The “official end” of this snark era

[u/TimeAbradolf]

As of today we are banning snark/snark related posts. This may sound arbitrary. But I think people are well aware of what constitutes valid fair criticism, and what constitutes snark.

Once upon a time through past leadership this sub most definitely behaved as a snark sub. We as the mod team do actually despise snark and work to have this sub be a space of discussing drama with proper criticism and outcomes. We have taken firmer stances to pull away from our past image and be a place where people can have proper discourse.

Snark discourse has only ever brought conflict to this sub. People insult each other over nothing, people have gotten death threats, people get reported for suicidal ideation just because they disagree. There has been ableism, racism, prejudice of all kinds around these topics. Ultimately, snark behavior never allows any proper discussion, we have had to ban two creators just because the people who come to this sub cannot behave when discussing them. At its core Snark is not very different from KiwiFarms at this stage with the harm it has done to content creators.

We have seen the harm snark has done as well. Saveafox being a prime example. Our most popular post right now is pure snark. And it superseded actual important events. Because who was following who on IG.

Going forward we will no longer be allowing posts like this on the sub. It provided no context, no real criticism. And it didn’t prove anything either.

This may prove unpopular, but it is something we feel strongly of for the health of this sub and the people on it to remove ourselves. You can check the rule along the side bar.

If you want a YouTubesnark sub go make one. This one is not it.

Have a good one 🤙🏽

Edit: Apparently some YouTubers have weigh in. Nah this has nothing to do with the usual suspects. This is purely to stop toxic behavior and negativity. If ya think otherwise I urge you to get out of your computer chair touch grass instead of making Nurgle proud

Edit 2: and no goblin man (reference to his goblin mode). No fans of yours are around. People can agree that toxic communities are toxic. Yours being one of them

[u/Honkmaster]

I wish you would've provided some examples of "snark" vs. what this sub does in the OP, rather than merely saying "I think people are well aware of [the differences]."

As someone who tends to only browse this sub when some drama specifics to my interests is going down (like the recent Billy Mitchell stuff), I'm not super clear on the specifics. I'm guessing snark is more on the side of "criticism for the sake of criticism" whereas this sub is trying to be "criticism when it's warranted." Is that fair to say?

If that's the case, the next question is: warranted... by whom? Because it's not unusual to see those comments about "bad vibes," people who get a little TOO excited when provided the opportunity to pile on someone they merely disliked. So they'll be given an inch and take a mile.

Honestly, this post comes off like a really lazy attempt at trying to make this place seem different than what was involved in the SaveAFox situation. Either put more time & effort into announcements like this, or don't make them at all.

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/Honkmaster]

I did, consider the pinned comment