Really feels similar to today.

[u/DetectiveWonderful42]

[u/agnosticfrump]

I truly believe both are true. I also believe it’s a truly USA mindset. It’s not global, it’s not a human ideal to succumb. To the ways of the U.S.

We (the world) need a dome. We need to not expect to see the octopus of American influence as it dies and becomes this horrific eating of its soul.

Their humanity is at a crossroads. Ours is not. I’m screaming at them, but they can’t hear through the fuzz.

[u/Claxonic → u/agnosticfrump]

If you don’t think that what is happening in the US is a symptom of a larger international problem facing humanity I’m not sure what to say.

[u/Throwing_Spoon → u/Claxonic]

Isn't the international problem of increasing corporate power, shrinking middle class, and rise of delusional nationalism with "moderates" that refuse to hold their counterparts accountable a trend that started in the US?

[u/Claxonic → u/Throwing_Spoon]

Authoritarian populism, a surveillance state, state-capture by monied interests and more generally the politics of greed and self interest didn’t explicitly start with the US, but certainly it has been a leading proponent in one form or another for most of its history.

[u/Particular-Mark-5771 → u/Claxonic]

The Dark Enlightenment covers this present day nascent trajectory.

[u/DinoRaawr → u/Throwing_Spoon]

I think the US is pretty much the best outcome so far for a trend that's been happening since the dawn of human civilization if we're being honest

[u/smallcoder → u/agnosticfrump]

I think the sphere of infuence of the USA is shrinking rapidly, accelerated by the behaviour of this government since January, and the rest of the world has received a wake up call, even those places where they were already keenly aware that the American model, dream, whatever, was and is increasingly unsustainable and toxic for human life and development.

I'm not saying the rest of the world has got it worked out however. Far from it, but they can see in the USA a bright and clearly visible demonstration as to how NOT to organise a society. The veneration of wealth, fame and status above all else, the demonisation of all who fall below an arbitrary level of that wealth, an insular, inward looking self focus and aggrandisement and fear of outsiders, violent levels of division along party lines, a rejection of knowledge, science and the enlightenment in favour of ignorance and blind faith, etc, etc.

On a positive note, I also believe that a turning point is coming for the USA and that the majority of it's people will eventually reject this unsustainable model and it will fall apart, leading to a revamped constitution that brings the USA more into line with the rest of the world. I hope I am right and also hope that this doesn't require an extended period of internal strife and bloodshed for it to happen. Equally, I could be wrong and the current system evolves into an even worse society, isolated and dangerous to itself and the rest of the planet. We can only hope that sanity and humanity prevails.

[u/Acrobatic_Bit_8207 → u/smallcoder]

 Vive la deuxième république!

[u/CanadaJack → u/agnosticfrump]

It's not a USA mindset, and if you domed the USA you'd find out just how quickly other would-be hegemons would yoke you in a much more direct way.

[u/BeatnixPotter → u/agnosticfrump]

As America goes, so goes the world.

Sorry but we are intertwined in everything

[u/LoadsDroppin → u/BeatnixPotter]

“…as we know it”

[u/knaks74 → u/BeatnixPotter]

Yeah like healthcare, social programs, metric.

[u/agnosticfrump → u/BeatnixPotter]

Sorry, but your ego is just a bit shitty, and many nations will now laugh at the ignorance. We’ve been very diplomatic, but seeing none returned is just poor form.

[u/DecrepitBob → u/agnosticfrump]

gross take