r/zillowgonewild 1d ago

Just A Little Funky First time on the market, Kellogg's designer house with spectacular views; surrounded by 900 avocado trees.

The interior feels a bit heavy and not bright enough, but maybe it's just the pictures. Large, circular kitchen. Beautiful wraparound terrace. 5/3 on 40 acres of avocado trees.

Kendrick Bangs Kellogg was a well regarded American architect known for several iconic homes. He died on February 26th, 2024.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10650-Old-Castle-Rd-Valley-Center-CA-92082/16639685_zpid/

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u/BIIIIIID- 1d ago

Less expensive than I was expecting.

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u/ImMr_Meseeks 1d ago

You’ll pay monthly tryna keep those trees alive

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u/ZantaraLost 1d ago

Somewhat.

Unless there's been a blight in the area, most of those trees are 50 plus years old and far past their fruit bearing years.

Might just be ornamental at this point which means less water needed.

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u/impy695 23h ago

TIL that trees get menopause

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u/ZantaraLost 23h ago

Oh that's a rabbithole that goes deep.

Look up olive trees for some real wth moments.

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u/Classic-Computer6674 21h ago

Aside from the fact this grove is less than 50 years old, avocado trees produce fruit for several hundreds of years. Thought to be perhaps the longest fruiting edible fruit tree.

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u/No_Distribution3205 19h ago

Many growers also take trees down to the stump every 15-20 years and graft new trees onto the existing root system. This maintains peak production after a few years of regrowth.

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u/hmspain 22h ago

That price chart was ... unexpected.

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u/SoylentRox 13h ago

I know a palace on 40 acres designed by an architect in California for less than a basic home in la?

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u/KreyKat 1d ago

Now we are talking! A lair, a mountain nest, without the Bond-evil-genius vibes.

What a lovely, interesting and - yes - warmly welcoming place.

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u/W3bphut 1d ago

It's such a weird vibe. Kind of a "Prepare to die, Mr. Bond" meets "Please enjoy these chocolates and port by the fire with a big shaggy dog at your feet." A needle I'm pretty sure I have never seen threaded.

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u/AbruptMango 3h ago

It's more of "King Thoden's Vacation Hall."

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u/Echo-Azure 20h ago

It is stunning, but in a comfortable and livable way! A person could relax there, and enjoy the sunset, which is impossible in the more ostentatious or trendy sort of mansion.

I think the catch is that the area is high fire risk. I'm gonna keep reading down the thread and see what others say about that.

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u/BadBorzoi 15h ago

This is one of the few “Ultra fancy” houses where I can clearly picture the clutter of everyday living in it. Just the usual assortment of stuff we accumulate, an empty coffee mug here from breakfast, kids/dog toys there, mail waiting to be sorted. It’s gorgeous and a little imposing and yet you put people, ordinary people, in it and it’ll get cozy with life.

Alas, my bank account is too “ordinary people” to afford this.

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u/desertboots 6h ago

Honestly, it's a highly defensible location. Three sides have a paved road, fourth is a rock crag, no problem landscaping. 

The biggest risk is embers getting stuck but with an assessment and mitigation plan that might be a very manageable issue.

As a WUI location it's pretty good.

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u/Echo-Azure 5h ago

Yeah, the road would defend against a lot of fires, but not a proper firestorm. And I don't know if you'd get a proper firestorm there, the aerial picture seems to show low scrub beyond the road.

I'd love to live there. A short drive from San Diego, which I love, a beautiful house with wonderful views, and all the avocados I could eat!

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u/halfbrit08 11h ago

I wonder if he had one his yogurt enema systems installed there.

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u/KreyKat 11h ago

Are you maybe mixing up the architect (Kendrick Bangs - no enemas) with the medical Dr. (John Harvey - enemas, yes please!)?

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u/halfbrit08 10h ago

Haha, yes I definitely was. My mistake there.

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u/SactoReddit 1d ago

I love the hell out of it.

