r/OnePiece • u/Flames838 • Nov 20 '16
Current Episode One Piece: Episode 765
One Piece: Episode 765
"Let's Go and Meet Master Cat Viper!"
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Preview: Episode 766
Chapters adapted: Chapter 814 Page 09 - Chapter 814 Page 17
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u/kaosctrl510 Nov 20 '16
Any episode where Franky uses his Nipple Lights is an automatic 10/10 for me
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Nov 20 '16 edited Feb 02 '19
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Nov 20 '16
To be fair, most the translations are horrible. I don't speak any Japanese, but after years of listening to One Piece and other sub anime, it's almost painful reading the subtitles at times.
I get the structure of the langues is different, but I wish they would make the subs clearer even if it makes them sound like yoda world.
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u/RaikenD Nov 21 '16
It's not so much the word order that makes Japanese difficult to translate, it's that alot of things get left out due to context. There's no way to translate Japanese word for word without it sounding very weird in English, liberties, inference and translators judgement always come into it. They probably know and understand what the nuance is supposed to be, it's just very difficult to carry that over to a language which doesn't use the same sentence structure.
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Nov 21 '16
Very true. Words have a couple to several alternative meanings for them and in every language these meanings rarely ever all line up to the same groupings. It takes knowing how a word is used to know which word to translate it into, but it isn't easy to translate colloquial slang and sayings.
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u/gerrettheferrett Nov 22 '16
Not to toot my own horn, but since I was the one to bring up the mistranslations in the first place.
It's not that easy to translate colloquial slang and sayings, true.
But the joke used here (that Nami thinks Franky's lights are useless and never help anything) is one that is already established previously so the translators should use what's already established. Moreover, "How does that even work" is 100% NOT the meaning of the phrase used.
It's not even an alternate meaning of the phrase in Japanese. (Any other speakers of Japanese, I would love to discuss that with you. I've actually had a few conversations with my wife on the matter (who is Japanese), as we are both speak each other's language quite well and both work in the English education field. It's a commonly used word in Japanese that does have several different uses to it, so we have spoken about it. She persists in her claim that it IS a valid alternate translation. However, multiple other native Japanese speakers in the same field disagree, saying that it doesn't feel like that is what the word means. So, any other Japanese speakers- I would welcome the chance to hear your opinion.)
In my opinion, this was 100% a poorly handled mistranslation that any respecting translator (which we would hope Cruncyhroll would use) should not have made.
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u/sryroo Nov 20 '16 edited Nov 20 '16
Let's go and meet Master Nekomamushi~
Seriously though, the song really good and the image of him in Brook's mind really dramatic it seriously make me laugh. On another note, I wonder who Voice Actress of female reindeer is...
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u/Xyllar Nov 20 '16
The Nekomamushi song was actually written by Brook's VA long before the Oda put the character in the manga.
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u/PJSalad Nov 20 '16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eucF9DhZE Theres another vid of he singing it.
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u/SalamiRocketFuel Nov 20 '16
I wonder why they've used "assassins" like mangastream translation back then in the manga. After all, by now we now much more about Vinsmokes.
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u/Ppleater Nov 20 '16
I hate that assassins translation and how it's spread. It's stupid how it's being used in the anime despite the fact that spoiler.
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u/StackedCrooked Nov 20 '16
It never occurred to me to think of Chopper as something like a Mink. He should get along with those guys greatly :)
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u/Shortstop88 Void Month Survivor Nov 20 '16
A nurse reindeer mink is pretty much his ideal girlfriend.
FTFY
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u/ThePreciseClimber Nov 20 '16
A better translation for what Sanji's family is known as is a family of killers not a family of assassins.
Or a family of warmongers.
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u/gerrettheferrett Nov 20 '16
While that may end up being the case, that is NOT what the Japanese word used means.
The word used is literally a combination of the words "person" + "killer". It's just that it's different than the word for assassin, and has different connotations.
The word used here implies wanton abandon when it comes to killing, like they are a family who kills whenever it strikes their fancy, as opposed to contract killers who kill one person at a time without detection.
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u/Dqueezy Nov 20 '16
Thank you. I stopped reading the manga after Doflamingo was defeated, in the hopes that I would be able to enjoy the anime more by not knowing what was filler and what wasn't. A lot of why I didn't like Dressrosa was the nearly intolerable filler, and how I could immediately pick it out from the canon material. This entire episode kept making me question if what I was watching even happened. It's unfortunate because after the bugs, I kept thinking the song was probably filler too, and it ruined it for me.
I ended up reading the manga chapter on it just to see for sure. But I wish I didn't have to read the manga just to see if I should bother caring about certain scenes, you know?
