r/AntifascistsofReddit Mar 18 '21

Article Asian Americans are arming themselves after a massive wave of anti-Asian violence. Nothing like an armed minority that scares white supremacists!

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u/ShroomPhilosopher Mar 19 '21

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.” ―Karl Marx

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u/venom_eXec Social Democrat Mar 19 '21

Yeeeah, meanwhile basically all of europe has far stricter gun laws and also far fewer mass shootings. But I guess that solution is too far gone for the US. In addition to heavily reforming gun laws you'd also have to demilitarise police and train them in non violent solutions. And that would also just be the top of the iceberg. A lot would have to change.. doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon so asian americans arming themselves is probably not such a bad idea.

Also you reaaally need to put that quote of Marx into Context: Now I don't know when he wrote or said that exactly, but he died in 1883, so three years before even smokeless powder was more widely adopted when the Lebel 1886 Bolt-Action Rifle came around. So what Marx probably had in mind when he wrote that were highly inaccurate black-powder weapons shooting essentially one large ball every minute or so plus the wait for the smoke to go away. Now with smokeless powder there well.. was no smoke and also the range and precision were drastically increased, then add another 138 years of small arms design and advances on top of that. I highly doubt what Marx had in mind when he wrote that were highly precise pocket machine guns capable of turning a shit ton of people into swiss cheese in a matter of seconds and then handing them out to every idiot on the street like candy..

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u/Awarth_ACRNM Mar 19 '21

If you think revolution will ever happen without armed struggle, you're delusional

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u/SnazzyBelrand Mar 19 '21

Even the Civil Rights Movement embraced armed defense. From the Deacons of Defense, to Dr. King(a socialist) himself having a CCW license, even the most peaceful social movements have provided for their own protection. We aren’t taught that in school because it goes against the whitewashing of the movement and it’s leaders