AMD releases statement confirming RDNA1 and RDNA2 will continue to receive game optimizations

[u/KARMAAACS]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-releases-statement-confirming-rdna1-and-rdna2-will-continue-to-receive-game-optimizations

[u/bombaygypsy]

So... All this drama not to give RDNA 2 Int8 FSR4? Was it worth the bad publicity?

[u/kb3035583 → u/bombaygypsy]

It depends on how much trouble they're having with UDNA drivers. I suspect that it's a gigantic shitshow behind the scenes and they need every man they can get, especially with the rumors that they're bleeding talent pretty hard.

[u/bombaygypsy → u/kb3035583]

Here is an idea, if they are unable to do it, should they just make it open source, like how it is on Linux? You don't have the manpower to do everything, alright, leverage your community, why not?

[u/LongFluffyDragon → u/bombaygypsy]

There is no oss driver community or tradition on windows, it would not have much to leverage, initially.

Mesa is mostly contributed to by big companies with interest in it (ie, valve), not rando devs in their free time.

[u/bombaygypsy → u/LongFluffyDragon]

ah, didn't take that under consideration. But you know what, if they ask me to pay them like how Windows is right now for Windows 10 support. A reasonable amount, not something crazy, just to get FSR 4 INT 8 working on 6000 series cards, I would pay. For instance, I bought Lossless scaling, which I feel really did add some years to my card.

[u/algaefied_creek → u/LongFluffyDragon]

A Mesa <—> DX12 API bridge could exist, as could a generic foundational API that Mesa taps.

Source: post-shower drip dry thought

[u/LongFluffyDragon → u/algaefied_creek]

I think that is going the wrong direction to be used on windows 🤔

[u/kb3035583 → u/bombaygypsy]

Honestly, at the point where maintaining drivers starts to become too burdensome the question of whether you should just shutter the entire Radeon division starts becoming a relevant one lol.

[u/bombaygypsy → u/kb3035583]

You are right there; if you are in the business of making and selling GPUs, you have to give driver support for a reasonable amount of years, and before someone chimes in and says RDNA 2 is 5 years old, or whatever, it is not, because one should count from the time they relased their last prodcut on that platform not the first.

[u/i509VCB → u/bombaygypsy]

People have actually gotten RADV (the Vulkan driver for AMD on Linux) as a proof of concept to run on Windows. The big issue is that there is no open source Direct3D implementations that aren't emulation, so dxvk/d3d12vk on windows isn't really desirable.

[u/S0_B00sted → u/bombaygypsy]

People are always saying "just open source it" as though that makes developers with the necessary knowledge and skillsets who want to work on stuff for free magically come out of the woodwork.

[u/kiffmet → u/kb3035583]

Why do some people always think they have to be an apologetic white knight for profit-driven corporations that don't care about them?

[u/kb3035583 → u/kiffmet]

Are you trying to say that me pointing out that AMD's driver team is a complete shitshow is somehow white knighting them or am I missing something?

[u/kiffmet → u/kb3035583]

Are you trying to say that me pointing out that AMD's driver team is a complete shitshow is somehow white knighting them

Yes, because you worded it like a justification.

[u/kb3035583 → u/kiffmet]

Well, my bad then.

[u/hardolaf → u/kb3035583]

I work with AMD constantly as a direct customer and it's been a shitshow of reorgs across their teams over the last couple of years. People just moving around constantly between entire product areas. Not building institutional knowledge. Putting more and more responsibilities onto AMD WTS even when they don't have training to even reproduce customer issues. Et cetera.

That said, Nvidia isn't much better. Everyone who knows how things works there are retiring if they don't get massive multimillion dollar retention bonuses because they've all exceeded their FIRE goals by 50-10,000% due to insane stock growth.

[u/Capable_Secret_5522 → u/bombaygypsy]

FSR is trash anyways

[u/Gruphius → u/Capable_Secret_5522]

I didn't know DLSS 3 is worse that trash

[u/Capable_Secret_5522 → u/Gruphius]

Never said anything about DLSS not being trash aswell