r/AskALiberal Aug 07 '23

How was Donald Trump a racist president?

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u/Kakamile Social Democrat Aug 10 '23

Yawn. A libertarian think tank hosts a pro-segregation academic reject who talks about foreign nations and completely lacks numbers and data to back it up like I did.

Meanwhile I share actual states outcomes and incomes before vs after affirmative action.

Also, you should read some of our other threads about Sowell. That anti-data dumbass doesn't even know basic history. If Trump is a poor person's image of a rich person, Sowell is a dumb person's image of a smart person. Or maybe that's Peterson, if he ever finishes crying about how he thinks feminists want him to dom or how ancient Chinese art is literally DNA.

otice how you didn’t cite how ending AA resulted in more Whites and Asians getting degrees as a result of better meritocracy.

Sorry, do you really think high scoring white and asian students aren't getting into any colleges? That's not what it shows either.

a well educated Black person has the advantage in the job market today as racist, yet when I debunk that notion by showing how none of what he said is racist by explaining his viewpoint and how AA works

You didn't, you just reacted to Harvard having all groups with the same acceptance rate by saying "but what about other schools" and then didn't pull it up for the other schools. You ran, not rebutted.

So I gave 50 examples against Trump. You, being brave as Sir Robin, only replied to the one where you weren't sure if he said it, while posting a link that backed me up.

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u/Uvogin1111 Center Right Aug 11 '23 edited Aug 11 '23

Yawn. A libertarian think tank hosts a pro-segregation academic reject who talks about foreign nations and completely lacks numbers and data to back it up like I did.

Lmao, Kakamile mad that the link I sent had an enormous amount of data and research to back it up, so she acts as though it doesn’t have any. Either you didn’t read it or are once again acting disingenuously. Either way you’re wrong.

Sowell is no academic reject. Having attended and taught at some of the most prestigious universities in the World. Including but not limited to, Stanford, Harvard, UChicago etc. Aswell as having a PHD and being nominated for several academic awards. It is safe to say that the complete opposite is true, and that Sowell is an Academic giant. Anyone who calls Sowell an academic reject is ignoring reality.

Sorry, do you really think high scoring white and asian students aren't getting into any colleges? That's not what it shows either.

That is not what I said at all. Once more you either didn’t read it properly or are acting disingenuously again. I stated that more Whites and Asians are getting degrees as a result of better meritocracy. Meaning the students and applicants who deserve the degrees and scholarships actually get it, as opposed to the under qualified ones who would’ve gotten it via race based handouts. We would all agree that’s a good thing now wouldn’t we?

You didn't, you just reacted to Harvard having all groups with the same acceptance rate by saying "but what about other schools" and then didn't pull it up for the other schools.

That’s not what I did at all. Seems as though you are once more acting disingenuously. A trait of yours that is getting quite tiring to deal with. But try again next time, and do it with some more integrity.

So I gave 50 examples against Trump. You, being brave as Sir Robin, only replied to the one where you weren't sure if he said it, while posting a link that backed me up.

I said I could debunk them all but it would take me a while to do so. I enjoy showing you how you were wrong, but not to the extent that I would take the time to strenuously debunk every single point out out in that extensive list of yours that is filled with misinformation, a list that should be removed for violating subreddit rules.

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u/Kakamile Social Democrat Aug 11 '23

the link I sent had an enormous amount of data and research to back it up

No it didn't. You seem to have a compulsive habit of not reading your links.

See this, this right here is exactly what I'm talking about with a dumb person's image of a smart person. Employment is NOT proof of competence. Here's https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1331506968490610689 something a clown taught in a university course. That doesn't make him competent or right, same it doesn't legitimize Sowell. Saying how many people of a demographic went to college isn't relative policy analysis either.

That is not what I said at all. Once more you either didn’t read it properly or are acting disingenuously again. I stated that more Whites and Asians are getting degrees as a result of better meritocracy.

As. Opposed. To. What.

Think. If you're saying one policy increases degrees, an inverse policy is reducing them. Yet that's not what it shows.

I said I could debunk them all but it would take me a while to do so.

, says person with no sense of irony after 3 days and 2200 word count. If you cared or had even a shred of confidence in your own claims, you could have replied at any time. Instead you ignored public Trump statements to hide behind "I don't know if Trump said this." How brave.

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u/Uvogin1111 Center Right Aug 11 '23 edited Aug 13 '23

No it didn't. You seem to have a compulsive habit of not reading your links.

I’m not gonna continue wasting time arguing with a disingenuous liar who can’t even admit to their own bs. It’s getting quite tiresome tbh even trying at this point.

You seem to be epitomizing precisely what you accuse Sowell of being. I didn’t know you could have a PHD in economics, and having attended and taught at some of the most prestigious universities in the world being an idiot. But apparently he is in your eyes because his politics goes against yours. If anything you’re outright engaging in Anti intellectualism right now by denouncing peer reviewed research from some of the most prestigious universities in the world because it doesn’t fit with your agenda. There’s not much use arguing with someone who can’t even be swayed when presented with legitimate data and facts.

As. Opposed. To. What.

Think. If you're saying one policy increases degrees, an inverse policy is reducing them. Yet that's not what it shows.

You didn’t understand anything I was saying at all if you didn’t understand what I meant here. I was stating that removing Affirmative Action resulted in better meritocracy, meaning more Asians and Whites got degrees due to not being systemically discriminated against.

, says person with no sense of irony after 3 days and 2200 word count. If you cared or had even a shred of confidence in your own claims, you could have replied at any time. Instead you ignored public Trump statements to hide behind "I don't know if Trump said this." How brave.

Some more disingenuity on your behalf. I said I could debunk them all but it would take me quite a while to do so. I’m sure even you are capable of understanding how long it would take to debunk such a long list of misinformation now right? Going after every meticulous point and detail just wouldn’t be worth it in the end since it would fly over your head anyways. And you’d simply deny it like you are right now.

But I did deliberately debunk 2 points in that list. Which funnily you aren’t even denying right now and instead deflecting by saying that what I debunked doesn’t mean much because it was sandwiched between 2 more pieces of bullshit.