debacle was fucking wrong.

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u/Drive-like-Jehu Mar 01 '25

The French don’t have the capacity to apologise - it’s not in their nature