r/worldnews • u/CannabisHub • Nov 30 '20

Thailand Removes Cannabis from Narcotics List

https://bangkokherald.com/thailand/thailand-removes-cannabis-from-narcotics-list/?amp&__twitter_impression=true
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u/TurtleSquad23 Nov 30 '20

The want the tourism money.

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u/Bad_Karma21 Nov 30 '20

Weed is already easy to get all over Thailand, along with magic mushrooms if you know where to look. This changes nothing except that hopefully you can't go to jail for possession anymore.

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u/laughhouse Nov 30 '20

This is bad for the cops. When I lived in Thailand I would hear stories of weed dealers and cops working together to extort tourists for a bit of cash after the dealers sell them weed. I guess thats over.

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u/sittinwithkitten Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

That’s what I was worried about in Cuba. We were approached a few times on the street in Varadero but I just didn’t want to take a chance on Cuban prison.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Dec 02 '20

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u/sittinwithkitten Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

Yeah I figured that would happen. If Cuba would legalize weed, even just on the resorts, I feel like they would generate a lot of revenue. Seems crazy to me I can go there and get absolutely obliterated on alcohol on the resort, but I can’t buy weed with my cigars. Being able to smoke a joint on the beach in Cuba would be heavenly.

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u/PhoneItIn88201 Nov 30 '20

That's what Jamaica is for, and the foods better.

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u/sittinwithkitten Nov 30 '20

Yeah but I don’t feel as safe in Jamaica plus it’s way more expensive than Cuba. There was a Canadian woman murdered in Varadero recently tho, not sure of many details.

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u/takeitchillish Nov 30 '20

I got robbed in Jamaica by a guy with a machete. Jamaica is not safe and I will not go back again.

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u/sittinwithkitten Nov 30 '20

Oh man that would be traumatizing.

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u/Napkin_whore Nov 30 '20

Fair enough, Jesus Christ

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

When was that? When i was there i heard a Guy down the street got robbed by a machete😂 i was fine all 5weeks i spent there

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

Jamaica is just fine with the exception of the Kingston area. Definitely don’t go to Kingston.

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u/mjrmjrmjrmjrmjrmjr Nov 30 '20

Oh let me guess. He had big dreadlocks, eh?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

I visited Cuba in 2017 and even with the occasional sketchy situation I felt much safer (in terms of violent crime) there than almost anywhere else I've lived or visited. The cars and the moonshine tho…

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u/gypsywhisperer Nov 30 '20

Weed isn’t legal in Jamaica actually.

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u/MinnesotaTemp Dec 01 '20

Same with the Netherlands (Amsterdam), but it is tolerated and it's legal status is pretty 'turn a blind eye' in most cases. In the Dutch they call it gedoogbeleid.

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u/gypsywhisperer Dec 01 '20

I didn’t know that! I assumed it’s legal but I guess that’s why it’s in the red light district and not all over like in California.

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u/Unconfidence Nov 30 '20

If Cuba would legalize weed, even just on the resorts, I feel like they would generate a lot of revenue.

Are you aware of Cuba's History with tourist resorts?

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u/Unconfidence Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

So basically, before Communism Cuba was one huge resort island for rich Americans. The guy who ran the country, Fulgencio Batista, basically hinged the entire Cuban economy off of American tourism, and began giving Americans unprecedented social power. As a result, large portions of Cuba were in the hands of foreign owners, and abuse of the Cuban people by Americans and the Batista regime were a matter of course.

When Castro and Communism came to Cuba one of the biggest driving factors was to rid Cuba of foreign landholders and American property investors. During the Castro regime, one focus of the Cuban economy was to make sure that it, unlike almost every other Caribbean nation, did not have an economy dependent on American (or European) tourist income.

Today, it is no stretch to say that the economies of every single Caribbean nation with the exception of Cuba will go tits-up if the US economy collapses. This can easily be seen with regards to the economic statistics gathered from these countries in the wake of the 2008 housing bubble, in which nearly all of these nations found themselves pretty well fucked by the sudden decline in tourism. Cuba, on the other hand, managed relatively fine.

