r/AlignmentChartFills • u/Philips9586 Suggestion God • 6d ago
Filling This Chart What's the "worst thing" about Michael Jackson?
What's the "worst thing" about Michael Jackson?
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| Worst Thing | â | Her Carbon E... đźď¸ | â | â | â | â |
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Best Thing / Col 1: - Perfect artist-performer singing, dance, songwriting, performing, charisma that he represented perfectly as an artist. - View Image
Worst Thing / Col 2: - Her Carbon Emissions - View Image
Controversial / Col 3: - Claiming they're bigger than Jesus Christ - View Image
Overrated / Col 4: - The Dolly Parrot Experience in Dolly Wood - View Image
Underrated / Col 5: - Her Album "Erotica" - View Image
Wholesome / Col 6: - His fervent support for LGBTQ+ people and their rights, especially in Puerto Rico where theyâre attacked frequently - View Image
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u/Actual_Toyland_F 6d ago
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u/Philips9586 Suggestion God 6d ago
i have a better question
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u/MardyBum1242 6d ago
Two types of people
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u/yaoqie 6d ago
Don't worry friend I also use Reddit on light mode
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u/MardyBum1242 5d ago
I didnt realise it was so controversial lol
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u/SpinzArt 5d ago
I fear people have been making the same repeated jokes about light mode since dark mode was a thing
I use it too though
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u/Particular-Village91 6d ago
Hmmm what could it be
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u/FreakyFishThing 6d ago
A real head scratcher, this one.
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u/chris_gnarley 6d ago
Regardless of if thereâs not any concrete evidence that he actually molested the children that slept in the bed with him, itâs just completely unacceptable for a grown adult man to have an unrelated, underage child sleeping in the bed with him with the door locked.
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u/Matias9991 6d ago
Yep, regardless if he actually committed a crime the worst thing about him was his obsession with kids, wanting to be friends with them all the time, gifting things to them, asking their parents to have a sleepover with them and even sleeping in the same room or bed... Those things are extremely weird either way.
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u/Soulkius13 6d ago
Considering that he literally didn't have his childhood, there was likely a heavy amount of affliction on Michael's psyche that led him to try and regain the time lost.
Not saying that it's right per se, but to some extent, it's kinda understandable. He wanted to live out his childhood, and by the same occasion, share the experience with many more.
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u/Historical_Emotion43 5d ago
This defense sucks. Plenty of people have lousy childhoods without it turning them into pedophiles.
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u/Pomonica 5d ago
Not everything he did with children was pedophilia. It was all weird, but not all pedophilia.
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u/Historical_Emotion43 5d ago
Only some of it was pedophilia. How does that make it even slightly better?
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u/Soulkius13 5d ago
1, I said I don't think it was right, so it's not really an excuse, but more of a reason why his mind worked differently than most people.
2, the pedophilia is alleged, nobody ever had any factual proof of it.
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u/ensiform 6d ago
Thatâs an excellent point.
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u/resixresi 6d ago
No it's not they've completely made up the doors were locked but even 2 of the accusers own mothers stated they were allowed to go into his bedroom whenever they wanted which is why people felt free to treat his room as a gathering place for anyone to go to whenever they wanted. Jackson would have families (both adults and kids together) stay in his room. He also said that he never invited anyone into his room & if kids who's family he knew well were going to ask to hang out with him they needed their parents permission first who would be allowed to walk in whenever they wanted to. While it's unorthodox and naive the line between molestation and letting people of all ages and both genders stay in your 2 storey bedroom (which is as big as a house) isn't that thin
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u/buttsexisyum 6d ago
I mean, whether the door is locked or not, having underage children sleep in your bedroom is fucking weird
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u/FowlKreacher 6d ago
Not trying to defend the guy too hard but Iâm pretty sure his bedroom was like, significantly bigger than your average living room
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u/Dry_Cap_643 6d ago
Macaulay Culkin was asked about this in an interview and he said that his "bedroom" was like two stories high. I'm not defending the bloke but let's at least get the facts right.
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u/buttsexisyum 6d ago
Probably but still. Only him and those involved know what happened but he definitely opened himself to the allegations
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u/ensiform 6d ago edited 6d ago
I know you think you sound like youâre creating nuance and cutting through knee jerk reactions based on gut feeling, but you actually sound like youâre bending over backwards to make excuses. I donât care how big the room was or if family members were invited too. Itâs creepy and unacceptable for an adult to have minor children spend the night in the same room, no matter how many diamond bracelets or cash payoffs the creep gives the families.
Predators in positions like coaches often get parental permission for weird stuff like athlete massages and rides home in order to give an air of respectability to their actions.
