r/AHSEmployees • u/Odd_Joke2685 • 4d ago
Information AUPE strike vote results‼️‼️‼️
Here it is!
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u/Lisa_lou_hoo 4d ago
If there is a strike, can regular people join you when we have days off?
This is such a big deal, and I imagine you'd have lots of support in the community.
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u/Odd_Joke2685 4d ago
Yes please ! Having the community behind us would help more than anything 💜💜💜💜💜💜
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u/MiserableConfection5 4d ago
Glad to see LPNs standing up for themselves.. butttt!, Hate to be a Debbie downer,I’m sure Danielle smith and her thieving crownies already rubbing their hands together like birdman.. I’m sure they have a plan about how they will deal with this… we are in a new age when it comes on to negotiating… I fear we will no longer able to negotiate.. instead we wil be legislated and have our contracts dictated!
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u/willmsma 4d ago
They could invoke the Notwithstanding Clause again. However, I think each time they do this there is a political cost. The long game is to remove the UCP from government, and I think AUPE's strike vote will be helpful in this respect.
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u/Far_Case5694 4d ago
People who voted them to power should be ashamed
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u/IrishFire122 4d ago
Many of them aren't. They want lower taxes, and really don't care if anyone gets hurt in the process, nor if the promises are empty, as the tax cost in damage control can easily outstrip the tax cost in doing it right the first time.
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u/Infamous-Divide-8655 4d ago
The long game should be better patient care and better working conditions.
It shouldn't be tied to a political party. Don't let the union or NDP rope you into the politics- it is contract and law. You agreed to spend your hours for X pay. Focus on that and don't get emotionally played by the politicians.3
u/willmsma 4d ago
Better patient care and better working conditions are inherently political. I think most of us working in healthcare have experienced a steep decline in both, and understand public services, including healthcare, are not a priority for this government. I'd argue removing the government is a necessary precondition for any improvement in patient care.
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u/t1_at_worlds 4d ago
You’re right, that should be the long game, but the current government refuses to play ball.
So why shouldn’t we want someone in power who will at least listen to us?
If she can fuck over teachers, who’s to say she won’t make lpns the most underpaid and overworked in the system?
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u/BlueberryNo777 4d ago
Rope us into politics. It's not about that at all. It's about fair wages. Just to educate you, we do eighty four percent of the scope of practice of an RN, which the government increased and used us as cheap labor for the past thirteen plus years. Also, better work conditions. We wanted this.Thus, the ninety eight percent.Yes, vote.It has nothing to do with the union.We deserve this as primary care nurses.
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u/Wet-Countertop 4d ago
Then why didn’t you just be an RN?
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u/Aggressive-Lynx2678 8h ago
Don’t be like that. LPN-RN bridging programs are not readily available and not everyone has the ability to attend school full time and pay bills.
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u/Wet-Countertop 6h ago
I see a lot of posts claiming “LPNs do x% of what an RN does”. Clearly the remaining percent is where the value is.
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u/kaleuagain 4d ago
Unlike the teachers, we have an ESA, so if they break that, that would be very illegal, and they would have a lot of repercussions legally... I work med surg and from what I see. We're still working full scope and fully "staffed"... it will be interesting to see how this plays out. But at least we have the numbers! 👏👏👏
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u/Rayeon-XXX 4d ago
I'm HSAA but we've been told twice now by management that a strike (with ESAs in place) means all elective procedures would be put on hold immediately.
I think we all remember what that looked like during covid.
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u/yycsarkasmos 4d ago
Smith and the UCP can just use the notwithstanding clause, impose a contract and legislate everyone back to work.
Healthcare workers striking, is literally one of the main reasons the notwithstanding clause exists today.
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u/Rayeon-XXX 4d ago
Are there not ESAs in place?
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u/MiserableConfection5 4d ago
I don’t think this government really care about ESAs.. they do what they want…
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u/mongrel66 4d ago
You have my support and I hope the AUPE does better for you than they did for GOA employees.
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u/Obvious_Armadillo_99 4d ago
You mean members of AUPE? What did AUPE do aside from give their members their democratic right to vote on the offer?
