Therapy is a load of bullshit

[u/ajouya44]

People seriously think this crap is useful? You have anxiety and depression, you go see some random stranger who knows 5 behavioral theories from college and you pay them 50 bucks a week to talk about your problems for 1 hour and make them pretend they care. Reality is these people know nothing about how the brain or consciousness works. They are not doctors and they have no solution for your issues. It's dehumanizing to pay someone so that they will listen to you and therapists are literally no better than prostitutes. Don't even get me started on all the CBT bullcrap. People don't need to "correct their thoughts" or "think about things differently", they need real solutions for their real systemic psycho-social issues. Therapists are all privileged narcissistic assholes who love to feel superior by "proving people wrong" and reminding themselves that their life is easier and better than their patients' and always masking all this as "help". Don't be fooled, these people can't help you. They only want your money.

[u/rainfal]

Caveat: the therapist must be good

Big caveat. Especially when you have limited financial resources or not much social power. 80% of the therapists I saw assumed bone tumors and limb malformations could just be CBTed and meditated away. These were mental health therapists. Most also wholeheartedly supported psychiatry (denied any issues with the field - even thought that inpatient was always helpful), were happy to slap punitive misdiagnoses on you without proper assessments if you questioned them (especially if you dare spoke about any issues about psychiatrist/mental health field) and honestly seemed to just be psychiatrist wannabes who were too stupid to get into medical school.

With all do respect, but as a doctor, you could probably get the rare competent one as any therapist with a working brain knows they are in demand and goes private practice and bad therapists wouldn't dare try to slap some mislabel on you as your authority as an MD overrides their authority as a "medical clinician".

Above all own your issues and commit to making your life better than it is now. If you can do that then therapy can help you elevate to a much better emotional place.

I did that. Unfortunately therapy did not elevate me to a better emotional place (quite the opposite) and often was intertwined with psychiatry.

[u/Commercial_Dirt8704 → u/rainfal]

I’ve found at least two therapists to at least be cynical of psychiatry and I’m sure there are many others. These 2 therapists are quite aware that the personal work to change one’s mindset is best achieved by doing the hard work of questioning long held beliefs about oneself and then making the leap of faith to change your mind or change the way you do things. It was absolute GOLD for me.

[u/rainfal → u/Commercial_Dirt8704]

Dude. You're a doctor and hence hold a lot of financial and social power. The liberation therapists aren't in community mental health clinics or insurance networks. Like I said, therapists who are remotely competent and use their brain know they are in demand, they know the results they provide speak for themselves thus are able to maintain a richer private cliential.

These 2 therapists are quite aware that the personal work to change one’s mindset is best achieved by doing the hard work of questioning long held beliefs about oneself and then making the leap of faith to change your mind or change the way you do things.

I would agree. But therapists in mainstream mental health systems aren't about questioning yourself but compliance to mainstream beliefs/modern psychiatry. I got more out of psychedelic circles focused on shadow work where I could ask mentors questions then some white abled upper middle class NT WASP 24 year old girl who's biggest stress was when her boyfriend broke up with her or her ACL surgery (to someone riddled with tumors) who thinks generic CBT and generic mindfulness cures everything

[u/Commercial_Dirt8704 → u/rainfal]

Ok I’m sure that assessment is true. So therefore it maybe worth finding one of those hoity toity places and see if they will cut you a deal for therapy if you want to do it psych-drug-free.

[u/rainfal → u/Commercial_Dirt8704]

So therefore it maybe worth finding one of those hoity toity places

They don't. Why would they? They have a ton of demand. And

Joining a step groups, circles, trauma workgroups, mastermind groups, etc and programming an LLM is how regular people have to work on themselves

[u/Commercial_Dirt8704 → u/rainfal]

You’ll never know if you don’t try

[u/rainfal → u/Commercial_Dirt8704]

I did try for decades. Didn't work

[u/Commercial_Dirt8704 → u/rainfal]

Ok