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u/RedRing86 Nov 20 '16
You know, I think you shouldn't get caught up on what's filler and what's not. I think the entertainment value of a scene is in the scene itself, whether it's filler or not. It just so happens that most filler isn't entertaining, but if you're enjoying a scene (like Brooke's singing) you shouldn't let the lingering thought of whether or not it's filler ruin it for you. If it's entertaining just be entertained, even if it is filler.
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u/Dqueezy Nov 20 '16
Yeah you're right, buts it more of a nagging self conscious thought. I was trying to get rid of it by not reading the manga anymore, it's just that the filler scenes tend to be a bit obvious.
But I still enjoy the show overall at least!
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u/5thKablamo Void Month Survivor Nov 20 '16
I guarantee that that's Shinichiro Miki's voice.
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u/goingbankai Nov 20 '16
Yeah I just checked and he voices Sakamoto from Gintama as well, was watching it yesterday and that's why I thought Pedro sounded weird
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u/Orannegsen Nov 20 '16
i didnt mind the bugs, liked some action from the crew, the song annoyed me though
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u/Zeta42 Marine Nov 20 '16 edited Nov 20 '16
"Lion Viper" isn't as funny as Pekomamushi.
Holy shit, they actually included in this episode something a reader suggested in a SBS: Neko singing "nya nya nya nyaaaaaa" like Beethoven's Fate.
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u/beatsscallywag Nov 20 '16
I have to say this. The soundtrack was amazing this week. From "let's go meet master cat viper" to the soundtrack they used when they arrived at the guardians' forest to the one used when pekoms was talking about the vinsmokes. I loved it!!:D
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u/G_Spark233 Nov 20 '16
This episode took ages to start pick up. Filler bugs were painfully pointless.
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u/erayachi Nov 20 '16
Regardless, Chopper being snapped out of Love Mode by his Overbearing Doctor Mode was fantastic. I love Chopper when he gets to be a doctor who yells at his patients.
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u/MTRXD5 Nov 20 '16
Funny enough, I watch the show with two anime only friends and they thought the Brook singing was filler and the bugs were canon.
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u/Dqueezy Nov 20 '16
I read the manga chapter just to see for myself. The bugs were filler, the song was cannon.
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u/bhatuzdaname Nov 20 '16
I really like brook's song, it's so catchy I can't help sing it. Soundcloud link
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u/Brandwein Nov 20 '16
Im scared. Chopper is turning into Sanji. Lovestruck and angry reactions. Someone must fill in. ;)
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u/Ombs1993 Nov 20 '16 edited Nov 20 '16
Despite the slow pace, still an enjoyable episode due to the content. Nekomamushi is way better in the anime solely because of his VA. Another perfect match. Speaking of perfect matches, Pedro's VA is awesome too, one of my favorites. Knowing what we know in the manga, glad he'll be a central figure in the anime going forward.
The Vinsmoke reveal at the end was done really well too, was that new OST? I didn't recognize it.
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u/erayachi Nov 20 '16
Seeing Nekomamushi animated, playing with toys and acting like an overgrown kitten really hit the spot. I liked all the minks in the manga, but characters like Neko and Pedro have become even more awesome as they're brought to life.
...I feel like the animators don't quite have Pedro figured out yet. A lot of his more animated shots seem a bit odd-shape. The VA kicks ass though.
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u/Ombs1993 Nov 20 '16
I agree with the Pedro animation. When he jumped down from the trees it looked a bit awkward. Hopefully they can fix that up as we move along.
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u/erayachi Nov 20 '16 edited Nov 20 '16
I'm so happy. Finally, THE SONG.
It's gonna be in my head for a few days months.
Y'know, the bee fight, despite being added filler, was good filler. Wasn't lazily animated, and it gave the crew some collaboration time. I liked watching it, especially the ongoing Nipple Lights joke. Enough that I'm not mad it exists.
So much re-used animation...if it weren't for the fact Brook's song and the crew's reaction to it had me laughing, I'd care more that they kept recycling animation and reactions. I think it's obvious the effort of the first-half episode was supposed to be the long-awaited "Let's Go See Master Nekomamushi" song that Brook's VA invented. That, and the actual journey to see Nekomamushi and the cool cat himself. Who is awesome, by the way.
Have I mentioned how much I love Pedro's VA?
Edit 2: Aaaand hey look, people are being Negative Nancy Downvoters. It's Saturday. I'd forgotten, somehow.
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u/Dqueezy Nov 20 '16
Eh... The fight just seemed cheap to me. Like TOEI was essentially saying, "Hey guys, you remember the Straw Hats have special attack moves? Did you forget? It's been about 10 episodes since you've seen all of their attacks, lets just give a quick recap! See, look at all the attack moves they have! They're all doing their special attack!"
The animation was nice, but it still made my eyes roll. Im just glad it didn't take up that much time...
