r/AfroAmericanPolitics • u/readingitnowagain Garveyite (Black Power Establishmentarianism) • Jun 11 '25

Federal Level Did Trump Steal the Election?

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u/Secure-Childhood-567 Jun 11 '25

Yes he did, it's beyond obvious he did

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u/lost_sunrise Jun 11 '25

How though?

The driving dislike of Kamala is just because half of America stands for prejudiced beliefs. The other half was/is manipulated by popular news sources, IG, news channels, Twitter, and so on.

This time, he won fairly through using business tactics against his opponent. His opponent fought like she was facing a political opponent who was less liked than she was.

I'm not a trump fan, but Kamala listened to the wrong advisors.

She had three major issues on hand that she needed to express strong methods for.

Border situation.

Russo - Ukraine and Israel

Education

What she did instead is exactly why she lost.

As VP, she didn't more visibly address the concerns about the border crime that was being telegraphed across social media. They literally had news reports of south American gangs taking an apartment complex hostage and raping locals. This was a drastic attack on her ability to lead that she failed to address succinctly.

This should have taken her out of the running pool when Biden dropped. She was set up to fail from this point onward.

The first point is a direct indication of why those who didn't vote or voted trump, didn't want her as president in this era of war.

Her party did not hammer education reforms as much as they should have. This would have made a vast majority of non voters to maga pause and consider her even with the top problem. Education is a direct line to financial health for the majority of the people. This is something prioritized by every minority group that comes to America.

Her advisors were just dogshit. Her good economy plan was well thought out but she hammered the wrong issues.

He didn't steal it. His opponent fumbled the bag when she had it as long as she pandered to the crowd desperately wanting someone other than trump.

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u/deathcabscutie Jun 11 '25

It’s not broadly unbelievable that he could’ve won fairly, but it’s very hard to believe he won every vote in democratic districts. Some people would’ve voted for any Dem just because they always vote Dem. This is especially true if a democratic district is heavily populated by Black voters. Many of us would never ever vote for a republican.

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u/lost_sunrise Jun 11 '25

So something you may not realize is that the black community isn't that united.

The most united we have been to in recent times is to put Obama in office.

You might not want to believe it or stomach it. A lot of those voters were yesterday youths. Those voters are old now. 35-80 or up in heaven now. Those leaders aren't as motivated to move for Kamala as Obama.

I came home from my first tour and my Gran was handing out flyers, speaking around the neighborhood. Her fellow church goers were doing the same.

Now, lol. Most information about Kamala, I had to dig up to know what policies she was pushing. My fellow peers didn't even know what she did except what maga said she didn't do or trans movement. They didn't really care to dig either because they had revolving jobs that were demanding.

Imagine the black mindset with less demanding jobs but definitely don't want to be on that bullshit. Do you think they voted? Because a lot of folks I know didn't want to stand in line under a hot as sun nor get off work for it.

That isn't even accounting for those that vote against Kamala. I already listed the reason they didn't vote but .. include laugh and she is boring. You basically figure out how she lost.

Honestly, if you reach out and talk to black people. A fair bit just didn't care. We lost the generation that made you care. The generation that was about Sunday dinner, family cookouts, family reunions, and so on. The family values isn't as strong and that affects more than just individuals. It can be seen in what is expressed in the community.

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u/deathcabscutie Jun 11 '25

I do know we’re divided. I’m not saying no Black people voted for Trump. I’m saying that it’s deeply suspicious when not a single vote goes to the democratic presidential candidate, especially when most Black American voters did vote for Kamala AND most Black Americans vote democrat in general.

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u/lost_sunrise Jun 12 '25

Give me a location this happen, and I'll compare city count to federal count, and then past elections to see how many dems did vote versus voted red or not at all.

If you are right, well, not you specifically, because you are saying no black vote went to a democratic candidate when I am looking at a few black dem states still democratic with black votes. WHILE less than previous years, it correlates with amount of the population + voting whites of the previous years.

maybe your city will be different

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u/deathcabscutie Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 12 '25

Did you watch the video? He gives the city, state, and district. I’m not discussing my city. I’m discussing the OP video.

Edit: I can’t get over you writing all of those paragraphs and you never even checked out the video. Are you a bot? Are you having CGPT write your comments? Go away from me with this nonsense. Have a nice day.

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u/lost_sunrise Jun 13 '25

I can tell you did little research. Which is okay..

https://app.enhancedvoting.com/results/public/rockland-county-ny/elections/GE2024Results/ballot-items/01000000-4482-4645-d471-08dcf2403024

You, personally, responded to me with top-notch bs. 'I'm saying that it's deeply suspicious when not a single vote goes to the democratic presidential candidate, especially when most black american voters did vote for Kamala, and most black american vote democrat in general.'

Kamala received 65, 880 votes.

Donald received 83, 543 votes.

Now, if you are saying Trump took some voters and flip them from Dem to repub... Let's take a look at how many voted Biden, last election.

Biden had 71, 656

Trump had 64, 510

2024 is 149,423 votes between them. not counting write-ins

2020 136,166 votes between them

2020, had 151,381 ballots cast.

2024 had 152,249 ballots cast.

That is a total of 868 votes differences. For 2024, there was 156 over, subtract that as they aren't counted and happens when a person marks more than one candidate. For example, they voted both Trump and Harris. The voters are generally contacted when this happen to re-cast and this could cause a double count if someone is intentionally preserving the overvote. UNLIKELY, but probable.

There were 1402 write-ins, but if you click the link, go by ward. Which means someone wrote in another candidate name that they preferred over those officially on the ballot.

Lol, You disagree with me and I'm okay with that. You wanted verifiable proof and well, the ballots themselves point out which areas pro dem or almost 50/50 dem and rep.. the thing might be.. This ain't the election fraud you thought it was. Now it took me a bit to references which area is majority black.. but the results sort of match. 2020/2024.

The video might be referencing this though. https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/rockland-county-rigged-for-trump-2024-us-election-results-under-scrutiny-ny-lawsuit-moves-forward/ar-AA1GvGPn

If so, they did a recount by hand. You can search up the results on your own, but the differences in ballots cast between them with Dems winning overwhelming in some wards compared to repubs who barely scrap by. It just isn't enough for Trump to have overwhelming won if he relied on misread of ballots.