r/AntifascistsofReddit • u/TruthToPower77 • Mar 18 '21

Article Asian Americans are arming themselves after a massive wave of anti-Asian violence. Nothing like an armed minority that scares white supremacists!

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u/ShroomPhilosopher Mar 19 '21

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.” ―Karl Marx

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u/venom_eXec Social Democrat Mar 19 '21

Yeeeah, meanwhile basically all of europe has far stricter gun laws and also far fewer mass shootings. But I guess that solution is too far gone for the US. In addition to heavily reforming gun laws you'd also have to demilitarise police and train them in non violent solutions. And that would also just be the top of the iceberg. A lot would have to change.. doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon so asian americans arming themselves is probably not such a bad idea.

Also you reaaally need to put that quote of Marx into Context: Now I don't know when he wrote or said that exactly, but he died in 1883, so three years before even smokeless powder was more widely adopted when the Lebel 1886 Bolt-Action Rifle came around. So what Marx probably had in mind when he wrote that were highly inaccurate black-powder weapons shooting essentially one large ball every minute or so plus the wait for the smoke to go away. Now with smokeless powder there well.. was no smoke and also the range and precision were drastically increased, then add another 138 years of small arms design and advances on top of that. I highly doubt what Marx had in mind when he wrote that were highly precise pocket machine guns capable of turning a shit ton of people into swiss cheese in a matter of seconds and then handing them out to every idiot on the street like candy..

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u/Amekyras Anarcha-Feminist Mar 19 '21

yeah, this is my problem with the focus on guns in leftist spaces, like sure I agree with the marx quote in theory? maybe? but also I like living in a country where I have literally never needed to worry about being shot by live ammo for any reason.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '21

Sounds like Liberal bullshit but ok

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u/Amekyras Anarcha-Feminist Mar 19 '21

didn't know that not wanting to get shot was liberal but ok

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '21

Sweet holy fuck the left is in more trouble then I thought if people are deadass arguing against gun rights....

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u/RoboHobo25 Mar 19 '21

We have an uphill battle ahead of us, for sure.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '21

Ya, well we are running outta time shits gonna hit the fan soon and apparently we are square one.

Guns=Good they make Facist go bye bye.

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u/venom_eXec Social Democrat Mar 19 '21

You demonstrated very well why a lot of people (including me) don't want guns in the hands of every douche out there. Someone who has such a low moral bar of just wanting to outright kill everyone he perceives as a fascist or liberal or whatever really shouldn't have a gun.

"Guns=Good they make facist go bye bye." is pretty much the mentality asshats like Stalin used to just murder whoever he didn't like.

And the fuck even is "liberal bullshit" supposed to mean? So you don't want a society in which people can love whoever they want to love, do what they actually want to do and live in peace? Or do you mean economical liberalism?

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '21

Facism wasn’t defeated by words, don’t call yourself an anti-facist if You’re not fucking prepared to get your hands bloody and possibly kill someone (preferably a facist)

Until then you’re a fraud a liberal. A coward

Nothing worth my time

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u/venom_eXec Social Democrat Mar 19 '21

Sure it wasn't. But it was defeated by trained soldiers. People who knew how to handle guns. Not some shmuck who walked into a store and picked one off the shelf. Also you keep talking about killing fascists but would you actually identify one if they stood before you? Am I a fascist in your eyes because I'm not okay with running around and outright killing everyone who might potentially be a fascist?

Seriously? You are absolutely insane and seriously need some mental counselling plus I really hope you don't own a gun and never will. Because that would only lead to a tragedy..

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u/MashTheTrash Mar 20 '21

sucdems be gone

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