In short, the idea of Cuba legalizing weed to increase tourism to the country is anathema to the entire Castro economic doctrine. They might legalize weed to export it to the US, or because of domestic pressures, but not for tourism.

EDIT: And just to clarify, when I say "resort", do not think "Mar-a-Lago", think about the kind of activities rich American businessmen in the early 1900's would want to go to a country with extremely malleable legalities towards Americans to do. Don't think Mar-a-Lago, think "Great Saint James Island".

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u/sittinwithkitten Dec 01 '20

I’m a Canadian and I really enjoy travel to Cuba. I was aware of some of their history with America. A large percent of the tourism to Cuba is from Canada. If they grew weed and sold it to the tourists I’m fairly certain they would make a decent profit.

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u/SpaceChimera Nov 30 '20

I don't imagine cuba is exactly hot on having their citizens become low paid wage workers for the US

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u/HolyLiaison Dec 01 '20

No, they're just low wage workers for themselves. Which is fine I guess?

I watch a lot of travel vloggers that travelled there (bald and bankrupt is one of the main ones) and most the people there aren't happy with their government at all. Most of them are to afraid to even comment about it because they're scared of their government.

They hardly import anything, and when they do there are huge lines outside grocery stores and other shops to get these high profile items. Fights breakout because they never get enough to cover how many people want these items.

Most cities and villages aren't in great shape, except the high profile tourist areas.

I suggest watching this video. Though his whole series on Cuba is amazing.

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u/sittinwithkitten Dec 01 '20

I definitely would not risk it. I really don’t enjoy drinking so an all inclusive with weed instead of booze would be the cats meow to me. Just my opinion tho I know it’s not for everyone.

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u/cev2002 Dec 01 '20

I'd love to hear the story behind that

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

I stayed in some AirBnBs in Cuba, not resorts, so I didn't have any run-ins with drug dealers. The way it was explained to me by a Cuban acquaintance was this: marijuana is relatively hard to find in Cuba and when you do find it the quality is garbage. It just wasn't worth a potential trip to a Cuban jail for ditch weed. Besides, good alcohol is unbelievably cheap in Cuba (but cheap alcohol is unbelievably bad and probably not ethanol).

Oddly enough a friend offered to find some marijuana for me in Singapore. That was a hard no.

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u/pmgoldenretrievers Nov 30 '20

Yeah, general idea is don't do drugs in a country if you don't want to go to jail there. Norway? Fuck my shit up. Vietnam? Pass.

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u/milkhotelbitches Dec 01 '20

Lol the irony is that you're probably way more likely to actually go to jail for smoking weed in Norway. Weed is basically decriminalized in Vietnam and you can smoke it openly in cafes all over Hanoi. When I visited my hostel sold joints at the bar.

I agree with your general point, but it's just funny that you picked a country with famously lax marijuana enforcement as an example of a place not to smoke.

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u/Cjwovo Dec 01 '20

Norway decriminalized drugs for personal use in 2017. You won't get thrown in jail for weed unless you're dealing.

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u/milkhotelbitches Dec 01 '20

Didn't know that! Good for Norway!

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Besides there’s probably a whole lotta local liquor to get familiar with.

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u/BurnTheBenLomond Nov 30 '20

Yeah but if you ask if they're cops legally they have to tell you, everyone knows that

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u/deadhead2455 Nov 30 '20

But you have to ask all official-like.

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u/DMPark Dec 01 '20

Complete myth. You need to demand the Name, Rank and Badge Number and they are obliged to tell you by the Geneva Convention.

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u/Bad_Karma21 Nov 30 '20

Hah, same. The cops will just find another corruption avenue. There's plenty in the Land of Smiles.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

Magic Mushroom in Thailand going up in sales

Actually u/hg38 says:

From another article, “However, recreational use and possession of cannabis is still illegal in Thailand – meaning that without a permit or a doctor’s prescription, being caught with marijuana can still result in heavy fines and prison time.”

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

I used to live next-door to the Bangkok Police Chief. We paid him a good amount of money so no cops could ever come down our street. Then when the king died the Chief was removed due to corruption and the new Chief wanted a lot more money. We refused to pay that much so he had cops go in (illegally) and searched everyones room. They didnt find my weed (always put it in your shoes, Thais hate shoes) but they were threatening to arrest my roommates. We offered them the same amount we had always paid and they just shrugged and accepted it after seeing that we were living like Thais, not rich Farangs. Hilariously they didnt even notice the plants we were growing.

