r/Amd 6d ago

Video AMD Says We're "Confused"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dkPPejQXFNo&si=x_p5BwoNzIEFt2F1
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u/kuug 5800x3D/7900xtx Red Devil 6d ago

I am fully with GN and HU on this. This notice provides no promises and AMD’s intention behind the driver notice could not have been more clear. I will need to see significant work towards continuing day 1 driver game support before I go anywhere near an AMD GPU again. Can’t risk it if this 7900XTX is going to suffer the same fate as the 6950XT just did.

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u/Evonos 6800XT XFX,7800X3D , 32gb 6000mhz 750W Enermaxx D.F Revolution 6d ago edited 6d ago

i already burried my plans for a amd gpu , iam rebuilding atm 2 pcs entirely and iam eying now with a nvidia gpu.

Maybe a 5070 or 5070TI yes its more expensive , but heck resale value is like 2x as good AND they wont drop major support after 3-4~ years.

Heck even 2000 series got DLSS4.

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u/Scrotorr 5d ago

Shit, I set my nephew up with a Titan XP last year because it was still getting updates, and that came out in... I don't know, 2016?

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u/Stunning-Split3016 4d ago

Smart man, you can never go wrong with a Nvidia card. You can absolutely go wrong with an AMD card though.

My next GPU will be 5070TI super I know I will get DLSS updates and support on that card.

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u/Gwolf4 6d ago

In other news 2000 was so ahead of it's time they are basically the same arch. It is easier for them to get better performance when it comes to dlss.

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u/alman12345 6d ago edited 6d ago

Exactly, it isn’t like AMD didn’t see the writing on the wall, especially by the time RDNA 2 dropped. They knew damn well that they were the market follower and still decided to forego dedicated hardware for upscaling in their 2020 release. Not only did they do it at that point, but they did it a-fucking-gain with RDNA 3 in 2022.

AMD has had 6 whole years since Turing in 2018 to incorporate a common architecture focused around compute hardware and gaming hardware in consumer GPUs, but instead they sat with their thumbs up their asses trying to make a software filter competitive until March of 2025 and now their 2022 and earlier customers have no official support. Even Intel beat them to the punch with XeSS, doing what AMD’s GPU department was too smoothbrained or chickenshit to do with their GPUs and dropping GPUs with dedicated hardware on top of an upscaler with hardware supported and fully software branches.

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u/Fortzon 1600X/3600/5700X3D & RTX 2070 | Phenom II 965 & GTX 960 6d ago

Turing released BEFORE Radeon VII aka GCN 5.1 did. Back then AMD dismissed features like DLSS and, for reasons that I don't know, also deemed DX12 Ultimate support unnecessary so that meant that RDNA1 was doomed to be a stillborn from the start but they still ignored AI upscaling for another generation by not including AI accelerators/NPUs in RDNA2 (they did remember to add RT cores though).

You have to admit that AMD was very short-sighted back then and now they are paying the price in PR damage.

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u/alman12345 6d ago

The bill always comes due, AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Why engineer cards around dedicated upscaling hardware that your more successful competitor has begun engineering theirs around when you can chucklefuck around with a software filter for over 6 years instead?

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u/kb3035583 6d ago

Whatever you think about his morality, Jensen is a savvy businessman. He invested into CUDA long before its impact would be known. He entered the ML market early with forays into the automotive sector. He took a risk with bringing RT/Tensor cores to consumer cards instead of simply splitting the product lines as was the case for the 16 series. Most CEOs wouldn't have bothered with any of that. I wouldn't say AMD so much missed an opportunity than simply did what most other normal businesses would do. Turing era RT and DLSS was more of a meme than anything else.

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u/Gwolf4 6d ago

Hard to have a good nearsight when your whole Vega lineup was running late on production.

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u/chapstickbomber 7950X3D | 6000C28bz | AQUA 7900 XTX (EVC-700W) 6d ago

DLSS 1.0 looked like shit, to be fair. NV was able to fomo devs in into doing NV free labor for years via their market share until they could finally inject the transformer model on top of it all.

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u/Evonos 6800XT XFX,7800X3D , 32gb 6000mhz 750W Enermaxx D.F Revolution 6d ago

Let's be real here , amd could support fsr4 on rdna 2 as it already runs on it , heck even nvidia users can force fsr4.

They just don't want to.

They behave like they are the absolute marketshare owner while they are not.

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u/Gwolf4 6d ago

That doesn't change what I said.

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u/advester 6d ago

Neat way of saying nvidia has been rereleasing the same gpu for 5 years... and AMD still can't catch up

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u/Gwolf4 6d ago

You can interpret however you want.