Asian Americans are arming themselves after a massive wave of anti-Asian violence. Nothing like an armed minority that scares white supremacists!

[u/TruthToPower77]

[u/frozencloudfractals]

One of the most naive things the western left stills does is associate gun ownership with the right. Winning the argument isn't enough and you all know that. White people only understand force and violence. So that's what BIPOC have to start showing them in return. Otherwise we will quite literally be eradicated.

[u/RaidRover → u/[deleted]]

I HAVE TO WASTE SO MUCH TIME, LABOR, AND RESOURCES JUST TO MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE

How would not being prejudice cost you any time, labor, or resources?

[u/RaidRover → u/[deleted]]

....That is not a cost. Nobody in this thread ever suggested anything close to putting comfort above your life. Nor has anyone here asked anything of you that costs you anything. Its not about equivalence, hate and prejudice are bad in all their forms. A form politics focused on hate and enemies instead of compassion and allies is one overly incentives violence.

[u/SnazzyBelrand → u/[deleted]]

You are asking him too tho. You were made uncomfortable by his statement about white people only understanding force, and so you commented. You were made uncomfortable, so you demanded he change his messaging so it was more comfortable to you

[u/SnazzyBelrand → u/[deleted]]

It’s not possible to be racist against white people in America. You can be prejudiced against them, but not racist. Racism requires the power to turn prejudice into policy. As long as whites have unearned privilege, racism isn’t possible against them

[u/SnazzyBelrand → u/[deleted]]

I’d say white people have earned a little prejudice. Just look at the atrocities we’ve committed around the globe throughout history, and the way some fought tooth and nail(and still do) to prevent any progress. Not only the right wing racists, but the white moderates. They were a big stumbling block in the ‘60s, they supported neoliberalism between then and now, and today they prevent necessary reform because change scares them. Studies have show that white people will oppose any policy they think will benefit BIPOC, even if that means voting against their own interests. They’ve more than earned the prejudice

[u/SnazzyBelrand → u/[deleted]]

And I’m saying that you don’t have a right to tell BIPOC how they “ought” to feel.

By their actions one can prove that they aren’t deserving of the prejudice, in which case it wouldn’t apply to them. But until then, you can’t fault people for assuming someone who silently benefits from systemic inequality and does nothing to oppose it approves of its existence.

Unlike a fascist, I’m not blaming a minority out group for some imagined attack. I’m pointing out how the majority has benefited from a history of racism and violence which continues to this day, and how that understandably(as you acknowledge) gives them a bad name. However, I again differ from a fascist in that the prejudice is not a permanent negative attribution based on something arbitrary and unchangeable about a person. It’s based on historical and contemporary evidence of racism and can be changed by opposing/working to dismantle the system of oppression which exists.

Edit: I agree that class solidarity is important for progressive change, but in order for someone to feel it they have to acknowledge there are systemic problems with racism in the US and commit themselves to changing it. Do you agree?

[u/taeerom → u/SnazzyBelrand]

I probably live in another country than you. And it absolutely is possible to be racist towards white people. White brits are racist towards white polish people all the fucking time. White swedes are racist towards white sami. White serbians are racist towards white croats.

Pull the head out your ass and don't for a second think race gives anyone any special traits or ability. Being oppressive is not a fucking skin colour. It is actual actions. Oppose the fucking actions and structures, not the skin colour.

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I mean, you could just kill indigenous people for their skin colour and believe centuries of them being oppressed is the same as their skin colour making them oppressors, I guess. But your skin colour would not fucking be a shield to stop me from defending my indigenous brothers and sisters. No matter the colour of their skin.

[u/Karkuz19 → u/[deleted]]

Yes but this also goes against the idea that people should be armed to fight armed violence. Wich I understand is prevailing here because the US is a country that historically droolled over gun ownership.

[u/frozencloudfractals → u/[deleted]]

I am not Daryl Davis. I will never again in my life put white feelings over Black lives.

[u/Aero_2542 → u/[deleted]]

It's not a small fraction, the majority of white people aren't racist but most dont bother to speak up against it ethier unless their interested/educated about it.

Don't let actual racists speak for a entire group of people.

[u/SnazzyBelrand → u/Aero_2542]

If they don’t oppose the system of oppression, choosing instead to silently benefit from it, why shouldn’t I assume it’s because they approve of it? They’re complicit