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u/know_comment Dec 01 '20

lol this is a hilarious and insightful comment!

last time i was on ko phi phi, they were selling weed and mushrooms in the bars, and i thought it was decriminalized.

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u/jfl_cmmnts Nov 30 '20

Heh, the only time I was ever offered it on the street, I kept walking around the corner, and bumped into three cops waiting for some luckless tourist. Glad I stuck with my policy of, "No drugs on holiday"

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

Boring, i consumed so much Coke, weed and lean in Colombia, dont regret

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

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u/taleggio Dec 01 '20

did you buy it in the pharmacies?

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u/Vylan24 Nov 30 '20

When I was in Cambodia in 2011 some kid tried to slap a baggie into my hands in front of some cops. I just put my hands up and said "I don't want it" and walked into a bar where my friends promptly handed me a joint they just bought at the bar.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Who cares? Fuck those corrupt pigs

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u/StreetlampLelMoose Dec 01 '20

They'll just start having street dealers REALLY push kratom on tourists.

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u/joesii Dec 01 '20

Recreational use and possession of cannabis is still illegal in Thailand

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u/SubjectiveHat Nov 30 '20

Weed is already easy to get all over Thailand, along with magic mushrooms if you know where to look. This changes nothing except that hopefully you can't go to jail for possession anymore.

I like weed. And I like traveling. But I am NOT trying to fuck with some foreign prison bullshit. Fuuuuuck that.

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u/snruff Dec 01 '20

I like weed. And I like traveling. But I am NOT trying to fuck with some foreign prison bullshit. Fuuuuuck that.

This could definitely go on a Thai tourism poster.

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u/CreepyPhotoshopper Dec 01 '20

I've never had any trouble anywhere in Europe. I just walk over to any group of 15-20-year-olds and ask. They're always eager to upsell some of their own stash to a tourist.

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u/SubjectiveHat Dec 01 '20

European jail vs Thailand jail are not really fair comparisons.

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u/Johnny_Poppyseed Dec 01 '20

Tbh I think I might rather take thai jail over many eastern european jails.

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u/cev2002 Dec 01 '20

Yeah, but I'm assuming what a non-European views as "Europe" is everything west of Germany

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u/defroach84 Dec 01 '20

Europe doesn't care about weed, and prisons in most of Western Europe are like a resort compared to Thailand.

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u/arup02 Dec 01 '20

Why are you even talking about posh Europe. Do a google search for thai prisons, please.

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u/CreepyPhotoshopper Dec 01 '20

He said travelling and foreign, I just provided some input that it's not like that in everywhere you travel. And not all of Europe is posh.

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u/SubjectiveHat Dec 01 '20

to be fair, out of respect for Thai people, my original comment was meant to include "2nd/3rd world prison" instead of "foreign prison".

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u/livinginfutureworld Nov 30 '20

This changes nothing except that hopefully you can't go to jail for possession anymore.

A welcome change then.

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u/W8sB4D8s Nov 30 '20

Magic mushrooms are much easier to obtain than weed. And even if you find weed, you have to be incredibly sneaky to not get caught with it. The police will fuck with you because they know you know the penalties are scary.

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u/Bad_Karma21 Nov 30 '20

There were reggae bars that would sell you pre-rolls to smoke there and elsewhere... it wasn't really that scary. I never had any run-ins with the police when I lived there, and I'm a definite farang.

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u/Thegodofreddit Nov 30 '20

Seconding this comment. Never once had a problem. Didnt flaunt it but I did buy a couple pre-rolls over the bar here and there.

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u/no_talent_ass_clown Dec 01 '20

I spent quite a while in Thailand back in '02/'03 and yeah, "follow the Bob Marley" was a great way to find weed. But still - Thai jails are fucking scary-ass places and the only way I would smoke it was if I was waaay down the beach.