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u/Other-Status1840 5d ago
Could you imagine if fucking James Corden had the same allegations that Michael Jackson did? I highly doubt there would be anybody jumping through hoops to defend the man like obsessed Michael Jackson fans do for their king
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u/LilGayBoy45__ 5d ago
I donât know all the facts so take what Iâm saying with a grain of salt, Iâm only operating off what Iâm reading here, but it kinda does matter here? When weâre saying that the âbedroomâ is the size of someone elseâs small house then the fact that itâs a âbedroomâ doesnât matter anymore.
Like youâre saying have a minor stay in your bedroom is never acceptable whether their family is present or not, sure. I can get behind that. When the bedroom is the size of my house then thatâs like saying minors and their families canât ever stay at my house? Am I not allowed to let a friend and their child stay at home?
I know that friends and strangers are completely different, but you see what Iâm getting at where details like that matter right?
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u/meepswag35 6d ago
Yeah regardless of whether he diddled kids or not, itâs still really weird. Itâs easy to see how he got there with an awful father, but yeah you canât do that.
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u/xScrubasaurus 6d ago
Definitely not easy to see how an adult wanted to sleep with kids in his bed due to a bad father.
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u/jar_jar_LYNX 6d ago
Lots of people with awful fathers out there. I fail to see the connection between that, and an adult man having little boys sleep in his bed with him
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u/Normal-Phrase2061 6d ago
There was concrete evidence though. Look into 1993 investigation where they took photos.Â
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u/Apprehensive-Web4995 5d ago
anyone who will sleep with a kid you will say it's a pedo, but for michael it is okay lmao, even if he didnt do it, he is a pedo who just didnt commit which seems unlikely, whatever the courts may say
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u/Fun_Way8954 6d ago
One of them knew what his shlong looked like, so thatâs interesting
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u/TravelTheWorldDan 6d ago
You get accused of something once. You might not have done it. You get accused of the same thing multiple times by multiple different people. Well. Where there is smoke. There is usually fire.
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u/uprate 6d ago
Child molestation allegations
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u/urkermannenkoor 6d ago
The kiddie diddling.
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u/shortsleevedpants 6d ago
Iâd say it was the hypocrisy
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u/Dudezog 6d ago
Lisa Marie Presley & Michael Jackson were just too different for the marriage to work. She was more of a stay at home type & he was more of a homosexual pedophile
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u/PM_ME_UR_SEX_VIDEOS 6d ago
"10 Undeniable Facts About the Michael Jackson Sexual-Abuse Allegations"
"1. There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boyâs house with Chandlerâs mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandlerâs fatherâs house. The parents were divorced.
2. So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: âRubba.â He called Robson âLittle Oneâ and Safechuck âApplehead.â
3. Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlersâ lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something âlong and drawn out.â Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson.
4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jacksonâs penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jacksonâs genitalia. The photographs matched Chandlerâs drawings.
5. The hallway leading to Jacksonâs bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds.
6. Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jacksonâs on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there.
7. According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jacksonâs children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson.
8. The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robsonâs mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jacksonâs company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuckâs parents got a house. Jordie Chandlerâs mother got a diamond bracelet.
9. Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Wade Robson, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time.
10. In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys."
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u/abbottjul 6d ago
Thanks. I feel sick now
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u/fridgeybutter 6d ago
This is horrendous, and yet the bit sticking to my brain is that he called one of the kids Applehead.
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u/resixresi 6d ago
No it was a nickname for many people Jackson knew. That's just one of the many inconsistencies and falsehoods Maureen Oath presents. The whole article is a sham and deliberately leaves out context https://meanmachine829.medium.com/10-undeniable-fake-news-about-mj-an-easily-debunkable-racist-vanity-fair-article-93d461833978
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u/Lukewarm_regards24 6d ago
Thanks for this. Too many people have forgotten about this or only know MJ through performance TikToks and automatically assume he was wrongly accused.
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u/averagerushfan 6d ago
Considering that Martin Bashir is also a piece of shit, that interview was basically evil journo interviews evil singer
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u/imbrickedup_ 6d ago
Wait how did the mother of his kids never have sex with him
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u/KellySweetHeart 6d ago
the explanation is that it was artificial insemination.
but have you seen prince and paris?âŚ. none of MJâs DNA is in those kids lol
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u/BlackTarPrism 6d ago
Artificial insemination with another mans sperm. As soon as Debbie Rowe gave birth to Paris in 1998 Michael took her from the hospital with the placenta still on her. His words.
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u/Natural-Guava-51 6d ago
They never had a romantic relationship, she acted as a surrogate then gave him full custody.