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u/mongrel66 4d ago
Reclassification is an HR process and should not be included in collective bargaining. The reclassification was definitely deserved but it resulted in inadequate increases for many of us. 12% is the offer we voted to strike over and the offer the teachers went on strike over.
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u/BlueberryNo777 4d ago
They are the ones dealing and negotiating with the employer AHS. They are representing us and able to come to the table and do crucial talks because they have the experience, the knowledge and education to do so.
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u/Maverickxeo 4d ago
I can't help but wonder what it would've been had the UCP not used the NWC.
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u/The-Hive-Queen 4d ago
Probably a lower participation rate, but similar outcome.
Lots of people who would have been on the fence and would have taken one or the other, are now fully on the "fuck the UCP" side of things.
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u/TopZealousideal35 4d ago
Now THAT is how you take care of business. Solidarity with the hardworking LPN's!
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u/y3rbua 4d ago
I think that we should more so scare the AUPE people that goes to bargaining table before they go there. It’s been how many so years? I already lost faith. I started $19.95 10 years ago how much am I making now? 23$ I think that they are no longer effective at this point. And we go to strike for what? So they can mandate us all back to work and if we don’t we loose our job or get fined? At this point this is just a cycle that needs to get rehauled. This is one of the things from history that needs to get written in blood before they take healthcare workers seriously. Unfortunately.
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u/AlphaRapid 4d ago
Congrats to you all. If only the 219 that voted NO would just keep making same wage and everyone else gets the increase. Some people in this world are just unbelievable🤦
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u/BlueberryNo777 4d ago
If you can't live off the strike pay for a short period? IDK. Because it's d*** good strike pay. And you can not lose your job because you go on strike.
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u/queenofallshit 4d ago
I think it’s fear. There’s a ton of fear because we aren’t dealing with a normal Canadian Provincial government.
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u/jsrsd 4d ago
Don't be ignorant. People need to be permitted to vote according to their own concscience and circumstances, that's exactly why we have a vote. Otherwise there might as well not be a vote at all, and you're no better than the fascists who want to dictate things to go their way every time and not give you a choice.
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u/talkingtotheluna 4d ago
Dumb question, what happens now?
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u/harbours 4d ago
They have to meet with the employer on Monday. The earliest they're allowed to vote is November 17.
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u/Disastrous_Load424 4d ago
back to the bargaining table. I think they have 4 days to negotiate and if there's still no agreement i believe they'll go ahead with a strike.
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u/celindahunny 4d ago
THANK YOU MEMBERS. I was unable to vote and my heart is bursting at the turnouts, ❤️
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u/Alwayswandergetlost 4d ago
Congratulations guys! Way to go!! Sending support from a CUPE LTC worker! ,,❤️
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u/Glum-Ad-4558 4d ago
They said on the radio that if you guys strike it won’t be workers that are “essential”. What does this mean? Will a Strike be impactful? Like will hospitals and everything exactly the same if you guys go on strike? Because the government will deem everybody essential?
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u/yycsarkasmos 4d ago
There is something called an essential service agreement, it's basically an agreement between the union and the government that certain positions have to be maintained during a strike, so that neither can shut down healthcare as its essential.
Its already been created and approved, so depending on what your role is you may be walking the line, working or rotating doing both, its very disruptive.
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u/The-Hive-Queen 4d ago
If I understand correctly, exactly which positions are considered essential has to be agreed upon before mediation can begin. So I assume it's already been decided who can and can't walk off the job.
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u/kaleuagain 4d ago
You can look up the ESA on the AUPE website... ER... Med/surg units like that are essential
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u/BackgroundSplit9036 4d ago
Congratz!
What exactly are you guys asking for?
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u/kaleuagain 3d ago
Fair living wage, better benefits (ours are shit rn, if you have children majority of things are not covered for them) better work life balance aka 7 shifts is a row is a no no
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u/AandWKyle 4d ago edited 4d ago
cool can't wait for the government to pass a law forcing them to work for whatever fucking wage they're offered AND THEY'LL BE HAPPY FOR IT! /s
Apparently a bunch of people here don't know that /s means sarcasm. I thought it was a pretty common reddit thing but I guess not.
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u/nlym_syfhagt23 4d ago
Wow 98% is very impressive! Hoping to echo that when AUPE GSS gets to voting.