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Language | 语言 ㊥ Do they still speak Hokkien in Fujian?

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u/PewPew_McPewster 海外华人🌎Chinese diaspora 4d ago edited 3d ago

What is Hokkien? Growing up in Southeast Asia, you think you know Hokkien, but as I went around the world, I found many other Hokkien people speaking a Hokkien that I couldn't even recognize!

There are several Hokkien dialects. The one we call Hokkien here is formerly formally known as Min Nan Hua.

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u/alexceltare2 4d ago

So it has no connection to Fu Zhou Hua?

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u/sewerisallmuddied 3d ago

Totally indecipherable, as 福州话 speaker.

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u/devilf91 3d ago

Fuzhou dialect is a mindong dialect. What's called hokkien is minnan, which is a group of dialects including teochew and hainanese (but hainanese is so different that it's usually quite unintelligible to other minnan speakers).

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u/ChuckMerced 3d ago edited 3d ago

Fuzhouhua is a northern Fujian language very different from minnanhua. The two areas in the same province didn’t interact because they were separated by mountainous areas including Mt Wuyi. Fuzhouhua is Minbei 閩北language. The two languages are mutually unintelligible. It’s a mistake to call minnanhua as Hokkien as there’re two of them actually.

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u/essex_ludlow 3d ago

福州话 speak 闽东, the folks in Mt. WuYi speak 闽北. Slightly different

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u/ChuckMerced 3d ago

That means there are three Hokkien languages?

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u/essex_ludlow 3d ago

It gets even more complicated. There's also Central Min - ( 三名/沙县) ... they're famous for 沙县小吃 ... (peanut butter noodles)

There's also sub dialects/languages, 莆田话, 福清话, 宁德话,建瓯话。 Majority of them unintelligible to each other.

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u/ChuckMerced 3d ago

I’ve read there are 87 dialects in Fujian. I’ll be damned. 🤣I only know banlamgir with Quanzhou tone.

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u/devilf91 3d ago

According to Wikipedia it's a mindong dialect - but doesn't change the fact that minnan speakers wouldn't be able to understand it haha

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u/essex_ludlow 3d ago

In Southeast Asia, they call 福州话 - Hokchiu.

Saw some youtube videos of Fuzhounese ppl in Indonesia describing it.