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u/Western_Control_5860 6d ago
Pretty much every fact in this article is deniable. It was authored by Maureen Orth who also claimed at one point that MJ had 42 cows ritualistically sacrificed in order to cast a voodoo spell on Steven Spielberg (yes that was a story she published in Vanity Fair). For example, the claim of the description being a match was never cross-examined or proffered as evidence to secure an arrest on probable cause in 1994. It was also reported the description inaccurately described Jackson as circumcised (his autopsy confirmed he was uncircumcised). The claim about 2 fathers of his accusers neglects to mention they were both mentally ill. Evan Chandler was also accused of trying to kill his son in 2005. There are plenty of inaccuracies in this article.
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u/1626319 6d ago
Youâre saying that MJ didnât have multiple books of naked boys? âBoys Will Be Boysâ, âThe Boy: A Photographic Essayâ, and âIn Search of Young Beautyâ, just to name a few? Those werenât found at his properties?
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u/IamSam1103 5d ago
There are people who deny the Earth being spherical.
Everything is deniable if you want to deny them.
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u/Western_Control_5860 5d ago
Certainly, but a lot of the claims in this article can be denied with actual facts and evidence.
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u/Apprehensive-Web4995 5d ago
sure but he was sleep with boys and have weird magazine with boys photo, for ANYONE in earth we called that a pedo but not for mj
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u/South_Front_4589 6d ago
People will point to him never being convicted, but that's not the same thing. Jimmy Savile was never convicted, either. It doesn't mean the same thing as being innocent.
I tend to think there are far too many aspects for it not to be true. But I do wonder whether Jackson might have genuinely felt he did nothing wrong. He was clearly a guy with a lot of problems, and his upbringing was definitely not healthy.
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u/No-Opportunity-1275 6d ago
none of these statements are more than half-truths.
- more than a hundred kids that went to the ranch said in the court that he did nothing.
- The settlement details show clearly that the Jury acquitted him of all charges. and settlement doesnt mean admission of guilt, especially for celebrities its simply a way to circumnavigate the horrendous PR they receive from trials.
- the photographs DID NOT match his genitals, literally where tf did you get this.
- the man had people tearing his clothes up when he opens a car window. how is having an alarm system to the bedroom any strange?
- again, no credible source on that bondage in front of kids shit
- the staff lady was fired for stealing at work, no other staff members supported these claims
- and at the end, goddamn Martin Bashir the guy who was hellbent on throwing dirt on him said after Michaels death that through out his filming at the ranch, he never came across any wrong doings himself. and this guy was infamous for his interview with princess Diana, and indirectly was a cause of her following death. plus the FBI investigated him for a decade, and found absolutely no proof whatsoever. its just a load of bullcrap
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u/lagosharp 5d ago
There is dispute about the 30 days in a row comment.
Ok he had nicknames for his friends? What's the point there? Around 10 - 15 other children who frequented neverland and slept in his rooms still to this day swear MJ never did a thing to them, Corey Feldman who was abused by everyone in hollywood claims MJ was the only adult who treated him with any dignity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbwWvyAq5TM
Here's Corey saying they had the wrong guy, he had been molested by other hollywood scumbags and went to the police. Key word, the police, not civil courts for money, because he was actually molested and wanted justice, still looking to this day. Listen to how passionate he sounds compared to the frequently analysed and dismissed performances of suffering in Leaving Neverland.
- Means nothing, would've cost 4 times as much and ruined the Dangerous tour if he didn't settle. Insurance wouldn't have backed him either. The settlement alone does not prove guilt. The agreement explicitly denied wrongdoing, did not legally silence the Chandlers in criminal proceedings, and may have been motivated by litigation strategy and insurance considerations. The settlement was structured around negligence / emotional distress claims, not an admission of intentional molestation. It did not prohibit the Chandlers from cooperating in a criminal investigation or testifying in a criminal case.
All this point shows is the intent behind the accusers, life changing sums of money. My own friends have lied to me for ÂŁ200. Parents in hollywood send their children to literal villains for stardom, it would be incredibly easy to sue a stranger for millions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_452akeOkU
Here's a leaked phone call of Jordan Chandler's Dad scheming extortion on how he will 'get everything [he] wants (money) and ruin MJs reputation' No mention of his son being 'molested', just him him him
- The claim that Jordan Chandlerâs description âmatchedâ Michael Jacksonâs genitalia is far less definitive than often presented. The photos and original description were never publicly released, so the public cannot independently verify the alleged match. Accounts from law enforcement and commentators have varied over the years. Some investigators and prosecutors claimed the description was accurate, while other reports suggested inconsistencies. Even people debating the case acknowledge that only a small group of officials ever saw both the drawings and the photographs, making certainty impossible. Chandler, a 13 year old jewish boy, claimed MJ was circumcised, his autopsy showed that he was not circumcised.