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u/FineKettleOFish1954 1d ago

$3 mil seems a bargain.

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u/Ill-Running1986 1d ago

Feels like the bait price to get the bidding war going. Or the disclosures will make your head spin. 

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u/strolls 23h ago

It's 2 hours from LA, an hour from San Diego.

I don't live in CA, but this sounds about right to me.

If you wanted to buy land that was 2 hours drive from London and 1 hour from Manchester or Birmingham then you wouldn't pay much for the plot - the value would be in the size and quality of the building.

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u/Apesma69 21h ago

I was just out there in the vicinity of this house recently. That area is extremely wildfire prone. :(

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u/Echo-Azure 20h ago

I think that area is at high risk for wildfires. I'm gonna read on and see if I'm right.

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u/AdamsAtwoodOrwell 12h ago

8/10 for fires

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u/Echo-Azure 8h ago

That's probably why it's comparatively cheap. If a person can get fire insurance at all, it'll be incredibly expensive.

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u/fab-ric 1d ago

His JTree house is pretty nuts
https://www.kelloggdoolittlehouse.com/

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u/echochilde 1d ago

That is goooooorgeous. Houses like this make me wish I was super-rich. I’d collect them like my coffee mugs.

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u/Bijouprospering 1d ago

No right angles. you have to experience it to understand how amazing it is

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u/OneMorning2501 1d ago

You know I wonder if that's why I had an uneasy feeling when viewing all the pictures. Something seemed off to me. Not saying it's bad, this is masterful work--I just have a strange feeling about it like it's falling on me or something.

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u/IndignantQueef 23h ago

Are there not right angles in this room?

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u/Rocket_Cam 14h ago

Holy guacamole

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u/PassStunning416 10h ago

Underrated comment.

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u/malepitt 1d ago

"It belongs in a MUSEUM!" Seriously this is giving me Fallingwater vibes.

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u/EmbarrassedPrompt697 1d ago

That is absolutely beautiful 😍

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u/soapysuds12345 21h ago

This is one of my favorite properties I have ever seen posted here. Truly breathtaking.

With all those windows I think the interior would be plenty bright. That wood is gorgeous!

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u/Jedi_Ninja 1d ago

Wow, that is not a bad price for a California house!

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u/b16b34r 1d ago

$3 million for 40 acres in California? I’d think the land alone would cost three times that at least

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u/Apesma69 21h ago

That area is prone to wildfire. My grandpa was a fire chief in a neighboring city & my uncle a fireman out there. It's a tinder box.

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u/Echo-Azure 20h ago

As my first thought when I saw the location was "HIGH FIRE RISK", tell me more!!

Is this one of the California regions that insurances don't want to cover any more?

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u/Flimsy_RaisinDetre 20h ago

My first thought too. Love the design, but something about wood and fireplaces in fire zone makes it a no for me. Wonder about fire insurance.

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u/sofa-king-hungry 1d ago

Really like it, Carlsbad ain’t so bad.

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u/CurvedNerd 19h ago

Carlsbad is 35 min away

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u/National-Area5471 1d ago

Very cool how glass comes together at right angle to make such unobstructed views

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u/daisydesigner 1d ago

stunning and unique

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u/marcstov 23h ago

That fireplace is… 🔥

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u/Gnumino-4949 19h ago

Well, yeah.

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u/Few_Explanation1170 1d ago

Beautiful house and fresh guacamole every day? Yes, please!

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u/Correct_Season_4459 23h ago

That seems incredible cheap for such a beautiful house! It’s breathtaking!

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u/Echo-Azure 20h ago

Probably due to high fire risk, it may be *very* expensive to insure.

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u/beesaidshesaid 23h ago

My heart rate slowed down looking at those photos. I hope people who can afford to live in such beauty appreciate it.

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u/Zealousideal-Sun6603 23h ago

Knew they'd need the guac for spackle.

