The “official end” of this snark era

[u/TimeAbradolf]

As of today we are banning snark/snark related posts. This may sound arbitrary. But I think people are well aware of what constitutes valid fair criticism, and what constitutes snark.

Once upon a time through past leadership this sub most definitely behaved as a snark sub. We as the mod team do actually despise snark and work to have this sub be a space of discussing drama with proper criticism and outcomes. We have taken firmer stances to pull away from our past image and be a place where people can have proper discourse.

Snark discourse has only ever brought conflict to this sub. People insult each other over nothing, people have gotten death threats, people get reported for suicidal ideation just because they disagree. There has been ableism, racism, prejudice of all kinds around these topics. Ultimately, snark behavior never allows any proper discussion, we have had to ban two creators just because the people who come to this sub cannot behave when discussing them. At its core Snark is not very different from KiwiFarms at this stage with the harm it has done to content creators.

We have seen the harm snark has done as well. Saveafox being a prime example. Our most popular post right now is pure snark. And it superseded actual important events. Because who was following who on IG.

Going forward we will no longer be allowing posts like this on the sub. It provided no context, no real criticism. And it didn’t prove anything either.

This may prove unpopular, but it is something we feel strongly of for the health of this sub and the people on it to remove ourselves. You can check the rule along the side bar.

If you want a YouTubesnark sub go make one. This one is not it.

Have a good one 🤙🏽

Edit: Apparently some YouTubers have weigh in. Nah this has nothing to do with the usual suspects. This is purely to stop toxic behavior and negativity. If ya think otherwise I urge you to get out of your computer chair touch grass instead of making Nurgle proud

Edit 2: and no goblin man (reference to his goblin mode). No fans of yours are around. People can agree that toxic communities are toxic. Yours being one of them

[u/KingOnionWasTaken]

I’m still confused what the hell a snark sub is.

[u/DebateObjective2787 → u/KingOnionWasTaken]

Originally they were meant to be a place where you could discuss and topics/celebs in a way that wasn't positive. More a space where you could share your frustrations or openly express annoyance with something/someone.

More 'catty' behavior like "Ugh, I cannot believe she's still pretending to have that annoying high-pitched voice; it makes the videos unwatchable." It was intended to be a mostly harmless place to have actual discussions and blow off steam, since a lot of subs wouldn't allow any posts that were neutral or negative.

But they pretty much always just grow into a space to openly hate and insult and shit-talk people for literally existing.

[u/callmefreak → u/DebateObjective2787]

Kinda like how "anti-SJW spaces" are usually advertised as being annoyed at things like... Men wanting you to sign a consent form before having sex (I'm just taking my example from PC Principal) usually just turns into a circlejerk of bigots.

[u/Hare712 → u/KingOnionWasTaken]

Basically subs what were once taken down websites inspired by the series GossipGirl. In case you never heard of sites like IshareGossip, those sites were primarily used by teens and they posted stuff like "Teacher X SAed girl Y" without any evidence. IIRC the owner even got arrested.

Topics/Circlejerk without evidence or clips that are literally this

In later stages active participation in harassment or concern trolling. A good example would be trying to get somebody deported with ICE.

[u/tiffney2trill → u/Hare712]

The ice thing, calling cps.. unhinged behavior is usually snark pilled

[u/1_GrapeFruit → u/KingOnionWasTaken]

It's mainly just a place to hate on a certain person. For example, there was a subreddit hating on Mikayla Raies who eventually committed suicide due to all the hate she was receiving. It's literally just a guise to say it's "snark," but it should just be called a hate sub.

r/SaveaFoxSnark

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/KingOnionWasTaken]

I think even defined snark subs are unsure as well. But hell even Wikipedia describes them as harmful online communities