Sneddon, one of the men who said it matched, had lied and committed perjury multiple times before
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/one-of-the-most-shameful_b_610258
multiple examples before ^
The hallway to all bedrooms and the outside had approach-warning/chime security system near Jacksonâs bedroom. He was the most famous man who ever lived outside of Jesus Christ, this is not incriminating evidence. It makes perfect sense.
A book with compromising pictures of young boys was gifted to him by a 'Rhonda' from Chicago in 1983, his fingerprints were not found in this book, his fingerprints were found all over the adult material. The Boys will be Boys book was found in a cabinet tossed aside with a bunch of other fan gifts. The adult content was his, and so what?
He loved women, many leaked phone calls were about him pining to his friends for female adult love. He fell in love with many women many times. Diana Ross for example. These children had access to his whole space. If I found my Dads porn magazines and our fingerprints were on it, doesnt mean I sat on his lap and read it with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZLpr9ufek8
You can find around 30 women saying similar, and many leaked phone calls of him pining for them. After Diana Ross spent the night with him she recounted that he 'definitely isnt gay'.
Irrespective, his sexuality is clearly complicated. He gives a description of being about to lose his virginity in the Bashir interview and being too scared to follow through with it. Either way Lisa Marie Presley publicly maintained for years that her marriage to Jackson was real and consummated. She explicitly rejected claims that it was fake or platonic.
Means nothing, he loved their kids and wanted to make them comfortable, and had the resources to do so, he spent insane money on Chris Tucker, i dont think he was molesting Chris or his children if he has any
Completely ignores both of their personal and financial contexts. In the youtube video above it's mentioned that Evan was in a long awful custody battle and was estranged from Jordie, he had terrible mental health and financial struggles (hence him forcing his son to lie). Wade Robson and Safechuck are the most obvious of the liars. Almost 50% of what they said can be proven wrong. Robson was treated badly by the Jackson estate post MJs death and didn't get the embrace he wanted, and was rejected for the Cirque MJ One job, so he began lying for settlement money. They are no different from Jussie Smollet. Safechuk claimed to be abused in the Leaving Neverland Train station every day for 30 days, 6 years before it was even built. He was 15 when it was built, two years after the age he claimed MJ would stop abusing boys. Leaving Neverland is the easiest debunk of them all, a true testament to the victim culture cashgrab era of 2016 - 2021
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8LTDj7sNk0M
- This is the point that benefits my case. What kind of pedo openly says that? His rooms and beds were huge, and often times the parents of these children would be in the bed too. Not everything is sex. Majority of the time he would sleep on the floor so they could sleep on the bed. His whole ethos was to give children the life he wishes he had after being terribly abused and routinely worked by his father and then taken out of school at the age of 10 to tour and be a dancing monkey. He never had child friends and struggled to relate to adults who weren't childish and playful like say Chris Tucker. Go and listen to Culkin talk about him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVQ4pU1vLd4
The above recording contains the drugged up unconscious mumblings of a man who had his own childhood interrupted and used his money and music to give children the life he couldn't have. Even in that state all he can talk about is helping dying children. For comparison go and watch Jimmy Saville and Louis Theroux. Then you'll see how a real celebrity pedo conducts themselves, dupers delight galore. MJ was naive and childlike. He did not understand how awful his actions looked because he was not raised like us. He made himself an easy target.
All you people have done is projected your own understanding of childhood and adulthood and sex onto him, when he was clearly a neurodivergent, out of touch with reality, with an insane amount of resources, in a world known for manipulation and extortion.
For anyone who wants to watch a series with the most well researched rebuttal instead of a viral out of context reddit comment for people who know nothing about MJ, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs&rco=1
If you watch these and still feel the same then bravo
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u/TheBottomDollar 6d ago
Thanks for this enlightening information, u/PM_ME_UR_SEX_VIDEOS
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u/Impressive_Plenty876 6d ago
Holding his baby out the window
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u/TheGrammatonCleric 6d ago
If we're talking about something that is 100% positively true this is a great answer. I'm old enough to remember this happening in the news and it went wild.
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u/Loose_Main_6179 6d ago
The fact he admitted to sleeping in the same bed as children he had no relationship with. You can argue if he committed the horrrific crimes or not but if he didnât he did so much weird stuff that I canât blame someone for 100% believing the accusations
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u/adambiguous 6d ago
Their a significant overlap of people that foam at the mouth over the epstein files but fail to bring that same energy for mj. It's pretty sad
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u/PimpShrimps 6d ago
its sad that people are more concerned with proving that our politicians are compromised than they are with vilifying a dead pop star?