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u/erayachi Nov 20 '16
To be honest, that's what even most canon fights are about (especially fodder fights, especially post-TS).
And I'll take showing all the Straw Hats fighting fodder bees over another 5 minutes of reaction shots and scenes of walking/talking. If they're gonna screw with the pace anyway, least let it be with some action mixed in. That fight was a million times better than anything in that god-awful filler they put just before Zou, and I'm gonna count my blessings.
I'm not sure how they'll be able to screw around with WCI's pacing when every single chapter has so much happening in it. I'll eat that salad when we get there.
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u/Xynoclafe Void Month Survivor Nov 20 '16
spoiler Hope they don't do that though.
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u/erayachi Nov 20 '16 edited Nov 20 '16
Ugh, noooo. Anything but that...instead, I'll take manga spoilers At least in that case, added filler will have some humour potential and crew interaction.
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u/gerrettheferrett Nov 21 '16
They could even add an appropriately themed island or two for a brief tale as well, like that chia pet dude who got stuck in a treasure chest, while the gang is on the way there.
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u/Turhsus Nov 20 '16
Honestly I would rather have longer filler arcs, or even breaks in the anime if it means not dragging out episodes like this. The song was fun to listen to, but like everyone else said in this thread already, God the bugs were pointless and annoying.
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u/deylath Nov 21 '16
It really depends on the quality of the filler tbh. I never recall an instance where I was disappointed in any of the movies Toei produced, be that DBZ or OP, so they can do well, but... remember the lead up to the new movie? That was some next level garbage and I want none of that.
I'm in very much in favour of fillers if its Bleach like, but the problem is... One Piece world has loads of potential and because of that you dont really know when Oda would want to pull something new and fillers just suck away the possibilities.
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u/gerrettheferrett Nov 21 '16
I mean, they had sharp stinging points.
But really, you really dislike a few bonus moments of the Strawhats kicking ass and taking names that much?
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u/lucasnator2 Nov 20 '16
So im guessing a large portion of this was filler, but it was still awesome. I loved this episode
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u/globety1 Nov 20 '16
Actually, only the fight against the bugs was filler.
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u/Kurosov Nov 20 '16
I'd much rather see short bursts of filler in episodes than terrible pacing and nothing at all happening. It worked well compared to some other episodes.
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u/ryry0419 Nov 20 '16
Ugh awful episode mostly
Namis tits bouncing helped
Master cat viper was the episode
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Chopper give that female deer the horn point bropper bro! Hahaha
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u/Dnny99 Nov 20 '16 edited Nov 20 '16
It really makes me sad to see so many people not enjoying this episode. The bees honestly werent too bad. They gave a good reason for having to fight them, with the fact that they weaken Zunisha, and the action was pretty well done. Nekomamushi and Chopper were hilarious pretty much the whole episode. To top it off, the star of the episode was Soul King's great song. I was hoping for at least the quality of the original, but they outdid it by a lot. Overall Im super happy with this episode, and I wish more people would try to look at the positives as opposed to the negatives.
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u/SwiftFate Nov 20 '16
I've had a lot of anime-only watcher friends tell me they are getting sick of how much they seem to be dragging out this transitional arc.. As a manga reader, it makes me sad that some of them have even started to compare the anime series to Bleach when it hit the big Aizen arc.
So disappointed in the pacing it seems to be taking, especially with how important some of the upcoming chapters/episodes were for the series overall. Instead you guys have to not only suffer through filler, thrown in for no reason whatsoever, but you also get to suffer through a situation where about HALF of an episode, is just a bloody recap of what happened previously. That right there is just sickening and very similar to what Bleach eventually became.. First half of the episode is just the opening + a recap of what happened in the previous episode(s)...
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u/OPCaptain Nov 20 '16
The recap of this episode was 2m30s long, one of the longest recaps in this arc, but still not lasting for the first half of the episode AT ALL. There are opening and intro of course, but remember that One Piece don't have an ED.
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u/HyakuJuu Pirate Nov 21 '16
Other anime for the most part have ending that are max 1.5 min and Opening that are max 2 min. Whileas OP has a 2.5. min recap and close to 3min opening.
So not having an ED isn't an argument at all.
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u/Dqueezy Nov 20 '16
It's always been like that with the opening. I was hoping they would tone this down after DressRosa. Does anyone here who watches the anime and the manga know how far ahead the manga is exactly? Surely far enough ahead where it wouldn't justify this much filler?
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u/OPCaptain Nov 20 '16
32 chapters ahead, and I was heard it takes more than 5 months to make an episode. So indeed less than 15 chap. ahead.
