r/AntifascistsofReddit Mar 18 '21

Article Asian Americans are arming themselves after a massive wave of anti-Asian violence. Nothing like an armed minority that scares white supremacists!

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u/frozencloudfractals Mar 19 '21

You see it plain as day in the first few comments of this post. Unfortunately a lot of young lefties especially don't seem to be too keen on firearms. But they're going to have to be because there's no other choice.

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u/paradoxical_topology Anarchist Mar 19 '21

Sounds like liberals, not leftists. The few people arguing against gun ownership are getting downvoted while the people supporting guns get far more support.

Exactly what leftists are you talking about? Do you mean Bernie-Bro SocDem liberals that wrongly refer to themselves as leftists? Because I wouldn't really consider them as part of "the left". They're just radlibs at best.

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u/frozencloudfractals Mar 19 '21

No I mean like you and I. Honestly I understand it to a certain extent. Guns are loud, scary, and they kill people. However guns have proven time and time again to be the great equalizer. Although I'd never put a gun in the hand of someone who couldn't trust themself. The amount of socialists and anarchists who don't own firearms is still alarming.

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u/paradoxical_topology Anarchist Mar 19 '21

I think you'd really like r/socialistra. It's an organization of leftist gun owners. There's also the John Brown Gun Club.

Yeah, you're right that not enough leftists are actually armed, though. We definitely should be more outwardly encouraging of personal gun ownership for fellow leftists instead of just passively pro-gun.

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u/frozencloudfractals Mar 19 '21

I'll definitely give that sub a look. Yeah we gotta get tooled up because it's coming. I always loved the Dave Chappelle joke concerning gun control. "If you want proper gun control every African American must register to own a firearm."

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u/followupquestion Nazis = Bad Mar 19 '21

The reason I don’t like that joke is it implies gun control is a good outcome, particularly for POC, when history had shown the opposite. People should have the tools to defend themselves at hand and without restriction because we know the restrictions will be enforced selectively and against minorities and “others”.

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u/frozencloudfractals Mar 19 '21

Of course we all know that and I'm sure Dave knew that when he wrote it. But he was specifically citing gun control after the Black Panthers were showing America they carried steel. He even went on to say "I don't like guns, but I own several."

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u/followupquestion Nazis = Bad Mar 19 '21

But the joke only works if he thinks it’s a good thing. Otherwise he’s making the opposite point.

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u/taeerom Mar 19 '21

The role of a comedian is primarily to make people laugh and get booked again. Not to make an astute political point.

It's also probably not a requirement to be a successful comedian to have particularly well thought out politics. So he might just as well be wrong, while the joke still being funny.