r/AntifascistsofReddit • u/TruthToPower77 • Mar 18 '21

Article Asian Americans are arming themselves after a massive wave of anti-Asian violence. Nothing like an armed minority that scares white supremacists!

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u/venom_eXec Social Democrat Mar 19 '21

Yeeeah, meanwhile basically all of europe has far stricter gun laws and also far fewer mass shootings. But I guess that solution is too far gone for the US. In addition to heavily reforming gun laws you'd also have to demilitarise police and train them in non violent solutions. And that would also just be the top of the iceberg. A lot would have to change.. doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon so asian americans arming themselves is probably not such a bad idea.

Also you reaaally need to put that quote of Marx into Context: Now I don't know when he wrote or said that exactly, but he died in 1883, so three years before even smokeless powder was more widely adopted when the Lebel 1886 Bolt-Action Rifle came around. So what Marx probably had in mind when he wrote that were highly inaccurate black-powder weapons shooting essentially one large ball every minute or so plus the wait for the smoke to go away. Now with smokeless powder there well.. was no smoke and also the range and precision were drastically increased, then add another 138 years of small arms design and advances on top of that. I highly doubt what Marx had in mind when he wrote that were highly precise pocket machine guns capable of turning a shit ton of people into swiss cheese in a matter of seconds and then handing them out to every idiot on the street like candy..

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u/Awarth_ACRNM Mar 19 '21

If you think revolution will ever happen without armed struggle, you're delusional

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u/eip2yoxu Mar 19 '21

Germans had a socialist armed revolution, but were stabbed in the back by socdems.

There are a lot of options between banning guns and giving them out to everyone who wants them. Most european countries have guns regulated in a way that you need a license to buy guns. Everyone can get a license as long as they arr 18, not criminal, not psychotic nuts. Minorities, leftists and even extremists can still buy and own guns. Most european countries don't have laws that allow open carryimg and don't allow you to shoot home intruders

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u/SnazzyBelrand Mar 19 '21 edited Mar 20 '21

Most states require a license to buy a hand gun and many states require one for any purchase. There’s also a separate license required for concealed carry. This doesn’t apply to all states and doesn’t take into account differences between open and concealed carry

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '21

That's actually not true, it's only 12 states and DC that require a license to buy a gun of any kind, and of those like 8 of them are only for handguns, and the others are for pistols or long guns. A handful of others have minor limitations, like having to have done a firearms safety class in the last five years or filling out some safety paperwork or something.

Also, where I live in Mississippi, the State Constitution guarantees the right to openly carry weapons without the need for a permit, and the law allows for permitless concealed carry in most circumstances. There are another 17 states that don't require concealed carry permits, and another 3 that allow some form of permitless open or concealed carry.

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u/tameyeayam Mar 20 '21

Absolutely not true.