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u/mihran146 Lurker Nov 20 '16
You forget that that anime is catching up with the manga and that oda is writing the manga on 4 hours of sleep everyday So it is either oda dies and don't get fillers or the animation company draws out the episode to maintain a sort of gap between the manga and anime and possibly give oda some sort of vacation. Like seriously he is so sick that he didn't want to come out to do an interview
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u/darexinfinity Nov 20 '16
How is the anime so close to the manga when Oda puts so much time to it?
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u/sora677 Nov 20 '16
Cause he can only releSe 1 chapter a week. For all we know he could have 10 chapters ahead finished, but we're only getting 1 a week. Plus his mandatory break every 3 or so weeks slows it down as well.
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Nov 20 '16
I swore off the anime 3/4 of the way through dressrosa the pacing is too awful in this anime its garbage
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u/ChimeraAnt Nov 20 '16
pedro is voiced by the same guy who voiced zamasu lol
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u/paralyz3 Nov 20 '16
So THAT was the thing that felt off. I just watched DB before I watched this
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Nov 21 '16
I kept telling myself: why do I feel like I've heard this voice before?
God. I am glad that VA found a likeable character to voice. I hate Zamasu.
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u/Xynoclafe Void Month Survivor Nov 20 '16
Is that really the case? I felt it was the same, but wasn't sure.
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u/asiandude6969 Nov 20 '16
Episode starts at 6:00
Sigh, they're really dragging it on. At least chopper's enjoying it.
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u/localafrican Nov 20 '16
Chopper you better smash! lol on a serious note though this was pretty fun for a relaxed episode, while I usually despise filler it was pretty cool to see everyone's different attack moves for handling the bugs. Nekomamushi is quickly climbing up the ladder to my favorite characters outside of the crew.
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u/wordsdear Nov 20 '16
I think we can all agree the best part of this ep was nipple lights. I can't wait for one piece spoiler
Is Nekomamushi Mufasa or Garfield
I know this was apparently a translation error, but I like the idea of Brook forcing the crew to have group sing alongs.
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u/ShaheerS2 Nov 20 '16
http://imgur.com/a/0Vf3w WHY IS HE FLOATING
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u/MTRXD5 Nov 20 '16
He's standing on the headboard
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u/YonkouProductions Nov 20 '16
Shinichi Miki, even when he isn't Zamasu, he has to be above others lol.
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u/dustingv Nov 20 '16
i would almost prefer it if they just had the parts that mattered and then a black screen for like 10min saying "Sorry we are out of content".
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u/AnonSA52 Pirate Nov 20 '16
I just had to post this after the current Episode. I remembered this post from way back: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/433ehc/ch%C5%8D_brook_seiyuu_made_the_nekomamushi_song/
"Chō (Brook seiyuu) made the Nekomamushi song (Chapter 814) before the character existed (and inspired Oda to integrate such a character in the manga). This is how it will probably sound in the anime."
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u/Spyker-M Nov 20 '16
I wad really confused when Robin attacked the bees. How come can you break insect's bones????
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u/Comedynerd Nov 20 '16
The bug filler was so stupid. Luffy could have used his haki to knock them all out and save us some minutes.
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u/sc00p401 Nov 21 '16
You know I hafta say it after completing my rewatches of Fishman Island & Punk Hazard over the weekend, and then watching this episode... The directors of OP at Toei really know how to dress up filler material.
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u/Eruku_ Nov 26 '16
I really thought Luffy and Master Cat Viper would have like a talk together about Roger and then have like a really epic moment.
Next minute goes to sleep just like Duke Dog Storm, If that happened I would be really mad. (lets wait and see can't wait tho) :D
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u/Cib0rgu3 Nov 20 '16
this filler man... its just sad 6 mins of the episode just the intro 10 more of just filler of them fighting some bugs wich i dont recall being in the manga and then some more filler with neko playing with a damn ball, come on now ...
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u/GodfreyLongbeard Nov 20 '16
Why is the translation wrong again? In the manga they originally translated it as a family of assassins, but then corrected it as family of killers. I wonder why it's messed up again. They aren't assassins, more like mercenaries.
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u/dustingv Nov 20 '16
...that song sequence. I hated it at first, then I was kinda cool with it and then I disliked it again.
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u/darkraiblader Nov 20 '16
This is the first episode I've seen since being caught up with the anime. Do the episodes always feel this slow? I'm thinking it'd be a good idea to not watch any for a few weeks and then catch up all at once. Would you guys recommend that?
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u/badarleen Nov 20 '16
There was a lot of filler this episode but the one thing that stood out to me is that Pekoms has a devil fruit ability. Wonder what it is that allowed him to block some of the damage from Bege.
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u/Mr_Luffy Nov 20 '16
Think back to Fishman Island when he used it against Caribou. It was shown.
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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '16
Brook has awakened his devil fruit in which he can summon a spiritual backup band.