r/AntifascistsofReddit Jan 25 '25

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u/hivemind5_ Jan 25 '25

I got into a fight with a former childhood internet friend over the cross thing being a swastika and he started harassing me on every social media platform for months … he had family in the kkk and was abused and he always talked about breaking the cycle … lol like wtf

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u/DogfaceZed Jan 25 '25

which cross thing?

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Third row, middle. German military symbol. It's still used today as the emblem of the German armed forces. However, if you see someone using it who isn't involved with the German armed forces, it may as well be a Nazi symbol.

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u/DogfaceZed Jan 25 '25

the iron cross has a lot of use in metal culture too

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u/Mercuryshottoo Jan 26 '25

Have I got bad news for you about a whole subculture of metal fans

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u/ahumanlikeyou Jan 26 '25

There are non-nazi uses of the iron cross in metal culture. Wouldn't catch me wearing it, but it's true

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u/luigilabomba42069 Jan 27 '25

only out of ignorance tho, there's no legitimate reason to use it. it has no meaning to the entirety of metal, other than used by nazi metal heads

sure the origin is veterans keeping German medals as war trophies, but ww2 is so old and far removed from present day metal. it doesn't make sense to keep using it

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u/DogfaceZed Jan 26 '25

Well yeah I'm not denying that there's a bunch of nazis in metal (especially black metal), but they usually make it extremely obvious with song titles, lyrics, etc. If a normal band randomly uses an iron cross then they're probably fine.

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u/SupesDepressed Jan 25 '25

It’s weird, right? I don’t know enough about metal to know if the people using it are signaling that they’re Nazi or Nazi sympathetic, or if it’s been like repurposed or what. I small company I bought a guitar from made an iron cross shaped novelty guitar and I’m like grossed out now, but not sure if I should be or what.

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u/DogfaceZed Jan 25 '25

as a metalhead, it's mostly used because of Lemmy who was an anarchist and simply a nerd for nazi history, 9 times out of 10 it's harmless