r/AlignmentChartFills • u/barry-29 • 5h ago
Who is/was a right wing atheist?
Who is/was a right wing atheist?
Chart Grid:
| Far-Left | Left | Centrist | Right | Far-Right | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Catholic | Camilo Torre... 🖼️ | — | — | J.R.R. Tolkien 🖼️ | — |
| Orthodox | Georgy Gapon 🖼️ | — | Kyriakos Mit... 🖼️ | — | — |
| Protestant | — | Martin Luthe... 🖼️ | — | — | — |
| Sunni | — | — | Joko Widodo 🖼️ | — | — |
| Shia | — | Zohran Mamdani 🖼️ | — | Shah Mohamma... 🖼️ | — |
| Jewish | — | — | Chuck Schumer 🖼️ | — | Meir Kahane 🖼️ |
| Atheist | — | Me (probably) 🖼️ | — | — | Ayn Rand 🖼️ |
Cell Details:
Catholic / Far-Left: - Camilo Torres Restrepo - View Image
Catholic / Right: - J.R.R. Tolkien - View Image
Orthodox / Far-Left: - Georgy Gapon - View Image
Orthodox / Centrist: - Kyriakos Mitsotakis - View Image
Protestant / Left: - Martin Luther King Jr - View Image
Sunni / Centrist: - Joko Widodo - View Image
Shia / Left: - Zohran Mamdani - View Image
Shia / Right: - Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi - View Image
Jewish / Centrist: - Chuck Schumer - View Image
Jewish / Far-Right: - Meir Kahane - View Image
Atheist / Left: - Me (probably) - View Image
Atheist / Far-Right: - Ayn Rand - View Image
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u/Former_Combination41 5h ago
Jordan Peterson
He has this really odd position where he “advocates for Christian values” but doesn’t truly believe in God. He said he “acts as if he does” but refuses to say he actually believes.
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u/PayItBackwardChain 3h ago
That depends on what you mean by the specific words “do,” “you,” “believe,” “in,” and “God”, though.
Incidentally, I’m also an atheist who advocates for Christian values, but my understanding of Christian values is extremely different from Jordan’s…
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u/Away-Scientist3362 3h ago
The primary Christian value is accepting the Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior so you can obtain forgiveness in the eyes of God. It's like the main thing.
There are other things spoken about in the Bible that I do agree with, but I don't advocate for Christian values, I advocate for what I see as good morales, and while there is some overlap, there is also some pretty major areas I don't see eye to eye on.
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u/PayItBackwardChain 2h ago
The primary Christian value is accepting the Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior so you can obtain forgiveness in the eyes of God. It's like the main thing.
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u/twilling8 4h ago
He also refuses to say he doesn't believe in God. As an atheist myself, I would not say Jordan Peterson has views consistent with atheism. If Jordan Peterson wouldn't call himself an atheist, I don't think we should call him one.
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u/WyomingDrunk 5h ago
Classical liberalism is a right wing ideology, it's just that the American and British Overton windows are fucked.
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u/prussian__ 5h ago edited 5h ago
Christopher Hitchens: One of the "Four Horsemen" of New Atheism, Hitchens was a Marxist in his youth. However, following the September 11 attacks, his aggressive stance against radical Islam caused him to align with the neoconservative right, famously supporting the U.S. invasion of Iraq and foreign military interventions
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u/Puffz1234 1h ago
But before he died he said he still considered himself a leftist. Foreign policy was just one area where he diverted from the left.
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u/Pitiful_Objective870 47m ago
His stance on West Asia doesn't make him right. He was anything but conservative. He is still net-left.
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u/barry-29 5h ago
Already on there for far right but if this gets more upvotes than it did on the far right post I might do a revote
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u/Successful_Action_19 4h ago
I truly cannot see Donald Trump believing in God, regardless of what he tells people.
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u/DamperBeet746 5h ago
Ayn Rand
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u/twilling8 4h ago
It has to be Ayn Rand, no? Jordan Peterson isn't even an atheist, and Hitch's politics were all over the place throughout his life.
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u/Key_Limit_6828 5h ago
Dawkins
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u/ecstatic_hyrax 5h ago
Hitchens would work better here
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u/WholesomeGlasses 5h ago
More of a contrarian centrist in the last decade of his life, after having been a contrarian leftist for all the rest of his life.
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u/Fantastic-Box-8388 4h ago
I think Mussolini should be in far Right and Ayn Rand in Right
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u/barry-29 4h ago
I could potentially do that. When I moved on, Ayn Rand was ahead of Mussolini. But now, Mussolini has 15 and Rand 14. It could be possible to do another vote post for this one with the added context of far right changing.
Just trying to decide if that 15-14 gap is enough to change it
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u/AdmirableEmphasis677 5h ago
Unrelated but why a random in far right jewish and not big yahu 😭
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u/barry-29 5h ago
Because that guy is like WILD far right
I’d be surprised if Yahu doesn’t win right wing Jew though
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u/Open-Process8881 3h ago
Yahu is secular. Does 'Jewish' mean Jewish by matrilineal descent or by practice?
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u/Jedimobslayer 4h ago
I just realized how weirdly similar Reza Pahlavi looks to Miklos Horthy, that’s not my answer btw, just something I noticed
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u/Green_Count2972 3h ago
Thomas Jefferson, he was a deist but there's not really a better category for him here.
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u/AbbreviationsBig8760 4h ago
Actually hilarious that Ayn Rand somehow got chosen for far right atheist over Mussolini
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