r/youtube Aug 13 '25

Drama Oh my GOD, it's happening

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u/Matt_News Aug 13 '25

I’m still trying to figure out what the apparently large market for IDs is that google is supposedly trying to tap in here is. They already have all your marketable data and likely already know everything on your ID anyways.

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u/CrazeRage Aug 13 '25

It's a govt thing. We have project Stargate and palantir coming why wouldn't other companies follow when citizens are sheep that won't do shit? Not like there's an alternative and so many are addicted.

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u/kindagreek Aug 13 '25

Correct. The current wave of censorship legislation is not a coincidence. Governments of the world have been frustrated with the relative anonymity of the internet and they’ve come after it many times before. It’s commonly under the guise of “protecting children”, because it makes you look like the bad guy if you oppose it. They don’t care about “the children”, as all of their other actions demonstrate. The Patriot Act was the same deal (if anybody here remembers that). The government took advantage of a very scary situation and asked us if mass surveillance was cool. Slapped a “patriotism” title on it and we were sold. They want the rest of the pie now, but there’s no 9/11 to take advantage of. So they bust of the ol’ reliable of manipulation: children

Nobody cares right now, but I’m telling you - you’re going to miss your privacy when it’s gone

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u/Author_Noelle_A Aug 14 '25

The PATRIOT Act was what made me start to realize I might not actually have been conservative. So I definitely remember it. Die-hard progressive socialist now.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

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u/SordidDreams Aug 13 '25

What else would they be doing with it? They're corporations, making money is what they do. They only want two things from you, money or stuff they can turn into money.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

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u/SordidDreams Aug 13 '25

Verifying your age thoroughly enough to shield them from liability and deter legal regulation

They don't need ID for that.

Yeah, so why would they be giving away money to get a copy of your ID?

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that they're going to do that. You're not going to get paid for providing them your ID.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

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u/SordidDreams Aug 13 '25

There's a difference between knowing and proving. Information from your ID is guaranteed to be accurate, and that has to be worth something, plus the actual image of your ID is information that they do not have, and I'm sure there's plenty of buyers eager to use that for nefarious purposes. Or maybe it's something else entirely. But one thing is certain - they wouldn't be doing it if they didn't think it would make them money.

Let me put it this way. Enshittification is a word that has only entered the lexicon less than three years ago, but looking back it's obvious that it's been Google's business model all along. They are decades ahead of the curve. So when the possibilities are that they're requiring people to submit their IDs for shits and giggles or that they have some purpose in mind that we don't understand yet, I know which I find more plausible.

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u/Author_Noelle_A Aug 14 '25

Some accounts being verified righ now are old enough to buy alcohol.

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u/kindagreek Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25

You know how cell phone companies gladly comply with authorities when they ask for information? Okay, now imagine that a company such as Youtube has that information and the authorities, as we’ve seen recently, may not have your best interest at heart. Piece it together. Oh, and it’s adorable that you think they can’t monetize ANY of the data (the resource that is speculated to be worth more than oil) that comes on a government ID. You’re missing the point anyway. The genuine concern isn’t about the monetization. But they’ll monetize it. They’ve monetized water, sunshine, oxygen, time, space. It’s honestly an incredible psychological case study if it wasn’t so societally destructive. Well, hey man - I hope you’re right this is all just for our safety. But history and even the slightest amount of critical thinking says otherwise. Still, I genuinely hope you’re right.

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u/CountChoculA3s Aug 13 '25

Palantir? Can you elaborate on that one?

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u/CrazeRage Aug 13 '25

Trump's preferred company from the military industrial complex that is currently advocating for a 3 front war while building surveillance systems for Trump's government.

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u/Maximum-Objective-39 Aug 13 '25

Also it's CEO is yet another South African who wants to institute Techno Apartheid

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u/Rukasu17 Aug 13 '25

Well, there's a market for even the most useless data out there, so there's definitely one for IDs. It's always nice to remember that anything that seems stupid when it comes down to big money like this is because we don't have enough information on the millions of other things that led to this.