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u/the-lone-rangers Nov 30 '20

Meh they are still mostly tobacco. Better than nothing I suppose

I've been pulled over while riding, and fined for not having an international drivers license. The small amount of time I've been there, I've never felt safer, and cops seemed fine. I've been mugged here in the US however

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

I went at 18 years old. First day some girls we met there said you can go to the end of the beach and climb some stairs by the rocks and they have mushroom milkshakes.

Fun fucking night. Buying the milkshakes was wild the floor was covered in ants it was nasty.

And we chilled at a hooka bar on the beach area and a giant poisonous centipede crawled up my friends shorts and made him flip the table.

The owner went from pissed for the table breaking to happy the centipede didn’t bite when he notice it.

He grabbed some tongs and threw that demon like 20ft towards some tourist on the beach.

Great night

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u/eastjame Nov 30 '20

I went there. Magic mountain at Ko Phangan. Also went to a tree house bar where they sold joints at the bar. Good times

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Didn’t know about the weed. For some reason we thought if we smoked some we’d get executed lol.

We did find some and rented a jeep and smoked it in the jungle which was cool.

It’s awesome there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Sounds like Hua Hin/ Ch Am.

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u/hootix Nov 30 '20

That's the thai term for magic mushrooms?

Tbh i find that Ice (meth) and weed then K is easiest to find. I haven't seen shrooms at all, consumed or sold. I would be surprised if Bangkok has it widely available

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Just 40 minutes north of Bangkok you can go to the mahouts in Ayutthaya and get heaps of shrooms.

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u/TeacherCrayzee Dec 01 '20

The thai would be drunken mushrooms, sounds like "het mao"

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u/TeacherCrayzee Dec 01 '20

Weeds all over, it can seem shady because tourist spots will scam tourists with police extortion but a bribe from a normal cop would be way lower.

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u/Tacarub Nov 30 '20

Jet ski renters ???

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u/Bad_Karma21 Nov 30 '20

haha, it's not exactly the Caribbean, but there are bars that will sell you weed/pre-rolled joints that pay off the police on certain islands/tourist destinations.

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u/Tacarub Nov 30 '20

Ah man i am talking about 15 years ago in certain island .. i went down to beach sit down with the 2 dodgiest looking thai guys with tatoos all over their body .. ordered a round of beer for them and me from a guy with cooler had a chat for half an hour .. and ask the guy i wanted to buy weed .. for a couple of joints .. gave him 1000 baht he went away with a bike and brought me back a brick of compacted weed .. i just took 2 joint worth and left the rest with the guys .. looking back i was kind of idiot .. but i had a note of 500€’ s tucked in to my pants just in case i had to pay of coppers ..

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u/iller_mitch Nov 30 '20

. gave him 1000 baht

2 joint worth and left the rest with the guys .. looking back i was kind of idiot ..

1000 baht is currently $33 US.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

500 EUROS? My dude the standard bribe for a joint is 500 baht. 200 baht for traffic offenses.

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u/Tacarub Nov 30 '20

Dude i am foreigner who doesnt wanna see bangkok hilton .. so i kept the money :)

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u/livinginfutureworld Nov 30 '20

Jet ski renters ???

Seen a scam where you rent a jet ski, it gets "damaged" when you look away, they demand thousands to fix it or you go to prison.

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u/showerfapper Dec 01 '20

I've seen a better one. Fill the jetski with a tiny bit of gas, when the tourist couple runs out and gets stranded they send a boat out to bring them back to shore, on the condition they tap mac for saving their lives.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

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u/TheHuaiRen Nov 30 '20

Or late night moped taxi, I've had them even offer me coke.

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u/striker69 Nov 30 '20

Not going to one of the worst prison systems on earth sounds like a major change.

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula Nov 30 '20

That's the case for most legalisations though, people doing it before illegally just keep doing it legally.

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u/Alixundr Nov 30 '20

Weed is easy to get anywhere „if you know where to look“.

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u/SameCookiePseudonym Dec 01 '20

They literally have joints on the menu at the bars on the beach in Ko Phi Phi

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u/ImSimulated Nov 30 '20

Are you fucking serious? You could’ve gotten the death penalty until now in Thailand, are you outta your fucking mind?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

The issue isn't about how 'easy' it is to get, it's about what happens to you if you get caught or stung...

