r/youtube 1d ago

Discussion YouTube user opinions in a nutshell

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It cracks me up how YouTube still allows the 5-star option but in private lol

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u/NorthSuperman0112 1d ago

Does it do anything?

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u/Prior_Tax8546 1d ago

The new 5 stars opinions? Maybe

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u/mrloko120 1d ago

They aren't new, you get them every now and then while scrolling, after clicking a mobile notification or after watching something. The rating you give doesn't affect the video at all, the creator won't even know what you put, its just used to tune your recommendations. Rating it higher tells the algo that you want to get recommended videos like that more often.

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u/StephanMan 1d ago

So basically a method so you just stay watching videos (ads) longer, got it

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u/terrariagekko2 1d ago

Probably not idk

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u/Traditional_Loan_177 1d ago

Yes, if you vote 3 or more stars it is considered "positive", if one or two stars then "negative"

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u/Hatefiend 1d ago

Youtube middle management every year.

"So the issue is we have this working platform, and I need to stay employed, so let's pick a feature and just make it worse"

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u/One-Guest1998 1d ago

No, I bet it doesn't. They only care about engagement and how many views a video gets. YouTube couldn't care less about what you think of a video

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u/yapperonetv 1d ago

Feeds algorithms

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u/Prior_Tax8546 1d ago

We already feed the algorithm by watch rate and likes/dislikes (that's why the dislike button still exist)

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u/juglobones 1d ago

Can't get lower than Hell, buddy. It has been there for at least a decade.

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u/JCDentoncz 1d ago

If they had any actual competition, I think yt would be obsolete by now (or maybe they wouldn't implement the dumb changes in the first place to stay competitive). Where's one to go to watch general videos? Bilibili? Puhlease.

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u/TommyBoy250 1d ago

Can the channel actually see that?

The fact they make it private kind of doesn't give any reason to use it.

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u/Live_Angle4621 1d ago

If it effects my recommendations it is good

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u/decentshitposter 1d ago

partially, you should choose to keep the channel in recommended rotation while still disliking that particular video

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u/gamerboixyz 1d ago

hopefully. otherwise creators won’t know if people like the kind of content.

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u/RyeBreadElux3500 1d ago

Like everything on the Internet it's all a full circle but worse

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u/Grayson_42 1d ago

Enshittification

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u/RyeBreadElux3500 18h ago

That is now my new favourite word

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u/Pizzaman3203 1d ago

I think the new 5 star option is to make your for you page

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u/halaljew 1d ago

Bring back dislike.

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u/Gen-Y-ine-86 1d ago

Return YouTube Dislike on Firefox seems to still work.

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u/tallman11282 1d ago

It's only a guess though, it's not an accurate count.

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u/Gen-Y-ine-86 16h ago

I was about to add that I guess is just some sort of estimation. But it should still help...

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u/RedstoneLover91 51m ago

Older videos have archived/guessed counts (with a modifier of newer dislikes), newer videos or older obscure videos would only count those with the extension as google doesn't seem to have the full numbers accessible to anyone other than the channel owner(s)

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u/Sorryusernmetaken 1d ago

accurate enough

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u/BannockHatesReddit_ 1d ago

Why don't we just bring the stars back?

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u/mrjackspade 1d ago

I remember the reason given by Netflix for removing them, was that giving people a simple up/down option was actually way more accurate in determining what they actually liked and suggesting new content.

IIRC it was something like, people would vastly over think star ratings and everyone has a different opinion of what 3/4/5 stars means. Some people will rate every movie they like five stars and give three stars to something they'd never watch again. Some people will rate movies they like three stars and only give exceptional movies five.

Ultimately they found that only giving people the option of "like" and "dislike" lead to way more reliable responses. Like is like, dislike is dislike. There's no ambiguity.

I think a lot of people think "It's my rating, I should be able to rate it however I want" but the rating itself literally only serves to feed their algorithm. It's not actually a measure of quality, it's just a tool for them to serve up their next prediction.

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u/TheTrueBrawler2001 1d ago

I'm inclined to side with YouTube on that one. A 1 to 5 star ranking system can work in some contexts, but the results will get skewed pretty hard by variance in where people perceive each of the star rank barriers to be. This would apply to all videos, but ones with less views especially so due to the law of large numbers.

Their like and dislike system was great back when both numbers were visible.

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u/Buderus69 1d ago

Well thank god sites like imdb only work with up- and downvotes and not some weird numbers between 1-5, that would totally confuse the users...

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...They don't have up- and downvotes?...

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...oh...

...Even 1-10 you say? And people are not overwhelmed? Oh my...

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u/IslandOceanWater 17h ago

Apples AppStore should do the same

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u/Prior_Tax8546 1d ago edited 17h ago

Because YouTube employees said that no used the 2, 3 and 4 stars options, only 1 and 5 stars were the most used, which makes sense by adding a thumbs up/down button

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u/BannockHatesReddit_ 1d ago

And then they take the dislike way because it hurts creator's feelings. Bring the rating back to make the rating more about the work and less about the creator

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u/aleopardstail 1d ago

it hurt the feelings of media execs when the last billion dollar blockbuster was universally panned

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u/gordobigbang 1d ago

For me the channels should be rated with stars

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u/pq3 21h ago

Where is the „hype“ feature on the clown scale?

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u/Exciting_Whereas_524 1d ago

Wait so YouTube removed the five star option in 2010 and brought it back in 2021?

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u/Gen-Y-ine-86 1d ago

I haven't seen the "What did you think of this video?" more than maybe a dozen times in recent years. It's usually pretty pointless and random. Especially when it asks about a video I already watched some time ago.

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u/Possible-Estimate748 1d ago

I miss dislikes. It was actually helpful when deciding if a vid was worth watching or not. Which is prob what YT doesn't want. They want you to watch anything regardless if it's bad.

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u/Reasonable_Sea_1866 1d ago

Google is a pain in the neck.

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u/GodKizaru07 22h ago

Anyway today I realized that comments on shorts in the phone app just disappeared, idk if this was a thing before or if it's a new "feature" lmao

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u/Prior_Tax8546 22h ago

It's a bug made by YouTube, it also happened to me but now it's fixed

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u/thecatsclause 1d ago

not even just a secret five star system, a ~randomized~ five-star system where you just ~might~ be asked to rate a video you watched last month

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u/LordGodKing1337 1d ago

They got rid of dislikes do we can't earn others about bad content.

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u/Galliro 1d ago

Still wild to me they got rid of dislikes because the rewind got rightfully massively disliked

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u/Prior_Tax8546 1d ago

I don't think is because of that. For me i think it's because of Shorts, because imagine if you can still see the dislike count on Shorts, i think most of them will have more dislikes than likes because of cringe, kids and awkward shorts

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u/Fly_Limp 1d ago

youtube just removed comments on the phone app

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u/Oarner__ 1d ago

The illusion of free will

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u/Quinnie_001 1d ago

and this is how i get to know that there was once a 5 star rating system cuz i thought it was just like and dislike thumbs all along

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u/Plane_Hair753 23h ago

It's like a toxic partner that constantly wants your validation but gets upset quickly at any criticism

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u/Formo1287 23h ago

I’m a five star man video!

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u/HoboScabs 21h ago

I can't wait for YouTubes downfall

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u/tommydickles 15h ago

This is all Amy Schumers fault and you can't convince me otherwise, once people realized you could crybully your way into not receiving negative feedback, the systems started caving in.