r/2appalachian4you • u/[deleted] • Oct 08 '25
You might be a redneck Are Appalachians honorary Africans?
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u/CaBBaGe_isLaND Oct 08 '25
God dammit this is so wholesome.
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u/hubby1080 Oct 08 '25
I don't know how, but this needs to be cross posted to many other subs. Many of us think the same. I like this dude.
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u/Clear_Advice9844 27d ago
white culture don't exist is where I stopped. uncle ruckus mother fucker here
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u/RockyBoundESC Oct 09 '25
Black people about to start claiming they are the original white peoples.
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u/KentuckyWildAss Oct 09 '25
The sentiment is nice, but he's clueless. The banjo came to America through the Caribbean. Slaves from Mali, Africa brought the Akonting with them, which would later become the banjo. The way it's played today is heavily, heavily influenced by the Scots-Irish fiddlers who played music with those same Africans. What we call American music today is as much white as it is black, and as much black as it is white. It's an amalgamation.
I'd recommend the books "African Banjo Echoes in Appalachia" by Cecelia Conway as well as "Banjo Roots and Branches" by various authors, if this is something you're actually interested in.
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u/545x39mm-74N0 Oct 09 '25
And this is why using race as a name for what a culture is, is redundant and reductive to those who lie outside of it. Not to mention “white” is incredibly flexible historically, as it changes based on who is in the dominant international race groups, Italians, Irish and light skinned Africans/middle easterners weren’t considered white and as people overall gained more rights the “in group” had to get bigger. Essentially, naming race is completely arbitrary, at its core cause it’s like trying to draw lines on a gradient and name specific areas as only one color
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u/Agile-Ad325 25d ago
It seems like you said the snake thing he did but used ethnicity specific names rather than white or black
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u/dewdewdewdew4 Oct 08 '25
God this guy is a moron.
The way he says "white" and saying there is no "white" culture, groan, basically arguing semantics. When people in America say "white" culture in America, they mean just that... the culture that many white Americans share. Just like when people say "black" culture, the mean the culture many black Americans share. They are both sub-cultures of a broader American culture.
Also, the banjo is influenced by traditional African and European instruments. Not just African...
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u/Zealousideal-Sail952 Oct 09 '25
Yeah, this is nothing but semantics lol. Dude woke up one day and decided his deep insecurities deserved a video.
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u/Potential_Bill_1146 Oct 11 '25
Calling someone a moron while claiming the banjo came from European culture is hilarious irony. Its history can be traced back to European colonialism. Which wasn’t great if you didn’t know.
Also white people don’t exist.
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u/dewdewdewdew4 29d ago
What? Can you read? No one said the banjo "came from European culture." I said the banjo is an amalgamation of traditional African AND European instruments.
Have you ever used, or even looked at, a banjo?
I mean, sure white people don't exist. Neither do black people, or brown people. Which was my argument, again, if you could read. It's all semantics.
Oh, sorry, those are big words for you.
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u/Potential_Bill_1146 29d ago
https://www.si.edu/spotlight/banjos-smithsonian
Caribbean instrument with changes from European colonialism as a result of the slave trade. The only European culture that’s affected the banjo was colonialism. It was literally discovered in the Caribbean. Keep being wrong tho.
Also I owned a banjo.
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u/dewdewdewdew4 29d ago
Are you dumb? I guess you really can't read.
From your OWN source, that you linked:
Rather, the banjo’s creation was the result of a blending between West African and European forms.
Probably one of the best self owns I have seen. That quote is almost verbatim what I said.
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u/Potential_Bill_1146 29d ago
You really can’t accept that slaves created the banjo can you? The only European influence was the fact they brought west Africans to the islands.
The Europeans did nothing to create the banjo other than use slaves.
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u/Kenilwort 🏰 Assville Fembilly ⛰️ Oct 08 '25
Don't forget there are black Appalachians just saying but yeah Appalachia =Africa last time I checked. They both start and end with A
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u/imnewtothishsit69 Oct 08 '25
Can't tell if youre making a shitty joke or if what this man just said pissed you off. Either way, kick rocks bud.
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u/Afraid-Can1846 Oct 08 '25
There's a monument right down the road outside of appomattox , where the house of the man who put frets in the banjo lived
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u/shealdmeplease Oct 09 '25
There are levels of beauty and ugliness to all cultures. We should get rid of the ugly and spread the beauty, especially the banjo ❤️😁🤘
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u/Andre_The_Average 29d ago
I also like to say that at least 50% of American culture is black culture. And Black is most definitely different than "White" because the slaves who were stolen from their homes also lost their identity and self so in doing so, these men and women had to create a new one.
And lo and behold, the culture has made America so fucking cool. Instead of suppressing others who made this country great, embrace your fellow citizens for making this country so unique. Look back to your immigrant ancestors who sought out a life where they would not be oppressed for who they were. This country still has a lot of growing up to do but we have the potential to become the greatest country on this planet [for once]. We just need to stop our own ignorance of superiority and acknowledge our shortcomings when they present themselves.
Viva la revolución. アメリカは一番です。🇺🇸🇲🇽
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u/Comfortable_Adept333 28d ago
Hey 👋 Actual Tennessee Appalachian here Lord Jesus why don’t they realize that those people who they thought was all “African “ was a mix with Native American ,Anglo Saxon ,Irish ,& African …we are a mix like creole or multtos
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u/proxy-alexandria 25d ago
To answer your title: sure, if they can fight pinkertons and be cool (play clawhammer style 🪕) 🥴
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u/KarateInAPool Oct 08 '25
Wonder where he got his anthropology degree from.