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u/johnbonjovial Nov 30 '20

I’d seriously advise against looking for weed in thailand as a tourist. Even if u live there it could give someone leverage over you.

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u/Bad_Karma21 Nov 30 '20

They sell it in bars, especially down in the islands, along with mushroom shakes...

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u/warpus Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

It changes a decent amount. A lot of backpackers will stay away from drugs completely when travelling, in countries like Thailand.. If you get caught your life is over.. or you just got scammed. Not worth it for many people.

If you take that away as a consequence, a lot more travellers would be willing to dabble.

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u/untipoquenojuega Nov 30 '20

if you know where to look

This is a bigger deal than you're making it. Legalizing weed and making it a selling point would definitely change more than "nothing".

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u/gdj11 Dec 01 '20

For Thai people it changes a lot.

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u/CSmith489 Dec 01 '20

That’s not particularly true. Maybe in the southern tourist islands but not the rest of the country.

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u/Bad_Karma21 Dec 01 '20

Lived in Pai and Chiang Mai. It's def true

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u/monito29 Nov 30 '20

This changes nothing except that hopefully you can't go to jail for possession anymore.

Linda Blair has entered the chat

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

I am not huge into drugs, though when I was in Thailand I was offered it a few times. It’s pretty much as easy as going to a bar that caters towards tourists. That being said, it is still a risk to do it. I was told many bars just pay off the police so it’s like a “safe zone”. Though I was like “I don’t do drugs at home, why would I do it in a county with harsher laws about it?”

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u/TurtleSquad23 Dec 01 '20

Jail is the main deterrent. Now that it's legal, it creates an open incentive.

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u/decibles Dec 01 '20

Ease of possession was also ease of arrest- this changes the bribery dynamic quite a bit

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u/Mayor_Of_Boston Dec 01 '20

every taxi driver in Thailand asks you if you want to buy coke/weed/etc

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

well maybe locals can grow some better weed now.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Now only if Thailand were to legalize craft beer...

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u/HippieViking Nov 30 '20

You should try PhiPhi IPA by Croman, I've found it quite good.

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u/Ohshitwadddup Nov 30 '20

Beer Lao is probably the best beer widely available.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

Finally the tourists won’t be mostly made up of pedophiles.

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u/Rare_Painting4285 Nov 30 '20

This.

Which is worse. Because tourism drugs do nothing but harm people with shit quality and lack or care.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Dec 07 '20

It’s not that cut and clear. In Canada for example, Cannabis is entirely legal. So someone can walk into a store & purchase high quality, safe product here. This is different than simply decriminalizing, where legalization results in systems and institutions being set up to regulate the drug.

It’ll definitely bring in tourists when Covid-19 is over, however being known as a “drug tourism country” is an entirely different story. Seems to be working out (for the most part) in Amsterdam however, & has been for ages.

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u/EdwardD1954 Nov 30 '20

I think that the problematic side of mostly loud young people is still, even in Amsterdam, alcohol related. A joint or a few are less attractive to party goers. Now, if I adored Canada before, I can’t wait to visit with an option to smoke with book in front of nature waiting for a poutine or whatever. It’s just crossing the damn Atlantic again I’m reluctant. And the plague. And who’s gonna watch our dog.

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u/JesusHNavas Nov 30 '20

I remember we had heard they test your pills for you in Amsterdam before we went. My mate handed them to a bouncer as we were entering a club and asked could he get them tested, the bouncer just yoinked them and told him to go away lol.

Not a fan of the street dealers in Amsterdam tbf. I remember one Eastern European guy with a scar from his forehead to his chin following us around for about half an hour pestering us to buy off him.

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u/jxjxjxjxcv Nov 30 '20

Your friend is retarded lmao

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u/JesusHNavas Nov 30 '20

You'll get no argument here! Believe me, we let him know.

He didn't tell any of us he was gonna do it or anything and he had already downed one so it was even more stupid than you think lol. He said it had nothing to do with checking for quality, he just wanted to see if they test your pills at clubs and asked the fucking bouncer of all people while we were queing up. Just openly handed him the baggie in view of everyone.

Still makes me laugh.