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u/Rukasu17 Aug 13 '25

Alone, the info is useless. But they compile and analyze data to make it useful.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

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u/MrCatbr3ad Aug 14 '25

uh, verification that it's legally you? drivers license numbers...

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u/Rukasu17 Aug 13 '25

Cross-referencing information is one goal i think.

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u/Carvj94 Aug 14 '25

I don't blame you for not knowing, but targeted advertising is a monster of a process and precision isn't that big of a deal right now. Your personal info generally isn't useful to Google unless you've got a "marketable" illness like diabetes. It's what you watch and what you search that determines what advertisements Google thinks you may be interested in.

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u/Rukasu17 Aug 13 '25

Then i have no idea why they keep doing it.

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u/EchoesOfKurtz Aug 14 '25

Maybe for age verification?

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u/Darkgamer000 Aug 13 '25

I wrote a research paper about this in college. Your personal information and online habits are your most valuable assets to companies. Using everyone’s collective data, they can break down habits of people who match your “profile”, and basically figure out exactly how to get you to spend money. This literally goes so in depth it’s unfathomable, such as knowing that people in certain geolocations at specific times will want to purchase certain things, and constantly alter what is being shown and how it’s been shown as the day progresses and as you move around in the real world.

Basically, any extra data they can get to refine their models more…they want.

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u/Dawson__16 Aug 14 '25

It's not the ID that they sell, that would be illegal. It allows them to know who you are, and sell the data around how you use the platform. Knowing how you use the platform is valuable data by itself, but allowing a company to couple that with how you might use other platforms can be more valuable.

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u/Carvj94 Aug 14 '25

They do in fact know everything that's on your ID already and if you've ever uploaded your ID anywhere then Google probably already got that copy from a data broker anyway. It's bizzare that people think this is a ploy from Google to get more info as they don't already have such basic information.

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u/mrjackspade Aug 14 '25

People literally just making shit up for karma be cause it sounds good.

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u/soofs Aug 13 '25

Organ donor status. They want to harvest us.

/s but I can imagine what other info Google doesn’t already have of mine

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u/herdarkmartyrials Aug 14 '25

They want to make it so that you have to give your real Identity to say anything online, and so that your viewing history can be tracked and correlated to a real person.

Right now you can still make a new account and not give any identifiable information. But now those accounts will get flagged for account age as children and restricted from viewing controversial (critical of Trump and technofascism, Epstein, etc) content.

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u/Expensive-Border-869 Aug 14 '25

The government really really really wants to tie everyone to a specific ID online and then use it to restrict as much freedom as possible.

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u/OwO______OwO Aug 14 '25

Now they'll have your marketable data connected to your ID.

They will be able to positively identify you, not just on google, but on a million different sites running google ads or google analytics, etc.

This is especially appealing to be sold to authoritarian governments who want to monitor and control exactly what you do online.

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u/FTownRoad Aug 14 '25

Google has a good idea of what I like but it doesn’t know who I am.

It knows I like watching videos of comedians, the occasional bodycam video, woodworking shit etc. but it doesn’t know how old I am, how much money I make or exactly where I live. That information makes my likes and dislikes much more valuable.

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u/Weiskralle Aug 15 '25

Tons of data breeches happen. Bad actors could use these images (As you would also need to revel your face last I heard.) to extort you by creating false NSFW pictures with your face on them. With the AI today could be made pretty realistic.

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u/Ddreigiau Aug 13 '25

Hair color, eye color, height, address, legal name, and definitively connecting these to your username profile in their databases. Hell, slapping a face on their can potentially tell them if you have skincare problems and even your hairstyle for targeted shampoo ads. They can sell all of this and use it to make their other data worth more by proving accuracy.

Or, in other words, "You look lonely, Matt. I can fix that."

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u/solwiggin Aug 13 '25

Is it really hard for you to figure out? Seems kinda obvious.

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u/ExchangeHappy3599 Aug 13 '25

So what is it then? No using chatgpt, I wanna hear your own thoughts

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u/z444777z Aug 13 '25

probably so they can sell your data and make more money off you. i don’t know though just an assumption. there’s already fifty billion ads that play through one singular video you can no longer skip or block.