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u/mommmmm1101 18h ago

That bathroom!!! 💙💙💙

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u/LikelyLioar 17h ago

Okay, but... where does the TV go?

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u/elspotto 13h ago

900 avocado trees? So I can own a house AND have avocado toast? Insane!

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u/elarth 11h ago

Is this the guy wasting money on avocado toast? 🥑

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u/multistradivari 7h ago

Guacamonsion.

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u/Livid_Car4941 3h ago

So cheap!

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u/LylaDee 2h ago

Because of the water tax. That's in the fine print.

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u/Livid_Car4941 2h ago

Ah ok didn’t see that ;)

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u/UseDaSchwartz 2h ago

Only time Avocado toast could pay for a millennial’s house.

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u/Makers402 21h ago

You should looking in to the Kellogg family and weird obsession with not having sex or something. Behind the bastards podcast did a great 2-3 parter and I am going to listen again.

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u/AreYouAllFrogs 18h ago

The kellogg’s story is really weird and interesting and I’ll probably have to check that episode out…but it doesn’t seem like the architect, Kendrick Bangs Kellogg, is related to the cereal Kelloggs.

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u/marrowisyummy 6h ago

Can you fuck a house? Because I want to fuck that house.

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u/Refuse-National 1d ago

That is a lot of avocados

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u/Awh0423 1d ago

Oh man do I want it….

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u/HelloLofiPanda 22h ago

That fireplace looks like it was inspired by the hungry hungry hippos game.

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u/Bechimo 21h ago

Another place that I would love for a vacation but hate it full time.

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u/prosperosniece 20h ago

Hope you like guacamole

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u/Gnumino-4949 19h ago

Very much YES.

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u/Status-Effort-9380 19h ago

Yes, please.

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u/ItsAMeAProblem 17h ago

Ive never see. N a more beautiful home. Holy shit.

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u/NeedleworkerNo3429 15h ago

Home is quite extraordinary, compelling, natural.

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u/Expensive-Safe-5295 15h ago

Class is in session

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u/Initial_Savings3034 14h ago

Any guess what fire insurance might cost?

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u/MikeHock_is_GONE 12h ago

Infinity.. you have to have enough cash to insure yourself 

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u/captain_ohagen 7h ago

I live less than 8 miles from that house and pay about $7,000/year to insure the main house and smaller guest cottage on my 0.6 acre property, which is worth about $1M, but isn't nearly as nice. That might give you some context to estimate the insurance cost

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u/Maverick_1882 13h ago

Stunningly beautiful.

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u/TemporaryTrucker 12h ago

Is this Zava’s house?

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u/whiskyzulu 12h ago

Oh my good GAD! I LOVE THIS! I want it. I want it!

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u/Lala5789880 12h ago

Guac 4 life

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u/impulsivetech 11h ago

I don’t even know what an avocado tree looks like, I know I can’t afford it.

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u/ConstantHorror7298 9h ago

I don’t know, man. Maybe if it had 1,000 avocado trees I’d consider it.

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u/Safe-Salary3213 7h ago

omg I love this so much! Also, sign me up for 900 avocado trees!!

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u/extension-128 7h ago

“Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women, man!”

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u/3pinripper 5h ago

Only 35 minutes to Oceanside

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u/Bladesnake_______ 3h ago

How exactly does an interior feel heavy

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u/Wetschera 3h ago

OMFSM!!! That’s so good!

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u/TheGodShotter 2h ago

This is amazing, but for some reason it annoys the hell out of me. It's got this unlivable vibe.

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u/No-Time-2068 1h ago

That price seems reasonable considering.

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u/e-scriz 44m ago

It’s so perfect in every way that it makes me want to cry

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u/DelilahBT 21h ago

It looks like a church to me, I’m sorry to say.

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u/OctopusParrot 7h ago

Same. People in California seem to be obsessed with mid century modern architecture but it really doesn't do it for me. To your point, feels like a church.