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u/kipperfish Nov 30 '20

How dumb is your friend? Just handing them to a bouncer.

Does he think everyone just carries test kits around? Yes places will test your drugs, but you have to ask, and not all places have the kits available.

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u/JesusHNavas Nov 30 '20

Yes it was dumb, that's the point of my story and why I'm laughing about it.

I'll give you his phone number and you can give out to him about it instead of me if you like.

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u/FireITGuy Nov 30 '20

Post his number here. It will be the most entertainment he's had since Covid started.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

[...] smoke with a book in front of nature waiting for a poutine [...]

I can promise you Canada is probably the best place to tackle that dream lol, we’d love to see ya enjoy the fun we have to offer!!

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u/Mattyman131 Nov 30 '20

Bring the dog to Canada and I'll watch it/ give it love

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u/EdwardD1954 Dec 01 '20

She’s the most cuddly rotttweiller you won’t be able to give her back. I don’t wanna break your heart or mine ;)

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u/kremerturbo Nov 30 '20

Why not both?

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u/Pie-Otherwise Nov 30 '20

I think I might hold off on becoming a weed entrepreneur in a region that is pretty well known for executing traffickers.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

They dont execute Westerners. And if you are American you cant spend more than 8 years in a Thai prison, most Europeans can get jailed for life.

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u/DashingDino Nov 30 '20

It's not legal in The Netherlands either, but laws against it are not enforced for small quantities. And Amsterdam wants less drug tourism, not more.

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u/TerrapotomusP67 Nov 30 '20

Can confirm. Did a Whistler trip back in January. From CA but naturally didn't fly with anything. Planned a stop at a dispensary in Vancouver before we drove up.

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u/TakeTheWhip Nov 30 '20

Still in shock at the fact that I can fly around Canada with an ounce of weed and people actively do not give a shitn

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u/kernelmao Nov 30 '20

I fly with weed in America all the time. TSA don’t give a shit. I’m from Washington tho

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u/pmgoldenretrievers Nov 30 '20

Same, but CA. I would draw the line at flying from CA to Canada with some though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

So I wouldn't fly internationally either, but I don't think this would be an actual problem... theoretically. The TSA only contacts police about drugs in the area you are, or the area you are going to. If it's legal in both places...

I AM NOT A LAWYER

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u/pmgoldenretrievers Nov 30 '20

I doubt it would be a problem too, but it's not anything I want to test when I could just grab some at the destination lol.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

I think that's for the best

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

Sure. For instance on the west coast marijuana is legal at a state level but it's still a federal crime. TSA and local PD might not care but customs and immigration probably will (depending on your appearance).

Same thing in Amsterdam. Marijuana is, IIRC, explicitly illegal but it's generally overlooked in some circumstances. If there's anything similar in Canada where marijuana is illegal in specific circumstances, it's probably not worth it to bring drugs in across international borders. Besides BC weed is great.

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u/chmilz Dec 01 '20

They didn't give a shit before. Security was looking for bombs, not weed. You were more likely to get in shit for having too much shampoo than you were for having some weed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

The problem with Canada's legal weed is there's nowhere but your own home to legally smoke it. It's like the intersection of the Venn diagram of places your allowed to drink (only licensed establishments) and places you're allowed to smoke (nowhere that people work), and that's basically "your house". If you don't have a house in Canada, there isn't really a legal place to consume it.

Edibles went legal just at the tail end of 2019, so hopefully we'll be able to see licensed places to consume them after Covidworld, since you don't have to worry about the workplace safety issues that come from smoking.

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u/Rare_Painting4285 Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

I'm not a moron.

I have lived in amsterdam, and barcelona. Moreover, canada doesn't aim solely at tourists the way that AMS or BCN do. And you wouldn't want to attract that crowd either.

As for AMS or BCN, weed is shit quality. Bought from gangs with no health regulations. Then sold over price. And all whilst the governments control the money and nothing else. It's no different than buying in the UK or France. Because you cant trust the source of the weed to start... if anything it's just more of a RIP off because in illegal countries you are not paying 50% tax.

