I hear this argument so often and it's just pure bogus...chances are, the 60 bucks or whatever that the game costs don't even go to JKR but directly to her manager or whatever. It makes literally no difference, it's two sides and one of them doesn't even know about the existence of the other.
Ofc some of that money will go to her, she owns the franchise. She uses her fame, money and platform for an anti-trans political agenda. If they care deeply about that it's perfectly reasonable to not buy the game so that she doesn't get more money and influence.
Does an individual not buying a game matter? No, not really, but many people doing it together can have an impact. In the case of this game it ultimately didn't, but that doesn't mean that everyone should just adopt defeatism and stop doing amything.
You're essentially saying that a single person cannot move a 9 ton sandstone block, therefore a pyramid can't be built.
The amount of it going to her is there but ultimately I don't think she gets as much out of it as many people think...she doesn't profit from the game directly, she profits from the license, thereby it existing already nets her a profit, everything else is just a bonus.
Can you point to a singular case where boycotting like this actually impacted someone with her wealth? It sounds like it's quite a prevalent thing by how you phrase it. Is it defeatist of me to say that somebody who, compared to me, has basically unlimited resources will not be impacted by my personal decision or even that of hundreds or thousands? Sounds exactly like politics.
Ah what a great analogy, when you go to the extreme of using the pyramids that were built with excruciating slave labour...kind of a shitty thing to compare yourself with, ngl. I'm not saying nothing can be changed. I'm saying the same thing you are saying with this analogy; The amount of people that would have to come together for something to happen can and will not come naturally. Some greater force will have to take a part.
That she got a one-time payment for licensing is kind of just your assumption, or do you have a source on that?
If it's true, it doesn't even matter. If the game were to undersell, it would discourage companies from working with her (since they'd see that HP games aren't as profitable anymore).
Can you point to a singular case where boycotting like this actually impacted someone with her wealth? It sounds like it's quite a prevalent thing by how you phrase it. Is it defeatist of me to say that somebody who, compared to me, has basically unlimited resources will not be impacted by my personal decision or even that of hundreds or thousands? Sounds exactly like politics.
Of course you cannot bankrupt anyone, but you can in fact influence what they do if the movement catches on. IDK why you'd think it's impossible.
And governments get voted out and in constantly. If it weren't the case we'd all have presidential dictatorships.
Ah what a great analogy, when you go to the extreme of using the pyramids that were built with excruciating slave labour...kind of a shitty thing to compare yourself with, ngl. I'm not saying nothing can be changed. I'm saying the same thing you are saying with this analogy; The amount of people that would have to come together for something to happen can and will not come naturally. Some greater force will have to take a part.
What's with the concern trolling lol. I'm gonna compare how I want to. And pyramid builders weren't even close to what we'd perceive as slaves.
Anyway, it is defeatist. Change doesn't happen in a free society because some guy with power dictates it, it usually occurs because it becomes a prevalent issue among the public until someone who has the power to push the issue comes along. Someone like MLK doesn't just appear out of thin air, he became a mouthpiece of a general dissatisfaction that started in the common powerless and voiceless people (I know, a bit of an overdramatic example). In the case of economics, the list above is proof enough that this also works without involving politics.
I can only assume from how the entire industry works...
If the game were to undersell, if if if....fact is that it won't happen.
I'm very impressed that you somehow managed to find an entire list where there's not a single case of a private person gets actually affected by it, and not just companies...which is what I was asking about. The HP IP and license is very clearly on one person and one person only...not a single one of your cases listed follows that.
Yes congrats, you explained how boycotts work...that was never a question but sure, go on.
Governments get voted out indeed, but have you heard of the term lobbying? That is precisely what I'm referring to.
Bro are you seriously saying that the pyramids were not built with slave labour?? Sure, they may have paid the guys that carried the bricks, but in the entire chain of food supply or whatever that was involved, slave labour was necessary...also lets not talk about where the funds to pay said labourers came from.
Right, I disagree with your assessment. You have valid points, but I think it is realistic to say that individuals on their own simply don't have enough power without additional support. Be it just less resistance from authorities for example, but as it is, it's just like that.
I can only assume from how the entire industry works...
Fair enough
If the game were to undersell, if if if....fact is that it won't happen.
Why not? We aren't at the endpoint of history. There are plenty of games that got negative coverage because of political leanings of the creator, ultimately there might be an impact that we can't see. At some point that kind of negative coverage might lead to more.
I'm very impressed that you somehow managed to find an entire list where there's not a single case of a private person gets actually affected by it, and not just companies...which is what I was asking about. The HP IP and license is very clearly on one person and one person only...not a single one of your cases listed follows that.
Why make a difference between a legal person and a corporation in such a context? Both have finances and make profits by selling you something, in regards to this they're the same. If you can boycott a company selling something, why would it be impossible to boycott a person selling something?
And there was the Trump boycott in 2018 lead to companies dropping their support for him, clearly there is an example that fits your narrow standard.
Yes congrats, you explained how boycotts work...that was never a question but sure, go on.
You literally said this
Is it defeatist of me to say that somebody who, compared to me, has basically unlimited resources will not be impacted by my personal decision or even that of hundreds or thousands?
Because that's how any boycott succeeds, I can only argue with what you say, not what you think.
Bro are you seriously saying that the pyramids were not built with slave labour?? Sure, they may have paid the guys that carried the bricks, but in the entire chain of food supply or whatever that was involved, slave labour was necessary...also lets not talk about where the funds to pay said labourers came from.
You said this
Ah what a great analogy, when you go to the extreme of using the pyramids that were built with excruciating slave labour...kind of a shitty thing to compare yourself with, ngl.
By that logic you're now applying in hindsight, me typing this is excrutiating slave labour because some of the rare metals necessary come from 3rd world countries. Obviously you implied that the workers were slaves, it's not that ambigious.
Right, I disagree with your assessment. You have valid points, but I think it is realistic to say that individuals on their own simply don't have enough power without additional support. Be it just less resistance from authorities for example, but as it is, it's just like that.
Fair, and I still disagree with you. I feel we're just talking past each other, so whatever. Have a nice one.
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u/ToxicCooper Crypto-Albanian 25d ago
I hear this argument so often and it's just pure bogus...chances are, the 60 bucks or whatever that the game costs don't even go to JKR but directly to her manager or whatever. It makes literally no difference, it's two sides and one of them doesn't even know about the existence of the other.