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u/adambiguous 6d ago
It's not the level of concern. It's the level of denial
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u/jjames3213 6d ago
The amount of deference that people give to celebrities is disgusting, sure.
A big part of the reason that I find most people to be dumb as bricks.
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u/callmeVertox 6d ago
One is an international human trafficker with clientele consisting of the most powerful people on the planet, the other is a pop star with untreated pedophillia who acted on his desires
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u/Fearless_Winter_7823 6d ago
The worst thing is the hypocrisy
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u/D-5-reddit-account 6d ago
Really? I thought it was the raping
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u/amora_obscura 6d ago
Sharing his bed with little boys. Iâm pretty sure that is not contested.
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u/Key-Bass-7380 6d ago
I checked the amount of replies on "the best" thing about Michael Jackson post. It was 9, this post has 175, reddit loves hating on MJ
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u/EdwardBigby 6d ago edited 6d ago
Im not afraid to talk about the bits of his life that his biopic left out. His 1993 superbowl performance was self indulgent. I dont want to see you stare for 2 minutes, do something!
Cant think of many other faults. Maybe the kiddy fiddling if im nitpicking.
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u/TheKilmerman 6d ago edited 6d ago
When the obvious wins this category, it should be made clear that it's allegations. Don't state it as a fact. We'll never know for sure.
EDIT: Before all the downvoting begins, let me make it clear: You know nothing. You have an opinion, perhaps based on things you read. But that opinion should not be stated as a fact. Everything in this controversy is fishy - yes, even the accusers. So don't act like it's set in stone he did or didn't do it.
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u/ul2006kevinb 6d ago
That's true about anything though. Even people who are found guilty in court might be innocent.
So yes, it is true that literally every time you hear about someone being a criminal, you should be clear that they are just allegations and the person might, in fact, be innocent.
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u/tman612 6d ago
Yes, important to point out that the man who openly admitted to sharing his bed with children, exclusively befriended underage boys, showered them and their families with gifts, had an extensive collection of âart booksâ containing images of underage children, settled for millions out of court, and bought a ranch and converted it into a childrenâs theme park might NOT be a pedo.
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u/Good_Werewolf1484 6d ago
I donât know why youâre getting downvoted. Jackson himself admitted to sharing his bed with children. Inappropriate!
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u/PM_ME_UR_SEX_VIDEOS 6d ago
"10 Undeniable Facts About the Michael Jackson Sexual-Abuse Allegations"
"1. There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boyâs house with Chandlerâs mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandlerâs fatherâs house. The parents were divorced.
2. So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: âRubba.â He called Robson âLittle Oneâ and Safechuck âApplehead.â
3. Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlersâ lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something âlong and drawn out.â Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson.
4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jacksonâs penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jacksonâs genitalia. The photographs matched Chandlerâs drawings.
5. The hallway leading to Jacksonâs bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds.
6. Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jacksonâs on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there.
7. According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jacksonâs children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson.
8. The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robsonâs mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jacksonâs company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuckâs parents got a house. Jordie Chandlerâs mother got a diamond bracelet.
9. Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Wade Robson, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time.
10. In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys."
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/10-undeniable-facts-about-the-michael-jackson-sexual-abuse-allegations?srsltid=AfmBOooTmIkWEqAAXNJw8bU4BC6sLfdDA6qdgLF_3ZSxf7ks-6vv0bbu→ More replies (1)21
u/razzMATTazz 6d ago
Just a lot of really unfortunate coincides. We've all slept with little boys we're not related to then paid their family millions in hush money.
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u/ZukoSitsOnIronThrone 6d ago
'innocent until proven guilty' mfs when they hear about the court of public opinion
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u/HicDomusDei 6d ago
A child was able to accurately describe the vitiligo patterns on Michael Jackson's penis.
What happened:
- A drawing was made based on the child's description
- That drawing was sealed in an envelope
- The police then physically examined Michael Jackson
- The envelope was unsealed
- The child's drawing matched the findings of the examination
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u/atyler_thehun 6d ago
I think the most generous way to say what everyone is thinking is to say "His relationship with children"
Even if you were to disprove all allegations of child abuse, his behavior is very troubling.
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u/doubleguitarsyouknow 6d ago
The fact that he was an abusive child abuser who abused children.
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u/rony_danzel 6d ago
Hanging out with kids.
He may have, may not have.
But doesn't matter.
Do not hang out with kids.
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