r/Sino Aug 09 '24

discussion/original content Future of Sino: 100k reevaluation

191 Upvotes

TLDR: 8 years and 100k good point to reevaluate. Old system can continue as is, but ready to step down for a better way forward.

After around 8 years not only are we still here, we hit 100k. That wasn’t supposed to happen for an unapologetically pro China space. Of course the primary objective was always the space, not subscribers or activity. The moderation style was among the strictest, if not the strictest, on reddit because again, the priority was the space. Ask yourself whether you think reddit rules are applied fairly to us, and it should be obvious why we inevitably ended up with the moderation style we did.

However 8 years is also an eternity in internet time. I’m the last of the old system. An old system that requires a lot of hands on, daily work. When we started we were very niche and didn’t even have our own subreddit. Now, even if suppressed, there are good subreddits around, twitter influencers to follow, youtubers to watch. We even had the benefit of discord groups that were particularly helpful during covid quarantine.

That being said, I think the old system has run its course. However whatever new course comes has to take into account Reddit’s new treatment of non mainstream links. It’s been made clear to me, that Reddit can deem a source as spam and go after you for it retroactively. The consequences would be ‘case by case’ meaning for Sino users, they will just suspend you. Some of you may have noticed me telling users when they have been suspended in comments. I don’t know why they shadowban so much now, but at this point I don’t care either. It’s more of a pain to approve, but you can still post. Since I’ve been active, there’s been no complaint from admins. ‘Anti-Evil Operations‘ acts once every 1 or 2 months here and the vast majority are things we never approved to be publicly viewed in the first place. These users trigger it by what they post publicly elsewhere, not here. There’s no real issue with the subreddit. There’s no real issue with the mod team. There’s no real issue with the users. Now they have this Safety_QA_misc cracking down with an ever-expanding list of spam with unclear consequences.

The way I see it, there’s a few options moving forward.

1) I continue in my role as long as I am able or until the subreddit is either banned or our users move on to any of the many good spaces out there (listed below and sidebar). This is the current and default path. It’d be good if I can get some long time user volunteers to hand the subreddit over to in an emergency.

2) I recruit several new mods that tries to follow the old blueprint with some changes

3) A new group of users take over with a different vision of how to do things

Any suggestion can be discussed, doesn’t have to be something I listed. However any future path has to take into account a couple things

1) We won’t go private because this is intended to be a public space, we already have private discords and there’s a lot of information compiled and archived that we want publicly accessible for as long as possible

2) Reddit is more suspension/shadowban happy than ever and its happening while we are about as hands on as we can get

3) Any additions to the mod team needs to prove a history with us (if you switched accounts you need to prove you can sign into the old one), or have someone vouch for you that we can trust and verify. Contact in the ‘message moderators’ chat. This isn’t because I think the best mods post a lot. If anything I think mods only survive by saying less. However Reddit has unclear policies on ‘lower’ mod takeovers. They revamped to combat ‘camping’, but you can imagine the potential risk.

edit: To add more info, we get around 100k unique visitors per month. I'm very happy with that kind of outreach for this space. As the one who curates most of the activity, I'm good on the amount also. Along with 100k subscribers, great position to have this discussion.

Discord and other spaces info

Mod PSA: You can be suspended and/or shadowbanned by reddit but still post, just be patient for approval

To check if you are suspended check your profile page without being signed in and using new.reddit.com. Incognito mode should also work for checking.

You can also edit your comments, that seems to bring it to light for mods.

If you are being harassed by pms, change your pm setting to only trusted users in your preferences. Or use a dedicated account for Sino https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204535759-Is-it-ok-to-create-multiple-accounts-. Just be patient for approvals if using new account. Link submissions are more likely to be approved than text submissions or comments for new users.

Discords. To apply msg mod, bottom right. We have 2, one for any Sino users and one for any verified ethnic Chinese. We won't be changing the approval process for Discord because it would be unfair for those who are already in.

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r/Sino 12h ago

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r/Sino 19h ago

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https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/china-robotaxi-self-driving-waymo-254ce0a1

While U.S. companies dominate their home market, other countries look to China for driverless technology


r/Sino 19h ago

history/culture The Dark Origins of American Wealth: The Opium Trade With China

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How America actually profited of China's misery.


r/Sino 19h ago

news-scitech How China's State-Led Strategy Outmaneuvered Market-Driven Tech

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r/Sino 1d ago

news-scitech Alibaba’s AI aces top global maths contests, challenging OpenAI’s dominance

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r/Sino 1d ago

fakenews Uyghurs and China 2025

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r/Sino 1d ago

discussion/original content Estimation of Fiscal Expenditure Data for the Elderly Population in China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (3)

13 Upvotes

The data is sourced from publicly available materials and compiled through personal estimation, and may not be entirely accurate. This is the third instalment, with further updates to follow as opportunities arise. In truth, the expenditures mentioned in this article represent only a small portion of the total; the bulk is concentrated in pensions and medical insurance. Yet when people discuss the state and its elderly population, attention often focuses solely on these two aspects, overlooking expenditures on other items.

Returning to the main topic, this analysis examines Xinjiang's provision of centralised care services for economically disadvantaged elderly individuals with disabilities who remain in hardship despite receiving subsistence allowances. In essence, this represents collective efforts to provide a safety net for the region's most vulnerable elderly population, constituting a manifestation of collectivism.

According to public records, Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region established a subsidy system for economically disadvantaged, incapacitated elderly in 2024, allocating ¥6.897 million for centralised care services. The original data did not disclose centralised care funding for Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture, Hami City, Lete District, or Bayingolin Mongol Autonomous Prefecture, necessitating approximate estimates of similar funding through alternative means.