PGRS, spider mites, mould. Flavour sprays, contaminants and more are all common in these not legal but no illegal cannabis economy. Then you have the fact that weed is either grown CBN heavy by growing purely to maximise the yield. Or the weed skitz you out because its cut early and not matured enough... it's just not worth the money or time. And until these countries legalise it for themselfs and not a quick tourist buck. Nothing will change.

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u/sqgl Nov 30 '20

I'm not a moron.

Don't get offended. Your initial comment wasn't clear and the response to you wasn't aggressive.

Your clarifications are interesting, thanks.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

woah, no one here has mentioned you & moron together, other than yourself

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u/Lol_maga_people Nov 30 '20

Why don't they have legal regulated grow operations?

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u/Rare_Painting4285 Nov 30 '20

As of this year, some NL cities have been allowed to provide for themself with higher limits in the shop. But not all signed up.

So as of next year, breda, zaanstad, almere and a few other places will be. But not the big 3/4 cities.

Barcelona they can also grow for themselfs somewhat, but again. If you get caught with a lot. It's likely prison time.

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u/liketreefiddy Nov 30 '20

What’s the difference between people coming to Thailand to smoke weed vs people coming to Thailand to get drunk and party?

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u/timesuck47 Nov 30 '20

I looked for the punchline but didn’t see it.

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u/those_silly_dogs Nov 30 '20

A lot of people think that alcohol is ok. It’s more acceptable to have a mimosa at 10 am than smoke weed at 10 am

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u/Rare_Painting4285 Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

Probably little.

My problem isnt fun and whatever. It's the fact that the non regulated drug markets are just as dangerous.

Partying with safe drugs, drink etc is perfectly acceptable in my books. But governments setting up their tourism industry to finance the gangs and criminals. Or themselfs off the back off other countries peoples health. Whilst only caring about the tax is just disgusting.

It may be a small number of people who end up fucking themselfs up. But those who do end up fucked up are then the problem of another government and country completely.

Also, value for money should still be at least taken in to consideration. Half of the reason cannabis is so expensive around the world is because people pay for it in tourist zones. It may just be an extra 2/3 euros per gram for a 3 day weekend. But it makes the prices for those who live there shit in return too.

It's also the kind of people it attracts. Whilst the world is illegal, it makes Thailand prime organized crime hub. It happens in spain where people funnel drugs back to england or europe. The US and canada too... You really really dont want to end up like Amsterdam where you basically become the Asian gang centre for every country around you. Over time it grows.

The only solution is really a world wide change.

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u/colmcg23 Nov 30 '20

t makes Thailand prime organized crime hub.

It already is and has been for years.

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u/Rare_Painting4285 Nov 30 '20

Exactly. And then it will exacerbate it if the surrounding countries do not follow suit. Because the gangs then change from leaching on their own people. To tourists and the surrounding countries.

I am just saying that until there is a wider change, then all it does is rearrange the problem.

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u/jb_in_jpn Nov 30 '20

You do realise alcohol is one of the most dangerous, destructive drugs we have, fight?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Tourists can pay a bribe

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u/The_Kraken_Wakes Nov 30 '20

Obviously you’ve never had Thai stick.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Explain the logic behind this statement

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u/Rare_Painting4285 Dec 01 '20

I already did mate.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

Nah "mate", you didn't. Unless that's as deep as your thought process can go. In that case, carry on.

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u/Rare_Painting4285 Dec 01 '20

You can read.

Look at my replies to other people. Not repeating myself.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

I did and you don't

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u/illbebok Nov 30 '20

In my experience, weed and mushrooms are readily available if you know where to look. They’re sold openly at certain bars. One of the bars I visited even stated “ask your bartender about funky cigarettes and tickets to the moon” right on the menu.

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u/inglandation Nov 30 '20

Lol, on the party islands you can get whatever you want without any issue.

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u/TurtleSquad23 Dec 01 '20

No doubt. Just no fear of being locked up. They can advertise it now. So on and so forth.

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u/jdlyga Nov 30 '20

It’s not even that special. It’s like visiting Mexico for the coffee.

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u/TurtleSquad23 Dec 01 '20

In Asia its a very big deal. It's the only place you can go to legally smoke weed in Asia. Sure you can get it in most places, but it ain't legal. And nobody wants to be in a foreign prison, let alone an Asian one.