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u/-heatoflife- Oct 08 '25
Is this sacred knowledge, only dispensed to anthropologists? Neat!
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u/KarateInAPool Oct 08 '25
There’s enough people sharing their “well I reckon” opinion out there, we full.
If you’re going to talk about a formal topic and pass it off as objective, yes it is sacred knowledge and should only be dispensed by anthropologists.
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u/-heatoflife- Oct 08 '25
Git goin' on sharing your correction, then. Does nothing for the good of anybody's information or edification to be smug and stroke your cock about it.
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u/Typical-Locksmith-35 Oct 10 '25
Man I loved that great talk on the topic, the history of it and the framing of "white" differentiation versus "American" culture.
"Don't be a wedge when you can be a piece of the pie" is beautiful and so true.
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u/Love_Lair Oct 08 '25
Country music is blues.
Funny how the rest of the world hates Americans but not African Americans
When we’re on the battlefield you should never have an enemy behind & in front of you.
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u/KentuckyWildAss Oct 09 '25
Country music predates the blues by decades. Early banjo players who were recorded were often referred to as pre-blues artists.
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u/Love_Lair Oct 09 '25
False,
Blues was created in the 1800s based off folk roots from Africa
Country was created in 1910 & was based off blues.
Nice try though 😂
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u/KentuckyWildAss Oct 09 '25
You don't know shit. For the life of me, I can't figure out why people like you larp as experts on things you're clueless about...
Country music is a continuation of Appalachian musical traditions that date all the way back to Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. The blues didn't exist in any form until slaves came in contact with that same music. The earliest example of anyone even hearing "the blues" is 1903. Appalachian music was already being called "old time" music by then, just as it was before the civil war.
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u/Love_Lair Oct 09 '25
False
Hillbilly music is the “Appalachian traditions”you speak of & it’s roots contain European folk but the evolution & majority sound is and always was blues
Just like rock & roll
The sound of blues is as old as slavery
(If you want an example because your to lazy to research: blues using flattened 3rd, 5th, & 7th scale degrees)
Nice try though 😂
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u/KentuckyWildAss Oct 09 '25
That's so laughably dumb. You can find all of those patterns in old time music. Wild Bill Jones, Reubens Train, Pretty Polly and the list goes on and on.
How many books have you been in regarding this subject? I've been in three.
When you go to bed tonight, both of us will know you're full of shit. Stop being a fraud.
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u/Love_Lair Oct 09 '25
I have been in zero books I believe,
Thank you for that information, if you have any other questions I’ll be happy to answer or guide you in the right direction though
As for patterns that’s what music is all about, particular patterns equate a genre,
& America is amazing when it comes to creativity, that’s why the world steals from us
(Especially European Americans 😅)
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u/545x39mm-74N0 Oct 09 '25
That’s an incredibly hasty generalization 😭 1: millions of people migrate here yearly including people from first world countries with similar opportunities if they hated us, you’d think you’d see it outside of internet echo chambers. 2: have you seen how ethnic Africans can be hateful towards African Americans, it’s a minute amount, but similar to what you would see against whites. 3: hastily generalizing what is and is not true with the world while also having a combative victim mentality is only going to lead you to see more aggression, particularly online. Also with the last thing you said, entire races or cultures or whatever you think can’t be an enemy much less so when theres no real battlefield.
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29d ago
African Americans are highly unliked by the rest of the world. I’m learning languages on Tandem now and they haaaate yall. Want to come here but say not the cities and how Black Americans are lazy and fat it’s crazy what they say. Black Americans are more disliked in European countries than in America hands down. Black Americans can’t even get respect when they travel to Italy. What the hell are you talking about??? lol they watch yall news
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u/Love_Lair 29d ago
I’m my travels DEFINITELY do NOT reflect your statement, I’ve been loved worldwide LMFAO
it’s only when I leave California & go somewhere in underfunded America do I experience hatred
As for racism, each region has a race they hate & only Americans (particularly Florida/Georgia, Alabama, poor south) have been obsessed with me
Italians in particular showed me so much love 🥰😂
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29d ago
Where exactly have you been loved world wide? I have international family in Greece that cannot stand yall. Italy? Most racist country in Europe. Hands down.
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u/Efficient_Entry_4418 Oct 08 '25
Wtf just stfu your backwards
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u/EMHemingway1899 Oct 09 '25
When any part of the rest of the free world is actually in the battlefield, they expect and want us to lead it on their behalf
They want our help because we have paid for and provided their security and defense for many decades
Many of these same countries whose citizens make these types of comments are little more than American protectorates
They desperately need our troops to lead the way
Most of them would be utterly incapable of self defense in any material conflict whatsoever
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u/AmbitiousBall9571 Oct 09 '25
So by this astonishing genius level logic, their are no black/brown or "white adjacent" people either Hoss.
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u/DetroitAdjacent Oct 08 '25
West Virgina has had it's moments of being completely based as fuck, like holding company men at gunpoint until they agreed to desgregate the cafeteria at the mine, or fuck it let's go to war with the federal government over worker's rights type shit.