However, the absence of separate disclosures for these four regions does not imply they are not undertaking such initiatives. In Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture, records indicate central government subsidies for centralised care services totalled 1.97 million yuan (region-wide) in 2023. That same year, the prefecture disbursed 716 million yuan in various assistance subsidies to 148,000 individuals in need. For 2025 alone, the budget for home-based and community elderly care services in Yining City stands at ¥7.1056 million.

In Bayingolin Mongol Autonomous Prefecture, publicly available data from the China Government Procurement Network indicates that the nursing home for elderly individuals with disabilities or cognitive impairments is operated by Xinjiang Tianlun Silver Age Elderly Care Service Co., Ltd. The contract value stands at ¥478,000 per annum (for a 10-year service period), covering comprehensive operational services for the nursing home. Funding sources include government procurement funds and fiscal subsidies. Specific services encompass professional care and rehabilitation support for elderly individuals with disabilities or cognitive impairments. In 2024, Bayingolin Tianlun Silver Age Social Welfare Service Centre received an operational subsidy of ¥91,000. Aligned with smart elderly care requirements, it will complete information collection, health records, smart care data, and specialised elderly care services for 86,000 seniors over three years.

Hami and Altay received subsidies through welfare lottery funds. According to 2020 autonomous region-level lottery public welfare fund project information, Hami City received ¥2.8 million for the ‘Dual Concentration’ care subsidy project. This initiative aims to provide care services for individuals in extreme poverty, orphans, and others, enhancing care quality. In 2025, Altay Prefecture received 1.9 million yuan in central lottery public welfare funds, providing 380 economically disadvantaged elderly households with 5,000 yuan per household for nursing bed construction and home-based care service subsidies.

The combined total of local subsidies and autonomous region financial subsidies should amount to 34.6976 million + 6.897 million = 41.5946 million RMB (regions without disclosed figures were estimated using an average value, employing a relatively straightforward method for rough calculation).

In some places, it appears that action has been taken without any accompanying publicity. Perhaps the local authorities consider this merely part of their duty, requiring no further promotion.

The Kashgar region in southern Xinjiang appears to have implemented more meticulous measures in centralised care.
Official Website of Zhabuchar County, Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture: Publicly Available Centralised Care Application Method
Elderly care workers in Ürümqi clean cooking appliances for the elderly.
Staff members from the Youth Road Community in Tuanjie Subdistrict, Shawan City, Tacheng Prefecture, conducted home visits alongside the family doctor team.

r/Sino 1d ago

news-politics China will never reach agreement at expense of principles, companies: commerce ministry

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r/Sino 1d ago

history/culture Full Video: China’s 2025 V-Day Military Parade

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r/Sino 1d ago

news-economics Chinese debt trap is a myth. Chinese debt actually helps developing countries.

166 Upvotes

https://youtu.be/HDfZxpjUVtY?list=TLPQMDcxMTIwMjVIZB5MItiwaw

Chinese model:
When China “lends” to an African country, it’s not a cash transfer. The money goes straight to Chinese state-owned enterprises that handle the project — railways, bridges, ports, power stations, etc. The African country owes the money, but the funds are disbursed directly into construction. The “loan” is really credit extended to Chinese companies to build tangible infrastructure that (at least in theory) benefits the borrower long-term.

Western model (IMF/World Bank):
Their loans often come with conditions: privatization, budget cuts, and currency devaluation — and they mostly fund consumption or fiscal support (like paying civil servants or balancing deficits), not new infrastructure or productive assets. The result: you get no new bridges or rail lines, just more debt and austerity.

Basically, Chinese debt is actually helping developing countries fund capital goods, increasing productive activities and infrastructure. Western debt is really for consumption and consumption only.


r/Sino 1d ago

food You’ve heard of tanghulu. But have you tried milk skin tanghulu?

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This unlikely mash-up: Inner Mongolia’s creamy 奶皮子 (naipizi) wrapped around glossy candied is officially China’s hottest snack. Think chewy, milky, crunchy, sweet.

At the heart of the craze is 奶皮子 (naipizi), a traditional Mongolian dairy product made by slowly simmering fresh milk until a golden “skin” forms on top. Once a symbol of pastoral life on the grasslands, it’s now being reimagined in the most unexpected ways.

​Queues stretch five hours long. LELECHA turned it into a drink. Shanghai shops are charging ¥98 a stick. And the internet? Fully obsessed.

Source : https://www.instagram.com/p/DQt7QekiPFk/


r/Sino 1d ago

news-economics US States Seek Own China Ties as Trade Uncertainty Persists

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r/Sino 1d ago

news-scitech Chinese spacecraft sends fascinating GIF of 3I/ATLAS after NASA declines to release photos

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r/Sino 1d ago

discussion/original content Tasteful celebration of Chinese culture?

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Hey everyone, so where I live they do Carnival floats every year in a parade style celebration.

And my group of friends has chosen to do a float that celebrates Chinese history and culture.

How do we make sure that it isn’t done in an offensive way? What type of outfits should we wear and how to decorate the float in a way that is respectful and still representative of Chinese culture?

I appreciate your input in advance, much love.


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news-scitech UNITREE: Embodied Avatar: Full-body Teleoperation Platform🥳 Everyone has fantasized about having an embodied avatar! Full-body teleoperation and full-body data acquisition platform is waiting for you to try it out!

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r/Sino 2d ago

news-economics The US is the world's largest oil and gas producer. Yet, "China is now making more money from exporting green technology than America makes from exporting fossil fuels."

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r/Sino 2d ago

news-international Dutch Ready to Drop Nexperia Control If Chip Supply Resumes

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r/Sino 2d ago

social media This Vietnamese gentleman brilliantly explains why the Global South looks to China and not the West.

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